OT: Belichek denied HOF

[StillerDownSouth]

Per Scheffter, Belichek didn't receive enough votes to become a HOF coach in his first year for eligibility, tough croud....LOL

Yet sports media probably still thinks Tomlin is a shoe in.

[.Kodiak]

NHALS >>>> Spy-gate and Deflate-gate


Honestly, screw this "penalty" BS: spy-gate either disqualifies him or not, so this should mean he gets Pete Rose'd.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

We live in a world where that happens AND Shadeur is a pro-bowler and Tomlin is a shoo-in that teams would kill for but won't call him.



It's arguable that BB should get in as a DC not even including his unreal success with the Pats as HC.

[TTP]

This is absurd.

Wait until Big Ben is eligible. He's not getting in on the first ballot. In fact, it might be a while.

[bradshaw2ben]

You also understand that the Hall of Fame changed the voting rules a few years ago and made it very hard to elect everybody. I think it’s going to be much harder to get first ballot guys elected and even more so for coaches and contributors who are now lumped in with seniors

[Ice]

Couple of the FTF guys speculated that this might have been Kraft/Bellicheat feud related.

[tbsteel]

He's a cheater. He's lucky he's even eligible.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

His favorite (not) ESPN guys reported it (wickersham and vanatta)

https://x.com/adamschefter/status/20162 ... 83122?s=42

Great news. The waterboy’s a cheater. Cut his head off

[drmalba]

Per Scheffter, Belichek didn't receive enough votes to become a HOF coach in his first year for eligibility, tough croud....LOL

Yet sports media probably still thinks Tomlin is a shoe in.

If the hall denies the all time Super Bowl wins leader and the guy second in total victories to Don Shula, it's a bigger joke than the pro bowl.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

This probably means Brady will get some pushback too and def. not pull a Mariano Rivera.

[SteelerDayTrader]

He's a cheater. He's lucky he's even eligible.

[Stillerz Bar]

Honestly, screw this "penalty" BS: spy-gate either disqualifies him or not, so this should mean he gets Pete Rose'd.

I cant stand that cheating, arrogant prick and even with that, this is where I am. Either your ineligible or you're not and if you're not disqualified then Spygate and Deflategate shouldn't earn a 1 year penalty.

As much of a dick as he is, it's almost impossible to make a case that he doesn't belong in the HOF.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

The Fat Fuck Peter King gave his comments on in this Via Florio

Our friend Peter King put it best.

“Holy fuck! Oh fuck!”

That was King’s response to the news, via Don Van Natta Jr. and Seth Wickersham of ESPN.com, that former Browns and Patriots coach Bill Belichick did not qualify for the Pro Football Hall of Fame on his first try.

It’s stunning. F-bomb stunning. Double-F-bomb stunning. Belichick ranks second on the all-time wins list. He won six Super Bowls as coach of the Patriots, and two more as the defensive coordinator of the New York Giants. He’s widely regarded as one of the greatest coaches of all time, in any sport.

Belichick’s opponents apparently hung their hats on multiple cheating scandals involving the Patriots. “The only explanation [for the outcome] was the cheating stuff,” an unnamed Hall of Fame voter told ESPN.com. “It really bothered some of the guys.”

Or it was a convenient excuse to get back at someone they just don’t like.

Of the three Patriots cheating scandals, only one stuck to Belichick: Spygate I. Spygate II was never proven, and #Deflategate (a flawed, results-driven investigation with evidence of cheating that was inconclusive at best) was a Tom Brady problem. Belichick, in a memorable press conference that included a reference to Mona Lisa Vito, distanced himself from the question of whether someone was taking the air out of footballs before kickoff.

Even then, Belichick won three Super Bowls after #Deflategate happened, with no doubt that the footballs had enough air in them at all times.

I said it months ago and I’ll say it again now. The failure to put Belichick in on the first try strips the Hall of Fame and its voting process of all legitimacy and credibility. It’s a joke that he didn’t make it. Anyone who voted against his enshrinement should be stripped of the privilege, immediately.

That said, whoever it was that couldn’t set aside Belichick being a jerk to them or who have sneered at how he has conducted himself over the past year or got their way — proving yet again that no amount of power gets abused like hardly any at all.

So congratulations to those who didn’t want him in. You got your pound of flesh. At the expense of the integrity of the Pro Football Hall of Fame

[R_S]

Could it partially be that voters are not sure he won't come back to the NFL in a year or so?

[CKSteeler]

You also understand that the Hall of Fame changed the voting rules a few years ago and made it very hard to elect everybody. I think it’s going to be much harder to get first ballot guys elected and even more so for coaches and contributors who are now lumped in with seniors

Like, Bill Belichick has two fists full of Super Bowl rings. You cannot even begin to tell the story of the last 26 years of the NFL without mentioning him. It's not even possible.

There's no contributor or any player who has been waiting who deserved a vote before him. This is absolute insanity and these clownish voters are making a mockery of the institution that has given them any say.

Then you have Bill fucking Polian saying he can't say with 100% certainty whether he voted for him or not.

There isn't anyone besides Tom Brady with a case even on par with Belichick.

Doesn't matter how you feel about him personally. I don't want to hear about the "scandals" particularly deflategate of all things which was pretty obvious nonsense at the time and only made worse with things we've learned since.

[AirRescueFF]

https://www.profootballhof.com/hall-of- ... n-process/

[rooneytunes]

Fucking stupid. Makes the Hall of Fame look like a joke.

You can hate his personality. You can hate that his team constantly embarrassed you.

Good Lord though. Still have to admit this is dumb as Hell.

[langer]

Peter King planted that story to take the focus off him.

This reeks of his interference.

Belicheat not getting in first ballot is a disgrace, they put Warren Sapp in with no issue, that asshole did jackshit.

[Steeldrama]

Honestly, screw this "penalty" BS: spy-gate either disqualifies him or not, so this should mean he gets Pete Rose'd.

I cant stand that cheating, arrogant prick and even with that, this is where I am. Either your ineligible or you're not and if you're not disqualified then Spygate and Deflategate shouldn't earn a 1 year penalty.

As much of a dick as he is, it's almost impossible to make a case that he doesn't belong in the HOF.

Yeah the Peter Kings and Bill Polians with their axes to grind is quite annoying, but Belichick cheating falls on THE LEAGUE to take away his HOF eligibility not some old, BITTER, anonymous voters.

Who do these jerkoffs think they are policing who gets in and who doesn't?

Broken system for sure.

Pete Rose and the Black Sox scandal are examples of getting caught then formally banned by the league, but much more recently Carlos Beltran just got voted into the baseball HOF.

Dude was one of the ringleaders of the garbage can banging/sign stealing scandal that won the Astros a World Series.

MLB punished the Astros organization and their manager, but MLB didn't strip the Astros of that World Series OR specifically ban members of that team from HOF induction (sure as hell should have).

I doubt cheatin' Jimmy Harbs gives a rip if he gets into the college football HOF, but after he got caught cheating he sure as shit shouldn't.

What's left of the NCAA made their ruling, but nowhere did they strip scUM of their natty OR specifically state Harbaugh is ineligible for any HOF type honors.

Sean Payton was suspended a year after bountygate.

King and Polian going to keep him out the HOF too??

Belichick?

8 Super Bowl rings?

Dude.

Where do you draw the line?

If he doesn't get in then Tom Brady sure as shit shouldn't either since he was the big name benefactor of that cheating.

The NFL didn't strip the Patriots of any titles.

Punishment and fines were levied.

Put the guy in.

A one year delay is just petty bullshit.

[6Trophies]

ESPN reported that Bill Polian, Buffalo’s general manager from 1986-1992, was the most vocal figure in the deliberations surrounding Belichick.

Polian reportedly used Spygate and Deflategate as talking points as to why Belichick should not be inducted this year. A voter who spoke anonymously to Wickersham said that Polian told voters that Belichick should have to wait one year as punishment for Spygate.

[SteelerDayTrader]

First of all

Fuck every single one of you Belicheat ball suckers

It’s always been quite evident this site has an overload of dumbfuck gutless boot lickers but it remains disgusting to witness so many of you happily abound your own elite outlier level fucked in the head for startersness while at same time out and proudly a living embodiment of thank-you-sir-may-I-have-another-one craven cowardness conformity and compliance to your status quo overlords

Belicheat ????? Fuck that cheating lying motherfucker fucking forever


Waaaaa !!!! Waaaaaaa !!! Waaaaaaa !!!!! SOMEBODY CALL THE WAMBULANCE Bill Assfuck Belicheat didnt get in on the first ballot…….Waaaaaa Wasaaaaa Waaaaaaaaasaaaaaa !!! Peter King is upset !!!!! Waaaaaaaaaa !!!


Waaaaaaaaaaas !!!! SteelerDayTrader is mean !!!! Waaaaaaaaaaa !!!! Waaaaaaaaaaasaaaaaa !!!!


Fuck every last one of you complete dumbfuck losers


Fuck Belicheat


Definitely fuck Peter fucking King



Damn

[bradshaw2ben]

You also understand that the Hall of Fame changed the voting rules a few years ago and made it very hard to elect everybody. I think it’s going to be much harder to get first ballot guys elected and even more so for coaches and contributors who are now lumped in with seniors

Like, Bill Belichick has two fists full of Super Bowl rings. You cannot even begin to tell the story of the last 26 years of the NFL without mentioning him. It's not even possible.

There's no contributor or any player who has been waiting who deserved a vote before him. This is absolute insanity and these clownish voters are making a mockery of the institution that has given them any say.

Then you have Bill fucking Polian saying he can't say with 100% certainty whether he voted for him or not.

There isn't anyone besides Tom Brady with a case even on par with Belichick.

Doesn't matter how you feel about him personally. I don't want to hear about the "scandals" particularly deflategate of all things which was pretty obvious nonsense at the time and only made worse with things we've learned since.

I’ve been involved for 5 years with an alternative HOF that goes through all the voting, both of old classes and of present day classes, using the current rules.

There is a ton of pressure extertednto try and get backlogged candidates voted in so there aren’t a big pile of should-be-HOFers getting left out. So some people vote strategically. They purposely vote for guys who have been waiting a long ass time, rightly figuring Belichick will get in soon enough, but the old deserving guys might only have this chance

There’s absolutely nothing that says he has to be a first ballot HOFer, even if you and I agree he should be. This is not like his only chance to get in and it failed-that would be a completely different argument.

[CKSteeler]

You also understand that the Hall of Fame changed the voting rules a few years ago and made it very hard to elect everybody. I think it’s going to be much harder to get first ballot guys elected and even more so for coaches and contributors who are now lumped in with seniors

Like, Bill Belichick has two fists full of Super Bowl rings. You cannot even begin to tell the story of the last 26 years of the NFL without mentioning him. It's not even possible.

There's no contributor or any player who has been waiting who deserved a vote before him. This is absolute insanity and these clownish voters are making a mockery of the institution that has given them any say.

Then you have Bill fucking Polian saying he can't say with 100% certainty whether he voted for him or not.

There isn't anyone besides Tom Brady with a case even on par with Belichick.

Doesn't matter how you feel about him personally. I don't want to hear about the "scandals" particularly deflategate of all things which was pretty obvious nonsense at the time and only made worse with things we've learned since.

I’ve been involved for 5 years with an alternative HOF that goes through all the voting, both of old classes and of present day classes, using the current rules.

There is a ton of pressure extertednto try and get backlogged candidates voted in so there aren’t a big pile of should-be-HOFers getting left out. So some people vote strategically. They purposely vote for guys who have been waiting a long ass time, rightly figuring Belichick will get in soon enough, but the old deserving guys might only have this chance

There’s absolutely nothing that says he has to be a first ballot HOFer, even if you and I agree he should be. This is not like his only chance to get in and it failed-that would be a completely different argument.

Same assholes allowed Robert Kraft to advance. I understand the arguments related to the 'process' and the strategies that get employed. The voters themselves are keenly aware of the "first ballot" nonsense related to the halls.

We just saw Robert Kraft get in as a contributor over the guy who did the actual work. Kraft's "contribution" is he hired Belichick. It's insanity anyway I look at this. That Kraft got in and Bill didn't makes it very difficult to argue this was anything more than an attempt to rebuff Belichick.

[Steeldrama]

Yinzers wont want to hear about any backlogging after King and his cronies make Ben wait a year or 3 for Milledgeville or crashing his bike into a Buick or being a bad tipper around tahn.

Yinz will be all “there weren’t any charges filed!” or “Ben served his suspension for that!”

Nope

The NFL did not put any HOF enshrinement stipulations on Ben’s suspension nor did they on Belichick for spygate or Payton for Bountygate.

What exactly did Terrell Owens do to have to wait other than being an asshole?

More backlogging or just Peter King being an even bigger asshole?

We all know a 1st ballot HOFer when we see one.

Anyway

Deion said there needs to be an “upper room” to the HOF.

Cheating bitch or not 8 Super Bowl rings moves you straight to the front of that line.

Backlogging

That’s for the Lynn Swanns and Bob Grieses.

Their wing is down the hall on the right.

[Sir Lambert]

I think the HOF is the HOF, and it's irrelevant how many years someone was passed over before being inducted.

[Steeldrama]

I think the HOF is the HOF, and it's irrelevant how many years someone was passed over before being inducted.

Joe Montana vs Bob Griese

There's 1st ballot

Then

There's Backlogged

Certain guys deserve more distinction than others

[Steeldrama]

I think the HOF is the HOF, and it's irrelevant how many years someone was passed over before being inducted.

Or in Belicheat's case vs ohhh say Mike Tomlin

8 Rings vs NHALS

One SHOULD'VE been 1st ballot

the other?

Cleaning the HOF's toilets

[Ice]

You also understand that the Hall of Fame changed the voting rules a few years ago and made it very hard to elect everybody. I think it’s going to be much harder to get first ballot guys elected and even more so for coaches and contributors who are now lumped in with seniors

Like, Bill Belichick has two fists full of Super Bowl rings. You cannot even begin to tell the story of the last 26 years of the NFL without mentioning him. It's not even possible.

There's no contributor or any player who has been waiting who deserved a vote before him. This is absolute insanity and these clownish voters are making a mockery of the institution that has given them any say.

Then you have Bill fucking Polian saying he can't say with 100% certainty whether he voted for him or not.

There isn't anyone besides Tom Brady with a case even on par with Belichick.

Doesn't matter how you feel about him personally. I don't want to hear about the "scandals" particularly deflategate of all things which was pretty obvious nonsense at the time and only made worse with things we've learned since.

I’ve been involved for 5 years with an alternative HOF that goes through all the voting, both of old classes and of present day classes, using the current rules.

There is a ton of pressure extertednto try and get backlogged candidates voted in so there aren’t a big pile of should-be-HOFers getting left out. So some people vote strategically. They purposely vote for guys who have been waiting a long ass time, rightly figuring Belichick will get in soon enough, but the old deserving guys might only have this chance

There’s absolutely nothing that says he has to be a first ballot HOFer, even if you and I agree he should be. This is not like his only chance to get in and it failed-that would be a completely different argument.

Okay, between the players on the edge of losing eligibility, and what I just heard about them changing the rules (this year or last? Recently) so coaches only have to wait a year vs. 5 for players, I agree. Chuck Noll waited five. Vince Lombardi, Bill Walsh and Shula waited 5 and even after that weren't first ballot.

If I had a list of players close to losing eligibility that deserved it planned out, and the HOF changed the rules, I'd stick with my list.

Think how we all feel about LC Greenwood. You'd rather another fanbase's equivalent of that guy gets perma-screwed just to put Bellichick in "first ballot?"

I've totally changed my tune on this.

[CKSteeler]

Like, Bill Belichick has two fists full of Super Bowl rings. You cannot even begin to tell the story of the last 26 years of the NFL without mentioning him. It's not even possible.

There's no contributor or any player who has been waiting who deserved a vote before him. This is absolute insanity and these clownish voters are making a mockery of the institution that has given them any say.

Then you have Bill fucking Polian saying he can't say with 100% certainty whether he voted for him or not.

There isn't anyone besides Tom Brady with a case even on par with Belichick.

Doesn't matter how you feel about him personally. I don't want to hear about the "scandals" particularly deflategate of all things which was pretty obvious nonsense at the time and only made worse with things we've learned since.

I’ve been involved for 5 years with an alternative HOF that goes through all the voting, both of old classes and of present day classes, using the current rules.

There is a ton of pressure extertednto try and get backlogged candidates voted in so there aren’t a big pile of should-be-HOFers getting left out. So some people vote strategically. They purposely vote for guys who have been waiting a long ass time, rightly figuring Belichick will get in soon enough, but the old deserving guys might only have this chance

There’s absolutely nothing that says he has to be a first ballot HOFer, even if you and I agree he should be. This is not like his only chance to get in and it failed-that would be a completely different argument.

Okay, between the players on the edge of losing eligibility, and what I just heard about them changing the rules (this year or last? Recently) so coaches only have to wait a year vs. 5 for players, I agree. Chuck Noll waited five. Vince Lombardi, Bill Walsh and Shula waited 5 and even after that weren't first ballot.

If I had a list of players close to losing eligibility that deserved it planned out, and the HOF changed the rules, I'd stick with my list.

Think how we all feel about LC Greenwood. You'd rather another fanbase's equivalent of that guy gets perma-screwed just to put Bellichick in "first ballot?"

I've totally changed my tune on this.

They put Robert Kraft up as a contributor.

I don't think any of these "strategies" to get long waiting guys in played any part here. It's purely political and that's what the leaked stories on this tell us, as well.

You had some bitter resentful asshole Bill Polian lead the way nominally because of Spygate or any other bullshit, but really just because Belichick's Patriots routinely kicked his ass. Stole a Super Bowl from him when he was in Buffalo, and then repeatedly shut down his basic bitch Peyton Manning led Colts in the '00's.

[tbsteel]

Rumor going around is that Belichick has AIDS… have no idea if this affected the HOF vote.

Reportedly he got it from using a dirty buttplug in some consensual horseplay with his young girlfriend.

Supposedly, the AIDS is still solely contained in his ass, so there’s hope over the next few weeks he’ll be able to shit it all out. He’s currently on a high-fiber diet as a result.