1.21 OT Max Iheanachor, AZ State

[bradshaw2ben]

Iheanachor was rock solid vs the best competition he faced during the season and he was pretty much the OL star of senior bowl.

Fautanu and Max are going to be good wherever they play. I think you give Cook the first shot at LT, faitanu can play anywhere.

[Mick]

Like if you are the cowboys, and you know the arch enemy iggles are screwed if they don’t get a receiver, and you know the steelers are about to take the last Rd 1 WR left…and you throw the eagles a lifeline?

Usually i hope guys we don’t draft go bust, but here i’m rooting for Makai “stevie wonder” Lemon to blow up the nfc east for the next decade.

Iheanachor is fine btw, never going to get an OT like that in Round 2 so fair to go round 1.

[Charles Demarr]

I don't hate the pick, don't love it either. Tackle was a clear need.

But once again, the WR room will be a problem. I ruled Lemon out after his weird interview at the combine so I'm fine with that headcase going elsewhere. I wanted Omar Cooper at 21.

By the time they pick tonight, they'll be extremely lucky if a guy like Germie Bernard is still on the board. I don't want bubble screen Branch. Skylar Bell doesn't move the needle for me. Chris Bell? I could live with that. Antonio Williams would be cool I guess.

None of the guards (Bisontis or Pregnon) are going to make it to them. Gennings Dunker? Not a huge fan myself.

My worst nightmare is Carson Beck in round 2.

All the ammunition this year in front of the home crowd and that was the best he could do? Underwhelming if you ask me. The Khan artist my ass.

[steelclan]

Ton of folks rushing to judgment on Iheanachor. Before you settle into an opinion go watch him at Senior bowl and look at a few games.

In pass pro this Lad is almost there already. He has the best feet of all the olineman available. His first step to get into his pass sets is as fast as I've seen in years. Only tackle I'd comp it to is Trent Williams. Of course, he is nowhere near Williams as a player and has work to do.

But that work is not something that isn't fixable. Most OTs with few exceptions coming into the NFL struggle with hand placement. This Lad is too wide and late with his punch. Mike Vrabel pulled him aside and was working with him on it at the Senior Bowl. It should be something decent coaching can fix.

He also falls offs blocks too often, especially in the run game. That is also fixable.

Yet even now he is likely the best pass pro OT in this draft.

Yes, I like Lemon but people are acting like he was a silver bullet to offensive woes. He wasn't. I'd rather have Bernard in the 2nd, not as flashy but Bama's best player last season. He carried that offense with a scattershot QB in 2nd half of season. If he goes, Stribling in 3rd would be a good pick. Lad tore it up in CFB playoffs.

[steelclan]

Iheanachor was rock solid vs the best competition he faced during the season and he was pretty much the OL star of senior bowl.

Fautanu and Max are going to be good wherever they play. I think you give Cook the first shot at LT, faitanu can play anywhere.

Yep, that includes pretty much stoning Texas Tech's excellent pass rush (Bailey & Height).

[alancac98]

OR ....

They might have the semblance of an actual plan in place to make the OL into a strength again.....Ya could even call it a foundation boys and girls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTNfWqKgcQI


Cook / Fautanu / Frazier / Jack Rabbit / Nigerian Nightmare 2.0 looks to my happy ass like it has some actual teeth to cut up some fronts.

No way should they move Fautanu to LG. He should be their starting LT. He was drafted in the 1st round as a LT. Cook was an undrafted Free agent. I'll put my #1 draft pick at that premier spot of an undrafted guy. Don't get me wrong, Cook didn't play bad. For me, I move Fauntanu to LT, Jones (if he's back) to LG, Frazier at C, McCormick at RG , and the Nigerian Nightmare to RT. That has the making of a very good line.

[steelclan]

Did I hear the Steelers were on the phone with Lemon when the Eagles traded up?

Did y’all see Laura Rutledge try to interview that kid?

Lights are on (barely) but nobody’s home.

Eagles did the Steelers a HUGE favor

Dodged a MAJOR bullet

Do believe there was a rumor his interviews at the combine did not go well.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Did I hear the Steelers were on the phone with Lemon when the Eagles traded up?

Did y’all see Laura Rutledge try to interview that kid?

Lights are on (barely) but nobody’s home.

Eagles did the Steelers a HUGE favor

Dodged a MAJOR bullet

Do believe there was a rumor his interviews at the combine did not go well.

Which begs question…why were they on phone with him
Guy looks to be a major major problem

[steelclan]

Did I hear the Steelers were on the phone with Lemon when the Eagles traded up?

What a disaster..you re on the phone with Lemon..and Howie jumps you to steal your guy...massive FAIL

Exactly. Then, panicked, scrambled, call it whatever. Going from sprinting to the podium to taking 7mins 15 seconds for you to put the pick in looks bad.

Not buying this at all. The draft was in Pittsburgh, I hardly think even if Lemon was on the board they would've sprinted to the podium. The set up and renegade et al strongly suggests otherwise.

Plus, although slightly different players there is minimal separation talent wise between Cooper and Lemon. I realize Steelers can be at times maddening but I doubt they were so clueless as not to know that. If they select Cooper, I doubt we're getting folks tossing wobblers over this.

Also, if you asked me pre-draft if I had to start one of Proctor, Monroe Freeling or Iheanachor? I'd go with Iheanachor all day. His pass pro is far better right now than Proctor or Freeling.

[steelclan]

Did y’all see Laura Rutledge try to interview that kid?

Lights are on (barely) but nobody’s home.

Eagles did the Steelers a HUGE favor

Dodged a MAJOR bullet

Do believe there was a rumor his interviews at the combine did not go well.

Which begs question…why were they on phone with him
Guy looks to be a major major problem

Now that is a good question and concerning.

[Stosh-67]

Like if you are the cowboys, and you know the arch enemy iggles are screwed if they don’t get a receiver, and you know the steelers are about to take the last Rd 1 WR left…and you throw the eagles a lifeline?

Usually i hope guys we don’t draft go bust, but here i’m rooting for Makai “stevie wonder” Lemon to blow up the nfc east for the next decade.

Iheanachor is fine btw, never going to get an OT like that in Round 2 so fair to go round 1.

Or Mick.....
They see what others see in Lemon and said.....
Hell yeah....lets send this time bomb into Philly........move back three spots and pick up two 4th round picks.

I'll have to find it, a clip of him at the combine, the WR instructer facing the WR group giving instructions on the next event, and Lemon is behind the coach pacing and not even paying attention.

[steelclan]

Maybe, Cowboys should know given who they just franchised tagged.

However, the Steelers should've known this as well and if they did ...overlooking it given what this franchise has been through with WRs is not great.

[steelmann58]

Max will be at RT and shift Troy to left tackle and hope it works

[bradshaw2ben]

OR ....

They might have the semblance of an actual plan in place to make the OL into a strength again.....Ya could even call it a foundation boys and girls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTNfWqKgcQI


Cook / Fautanu / Frazier / Jack Rabbit / Nigerian Nightmare 2.0 looks to my happy ass like it has some actual teeth to cut up some fronts.

No way should they move Fautanu to LG. He should be their starting LT. He was drafted in the 1st round as a LT. Cook was an undrafted Free agent. I'll put my #1 draft pick at that premier spot of an undrafted guy. Don't get me wrong, Cook didn't play bad. For me, I move Fauntanu to LT, Jones (if he's back) to LG, Frazier at C, McCormick at RG , and the Nigerian Nightmare to RT. That has the making of a very good line.

I hate hate hate drafting based on a guys high school recruiting profile and I hate hate hate caring about where someone was drafted—plus the best guy no matter if they’d were picked in round or are UDFA. Everyone gets the opportunity, play the best 5z

[Mick]

Like if you are the cowboys, and you know the arch enemy iggles are screwed if they don’t get a receiver, and you know the steelers are about to take the last Rd 1 WR left…and you throw the eagles a lifeline?

Usually i hope guys we don’t draft go bust, but here i’m rooting for Makai “stevie wonder” Lemon to blow up the nfc east for the next decade.

Iheanachor is fine btw, never going to get an OT like that in Round 2 so fair to go round 1.

Or Mick.....
They see what others see in Lemon and said.....
Hell yeah....lets send this time bomb into Philly........move back three spots and pick up two 4th round picks.

I'll have to find it, a clip of him at the combine, the WR instructer facing the WR group giving instructions on the next event, and Lemon is behind the coach pacing and not even paying attention.

Lemon seems like an obvious nutjob/problem. But…that would put him somewhere around the median among top tier NFL WRs. Need to decide if we want to have an offense with actual weapons, or more “high character guys” than points.

[Stosh-67]

Ton of folks rushing to judgment on Iheanachor. Before you settle into an opinion go watch him at Senior bowl and look at a few games.

In pass pro this Lad is almost there already. He has the best feet of all the olineman available. His first step to get into his pass sets is as fast as I've seen in years. Only tackle I'd comp it to is Trent Williams. Of course, he is nowhere near Williams as a player and has work to do.

But that work is not something that isn't fixable. Most OTs with few exceptions coming into the NFL struggle with hand placement. This Lad is too wide and late with his punch. Mike Vrabel pulled him aside and was working with him on it at the Senior Bowl. It should be something decent coaching can fix.

He also falls offs blocks too often, especially in the run game. That is also fixable.

Yet even now he is likely the best pass pro OT in this draft.

Yes, I like Lemon but people are acting like he was a silver bullet to offensive woes. He wasn't. I'd rather have Bernard in the 2nd, not as flashy but Bama's best player last season. He carried that offense with a scattershot QB in 2nd half of season. If he goes, Stribling in 3rd would be a good pick. Lad tore it up in CFB playoffs.

Encouraged by what I hear from our guys who have watched tape on this kid........Clan, B2B and others, and have a high outlook.
I know alot wanted an OG and if Vega was there or we moved up to grab him......would have been a HR.

But OT, I felt was a bigger need with Dylan Cook not getting into his first NFL game until age 27 and having only 5 NFL games under his belt, 4 starts, the book is still out on him at 28, now I have promiss for him and he has low miles and could be that late bloomer.

Throw in the uncertainty of Broderick on top of his subpar play............
We have one starting caliber OT in Fautano....that we can count on being a top tier guy

We want a shot at that 2nd tier of WRs that will go before 2-53..........trade up with some of the remaining 11 picks.
Are Germie Bernard and Antonio Williams going between 35 and 50? Sarrat and Stribling gonna be avaiable at 53?

Or trade up and continue to add to the trenches and get that impact NT that may be gone before 53 as well.
How would Kayden McDonald look at NT with Cam, Harmon and Benton...and Yahya.

[Stlcrtn1974]

Like if you are the cowboys, and you know the arch enemy iggles are screwed if they don’t get a receiver, and you know the steelers are about to take the last Rd 1 WR left…and you throw the eagles a lifeline?

Usually i hope guys we don’t draft go bust, but here i’m rooting for Makai “stevie wonder” Lemon to blow up the nfc east for the next decade.

Iheanachor is fine btw, never going to get an OT like that in Round 2 so fair to go round 1.

Or Mick.....
They see what others see in Lemon and said.....
Hell yeah....lets send this time bomb into Philly........move back three spots and pick up two 4th round picks.

I'll have to find it, a clip of him at the combine, the WR instructer facing the WR group giving instructions on the next event, and Lemon is behind the coach pacing and not even paying attention.

Lemon seems like an obvious nutjob/problem. But…that would put him somewhere around the median among top tier NFL WRs. Need to decide if we want to have an offense with actual weapons, or more “high character guys” than points.

This is a Fuck you from Jones to McCarthy, nothing more.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Do believe there was a rumor his interviews at the combine did not go well.

Which begs question…why were they on phone with him
Guy looks to be a major major problem

Now that is a good question and concerning.

Let’s not discount that this info came from serial liar Crapreport

[Steeldrama]

Fantastic save by Weidl/Khan

Sure THEY look quite amateurish all on the phone with Lemon allowing Howie and the Eagles to SWOOP in and snipe their guy, but that was divine draft intervention.

THANK YOU, HOWIE!

And thank you OMAR for being asleep at the wheel in front 300,000 drunk yinzers (most of whom could name like 3 draft prospects).

This pick is going to prove to be a HOME RUN.

Not because I'm any kind of aMax lheanachor expert, but because he will not be coached by Tomlin, Uncle Artie, AND PAT FUCKING MEYER!

New Day

HOPEFULLY new results.

What now?

Obviously dumbass K-H-A-N (He's not a hot dog) tipped his hand being on the phone with a wide receiver.

Fortunately he has FOUR....that's 4.....Friday night picks to acquire a quality Wide Receiver.

PLENTY of flavors left on the board (I'd be happy with several including Ted Hurst, Chris Brazzell, Germie, or either Bell).

Are there PLENTY of Offensive Tackles left on the board?

HELL NO

Supply and demand

The draft is going FINE

Max is a GREAT pick

Howie saved Omar from himself

Don't let the ham and eggers on the Internet form your opinion.

Jerkoffs like Andrew Filliaponi do not know a gawd damn thing about the players in the draft or any draft

In fact those of his ilk that don't like the pick, reaffirm my own belief that it was a great pick, the CORRECT pick.

[sowhat]

not thrilled with the pick.
wanted a trade up or a trade down.
i'm thinking the steelers used all their time trying to trade back but found no takers.
if tomlin was here , id be roasting this selection.
illl give mccarthy a pass and see how it turns out.

[Greeksteel]

Regardless of what you think of Lemon or Iheanachor as prospects, that was a huge embarassment to be on the phone with the player you wanted, and the fact that Howie also thought Lemon was a prospect worthy of a trade up is very concerning. By all accounts Iheanachor was a 2nd rnd pick, and that was in weak draft for tackles. Any way you slice and dice it, this was a fail, unless u as a fan wanted no part of Lemon, and thats fine. Just spare me the Howie saved us from ourselves talk. Payback is a bitch and thats what the Cowboys got, for us jumping them for Shazier.

And for the record, I wanted Lemon, Iheanachor while i agree has some potential, he is just way too raw to pick in the first rnd. Really looking like Bernard or Skyler Bell will be a Steeler now. rather than what it would have been, Lemon and a guard or tackle in the 2nd.

[Greeksteel]

Fantastic save by Weidl/Khan

Sure THEY look quite amateurish all on the phone with Lemon allowing Howie and the Eagles to SWOOP in and snipe their guy, but that was divine draft intervention.

THANK YOU, HOWIE!

And thank you OMAR for being asleep at the wheel in front 300,000 drunk yinzers (most of whom could name like 3 draft prospects).

This pick is going to prove to be a HOME RUN.

Not because I'm any kind of aMax lheanachor expert, but because he will not be coached by Tomlin, Uncle Artie, AND PAT FUCKING MEYER!

New Day

HOPEFULLY new results.

What now?

Obviously dumbass K-H-A-N (He's not a hot dog) tipped his hand being on the phone with a wide receiver.

Fortunately he has FOUR....that's 4.....Friday night picks to acquire a quality Wide Receiver.

PLENTY of flavors left on the board (I'd be happy with several including Ted Hurst, Chris Brazzell, Germie, or either Bell).

Are there PLENTY of Offensive Tackles left on the board?

HELL NO

Supply and demand

The draft is going FINE

Max is a GREAT pick

Howie saved Omar from himself

Don't let the ham and eggers on the Internet form your opinion.

Jerkoffs like Andrew Filliaponi do not know a gawd damn thing about the players in the draft or any draft

In fact those of his ilk that don't like the pick, reaffirm my own belief that it was a great pick, the CORRECT pick.

Not letting any ham and egger tell me 2 nfl front offices were wrong about Lemon, and the keyboard prospect evaluators were right either tho. I might question Omar and our idiots, but Howie id trust.

[Steelafan77]

From the shuttle thru the grapevine…..

Of course they had “offers” to move back as well as up….

Staying put is obviously what they did.

Fautanu is not moving to LG. More likely to LT.

Jones may not play another down, we don’t know.

[swissvale72]

Came onto this OP with the intent of saying Iggles were playing chess while Steelers playing checkers, and I was good and pissed last night.

But now....just hoping that you asshats who pay far more attention to draft and prospects than do I (I pay zero attention) are right about the guy we got. And yes, Lemon looked freakin out to lunch in his interview with Laura Rutledge (who's kinda hot).

[tbsteel]

Fantastic save by Weidl/Khan

Sure THEY look quite amateurish all on the phone with Lemon allowing Howie and the Eagles to SWOOP in and snipe their guy, but that was divine draft intervention.

THANK YOU, HOWIE!

And thank you OMAR for being asleep at the wheel in front 300,000 drunk yinzers (most of whom could name like 3 draft prospects).

This pick is going to prove to be a HOME RUN.

Not because I'm any kind of aMax lheanachor expert, but because he will not be coached by Tomlin, Uncle Artie, AND PAT FUCKING MEYER!

New Day

HOPEFULLY new results.

What now?

Obviously dumbass K-H-A-N (He's not a hot dog) tipped his hand being on the phone with a wide receiver.

Fortunately he has FOUR....that's 4.....Friday night picks to acquire a quality Wide Receiver.

PLENTY of flavors left on the board (I'd be happy with several including Ted Hurst, Chris Brazzell, Germie, or either Bell).

Are there PLENTY of Offensive Tackles left on the board?

HELL NO

Supply and demand

The draft is going FINE

Max is a GREAT pick

Howie saved Omar from himself

Don't let the ham and eggers on the Internet form your opinion.

Jerkoffs like Andrew Filliaponi do not know a gawd damn thing about the players in the draft or any draft

In fact those of his ilk that don't like the pick, reaffirm my own belief that it was a great pick, the CORRECT pick.

Not letting any ham and egger tell me 2 nfl front offices were wrong about Lemon, and the keyboard prospect evaluators were right either tho. I might question Omar and our idiots, but Howie id trust.

Like when Howie drafted Jaelon Reagor at #21 a pick before Justin Jefferson?

B2B and Drama’s seal of approval is all I need.

[drmalba]

I'm not unhappy with getting more beefcake for the trenches and was mentally preparing for OL in the first round. Hopefully we ultimately got a mauler, but it sorta sounds like we got a project.

I am definitely unhappy the Iggles played us and got the guy we really wanted and badly needed. Any other team but those dysfunctional douches. I hate all Philly teams and it feels like yet again for the zillionth time they've won the battle of Pennsylvania. I want to rent the Zammoth and plow over Gritty slowly in front of the liberty bell for this humiliation.

[steelclan]

Regardless of what you think of Lemon or Iheanachor as prospects, that was a huge embarassment to be on the phone with the player you wanted, and the fact that Howie also thought Lemon was a prospect worthy of a trade up is very concerning. By all accounts Iheanachor was a 2nd rnd pick, and that was in weak draft for tackles. Any way you slice and dice it, this was a fail, unless u as a fan wanted no part of Lemon, and thats fine. Just spare me the Howie saved us from ourselves talk. Payback is a bitch and thats what the Cowboys got, for us jumping them for Shazier.

And for the record, I wanted Lemon, Iheanachor while i agree has some potential, he is just way too raw to pick in the first rnd. Really looking like Bernard or Skyler Bell will be a Steeler now. rather than what it would have been, Lemon and a guard or tackle in the 2nd.

There were quite a few analysts that had Iheanachor in top 20 and some in top 15. Nate Tice and Trevor Sikkema for example.

Have you actually watched Iheanachor's tape because if you haven't making statements like: "just too raw to pick in the first round," are at best guessing or worse parroting what you heard a TV analyst say. The best draft analysts are not on TV. Haven't been for years. Folks on this website are better at it than Jeremiah, Kiper or whatever warm body in a suit NFL Network or ESPN tosses out.

You tube is filled with good draft analysts. Watching just a few of them gives you decent insight into a draft class. You don't have to watch 3-4 games on every prospect, but it helps to at least watch a few. If you do and take a hard look at Senior bowl practices you'd know Iheanachor going in the first round was hardly shocking.

BTW that Shazier statement sounds like a fella in a tin foil hat yelling that is earth is flat.

[steelclan]

Came onto this OP with the intent of saying Iggles were playing chess while Steelers playing checkers, and I was good and pissed last night.

But now....just hoping that you asshats who pay far more attention to draft and prospects than do I (I pay zero attention) are right about the guy we got. And yes, Lemon looked freakin out to lunch in his interview with Laura Rutledge (who's kinda hot).

Swiss there are zero guarantees. I can tell you what I saw on tape and why I like a player. Whether that be Lemon or Iheanachor. What I or anyone cannot tell you is how this will pan out, we can only guess. It is why I despise draft lingo: plug and play, day 1 starter, can't miss prospect etc.

I wanted Lemon as well but when he was gone. Steelers needed to move on. I don't buy the panic angle at all. Had they been panicky they would've done what they did when Jackson was snagged by the Bengals right in front of them and grabbed Cooper. Now I think Cooper is a better prospect than Artie Burns but it still would've reeked of consolation prize.

[Charles Demarr]

Fantastic save by Weidl/Khan

Sure THEY look quite amateurish all on the phone with Lemon allowing Howie and the Eagles to SWOOP in and snipe their guy, but that was divine draft intervention.

THANK YOU, HOWIE!

And thank you OMAR for being asleep at the wheel in front 300,000 drunk yinzers (most of whom could name like 3 draft prospects).

This pick is going to prove to be a HOME RUN.

Not because I'm any kind of aMax lheanachor expert, but because he will not be coached by Tomlin, Uncle Artie, AND PAT FUCKING MEYER!

New Day

HOPEFULLY new results.

What now?

Obviously dumbass K-H-A-N (He's not a hot dog) tipped his hand being on the phone with a wide receiver.

Fortunately he has FOUR....that's 4.....Friday night picks to acquire a quality Wide Receiver.

PLENTY of flavors left on the board (I'd be happy with several including Ted Hurst, Chris Brazzell, Germie, or either Bell).

Are there PLENTY of Offensive Tackles left on the board?

HELL NO

Supply and demand

The draft is going FINE

Max is a GREAT pick

Howie saved Omar from himself

Don't let the ham and eggers on the Internet form your opinion.

Jerkoffs like Andrew Filliaponi do not know a gawd damn thing about the players in the draft or any draft

In fact those of his ilk that don't like the pick, reaffirm my own belief that it was a great pick, the CORRECT pick.

Fine, you win. Khan still sucks.

[jebrick]

Hopefully they let him sit for a year and learn to be a LT. I'm not sure if they have planned that far