Really great RB usage today

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Re: Really great RB usage today

Post by Scunge » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:13 am

We will have to agree to disagree W&M.

If Bell would have had so much success with Mendy's O-line back in the day, if he would have been able to play so much better with that crappy line, then how come Bell can't play equally as well with the NY Jets crappy O-line????

The answer, he can't. What Bell has done with the JETs with a horrible O-line is what he would have done with Mendy's O-line. That patient bullshit running style of his needs a decent O-line that can hold blocks longer.



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Post by W&M_Steeler » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:35 am

Scunge wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:13 am
We will have to agree to disagree W&M.

If Bell would have had so much success with Mendy's O-line back in the day, if he would have been able to play so much better with that crappy line, then how come Bell can't play equally as well with the NY Jets crappy O-line????

The answer, he can't. What Bell has done with the JETs with a horrible O-line is what he would have done with Mendy's O-line. That patient bullshit running style of his needs a decent O-line that can hold blocks longer.

I'd put that on Bell taking a year off at the tail end of his prime to eat, drink, smoke, and screw strippers, then trying to come back and play for a team that has essentially nothing else going for it on offense. Bell let himself go and lost whatever edge he had left (physically and mentally IMO). 2019 Bell was barely a shadow of what he used to be, but he was expected to be the spark plug for an inept offense led by horrible coaching. A recipe for disaster. Prime Bell, or even 2017 Bell, had much more going for him, and he would have been playing in a far less inept offense in 2008-2012 with a HOF QB and good / great WRs to take some of the attention and pressure off him. I also think that 2014 or 2017 Bell wouldn't look so pathetic behind the Jets line, either.

EDIT: Bell training during football season 2018: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vU7gXS8D9s

https://www.tmz.com/2018/07/31/leveon-b ... s-holdout/

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Post by stillthere » Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:15 am




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Post by COR-TEN » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:13 pm

Frankly, if the O line is outstanding, anybody can succeed.

Bell's style caught defenses off guard, but once they learned, his effectiveness was reduced, vision or athletic ability/ speed aside. But vision for sure is something that can make up for his lack of speed and explosiveness behind an average to poor O line.

Bottom line I think everyone wants a back with some degree of "vision." Some place more emphasis on speed and athleticism, others vision. From what I've seen, Sanquon Barkley - prior to injury - has both, imo. I'd love for him to be a steeler, but he's a franchise back. No way in hell he'd take a pay cut to play for the steelers.
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Post by Pabst » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:35 pm

COR-TEN wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:13 pm
Frankly, if the O line is outstanding, anybody can succeed.
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Post by COR-TEN » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:43 pm

Pabst wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:35 pm
COR-TEN wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:13 pm
Frankly, if the O line is outstanding, anybody can succeed.
Trent Richardson says hello :D
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