Steelers Colts Gameday Bedwetting Thread

[K_C_]

After a tough first half an early mistake, Fields was magnificent in the second half and without that MASSIVE fuck up by Frazier, they either win the game or at the very least, tie it up.

Holy shit.

Lost to Joe Flacco and statistically the worst D.


Magnificent. Lol.

The D choked, the offense played like shit for an entire half against one of the worst defenses in football with Fields having on of the most embarrassing fumbles I've ever seen, and people are trying to blame the center for losing the game. Unreal.

Again, you can't admit you were wrong about Fields and you're struggling.

I get it.

The guy was phenomenal in the second half after that fumble. Phenomenal.

It's so weird how some folks are so worried about being proven wrong, they can't give credit where credit's due.

It's actually beyond pathetic but par for the course I guess.

[steelmann58]

all the classic Tomlin game

[K_C_]

Frazier channeling his inner Mason Cole.

You can keep blaming him for years if you want—either Fields or the guard called for the snap. It’s a blind play for Frazier and he is dependent on the communication between the other two guys.

Except that if you watch the replay, you can see McCormick tap Frazier to snap the ball. Problem was…Frazier had already snapped the ball. 100% on Frazier.

Yep, rewatching it I'm afraid Frazier snapped that on his own.

Terrible, terrible timing on what looked like the beginning of a great drive.

[steelmann58]

again costly mistakes and the shitty defense was the key along with some classic tomlin blunders doomed this team

[W&M_Steeler]

Lost to Joe Flacco and statistically the worst D.


Magnificent. Lol.

The D choked, the offense played like shit for an entire half against one of the worst defenses in football with Fields having on of the most embarrassing fumbles I've ever seen, and people are trying to blame the center for losing the game. Unreal.

Again, you can't admit you were wrong about Fields and you're struggling.

I get it.

The guy was phenomenal in the second half after that fumble. Phenomenal.

It's so weird how some folks are so worried about being proven wrong, they can't give credit where credit's due.

It's actually beyond pathetic but par for the course I guess.

That argument is like the old Willie Parker arguments. Take away Willie's long runs and he sucked. Take away Fields' terribly embarrassing plays and he was great. Neither argument is very good.

I think saying Fields is a back-up level QB whose crappy first half play contributed more to this loss than Frazier is a more reasonable position than blaming Frazier for one play and calling him Mason Cole, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

[LakecrestSteeler]

You can keep blaming him for years if you want—either Fields or the guard called for the snap. It’s a blind play for Frazier and he is dependent on the communication between the other two guys.

Except that if you watch the replay, you can see McCormick tap Frazier to snap the ball. Problem was…Frazier had already snapped the ball. 100% on Frazier.

Yep, rewatching it I'm afraid Frazier snapped that on his own.

Terrible, terrible timing on what looked like the beginning of a great drive.

Frazier’s explanation makes zero sense. He got tapped when barking out coverage than snapped it essentially while Anderson was clearly looking for the signal for the second tap.

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[K_C_]

The D choked, the offense played like shit for an entire half against one of the worst defenses in football with Fields having on of the most embarrassing fumbles I've ever seen, and people are trying to blame the center for losing the game. Unreal.

Again, you can't admit you were wrong about Fields and you're struggling.

I get it.

The guy was phenomenal in the second half after that fumble. Phenomenal.

It's so weird how some folks are so worried about being proven wrong, they can't give credit where credit's due.

It's actually beyond pathetic but par for the course I guess.

That argument is like the old Willie Parker arguments. Take away Willie's long runs and he sucked. Take away Fields' terribly embarrassing plays and he was great. Neither argument is very good.

I think saying Fields is a back-up level QB whose crappy first half play contributed more to this loss than Frazier is a more reasonable position than blaming Frazier for one play and calling him Mason Cole, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

Fields had 1 embarrassing play.

The fumble.

After the fumble, he was phenomenal.

Let's remember Pickens personally took points off the board early. Very possibly a TD.

The bad snap was on Frazier. He snapped the ball before the tap.

Again, you just don't want to be wrong....but you are. Just accept it.

[Texas Black & Gold]

Go Chargers
10 to zip

[W&M_Steeler]

Again, you can't admit you were wrong about Fields and you're struggling.

I get it.

The guy was phenomenal in the second half after that fumble. Phenomenal.

It's so weird how some folks are so worried about being proven wrong, they can't give credit where credit's due.

It's actually beyond pathetic but par for the course I guess.

That argument is like the old Willie Parker arguments. Take away Willie's long runs and he sucked. Take away Fields' terribly embarrassing plays and he was great. Neither argument is very good.

I think saying Fields is a back-up level QB whose crappy first half play contributed more to this loss than Frazier is a more reasonable position than blaming Frazier for one play and calling him Mason Cole, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

Fields had 1 embarrassing play.

The fumble.

After the fumble, he was phenomenal.

Let's remember Pickens personally took points off the board early. Very possibly a TD.

The bad snap was on Frazier. He snapped the ball before the tap.

Again, you just don't want to be wrong....but you are. Just accept it.

What exactly am I wrong about? In my belief that Justin Fields is not a good solution as the long term starter for the Steelers and shouldn't be given a long term starter's contract? Are you already convinced otherwise?

I grant you Pickens' fumble. Losing James Daniels hurt. I don't put primary blame on Fields for losing that game- it's far more the defense's fault. But I don't put much blame at all on Frazier for the loss, and I won't handwave away the first half. I am far from convinced that Fields is the answer- if he were, maybe we wouldn't be blaming a botched snap in a last minute panic drive against one of the worst defenses in the league for losing that game. Today did little to convince me that signing Fields long term as a starter would be a good idea.

[K_C_]

That argument is like the old Willie Parker arguments. Take away Willie's long runs and he sucked. Take away Fields' terribly embarrassing plays and he was great. Neither argument is very good.

I think saying Fields is a back-up level QB whose crappy first half play contributed more to this loss than Frazier is a more reasonable position than blaming Frazier for one play and calling him Mason Cole, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

Fields had 1 embarrassing play.

The fumble.

After the fumble, he was phenomenal.

Let's remember Pickens personally took points off the board early. Very possibly a TD.

The bad snap was on Frazier. He snapped the ball before the tap.

Again, you just don't want to be wrong....but you are. Just accept it.

What exactly am I wrong about? In my belief that Justin Fields is not a good solution as the long term starter for the Steelers and shouldn't be given a long term starter's contract? Are you already convinced otherwise?

I grant you Pickens' fumble. Losing James Daniels hurt. I don't put primary blame on Fields for losing that game- it's far more the defense's fault. But I don't put much blame at all on Frazier for the loss, and I won't handwave away the first half. I am far from convinced that Fields is the answer- if he were, maybe we wouldn't be blaming a botched snap in a last minute panic drive against one of the worst defenses in the league for losing that game. Today did little to convince me that signing Fields long term as a starter would be a good idea.

Let me get this straight to find out if you've been huffing paint during the game.....

You put no blame on Zach Frazier, who during the game tying or game winning drive, AFTER THE STEELERS HAD ALREADY GOTTEN 2 FIRST DOWNS, puts Fields in a second and 22 all by himself.

On the drive that decides the game?

My God. Yeah, you aren't worth trying to talk any sense to.

Fields played GREAT after that fumble and the Colts were shitting bricks until Zach Frazier made the best play for the Colts the entire day.

[W&M_Steeler]

Fields had 1 embarrassing play.

The fumble.

After the fumble, he was phenomenal.

Let's remember Pickens personally took points off the board early. Very possibly a TD.

The bad snap was on Frazier. He snapped the ball before the tap.

Again, you just don't want to be wrong....but you are. Just accept it.

What exactly am I wrong about? In my belief that Justin Fields is not a good solution as the long term starter for the Steelers and shouldn't be given a long term starter's contract? Are you already convinced otherwise?

I grant you Pickens' fumble. Losing James Daniels hurt. I don't put primary blame on Fields for losing that game- it's far more the defense's fault. But I don't put much blame at all on Frazier for the loss, and I won't handwave away the first half. I am far from convinced that Fields is the answer- if he were, maybe we wouldn't be blaming a botched snap in a last minute panic drive against one of the worst defenses in the league for losing that game. Today did little to convince me that signing Fields long term as a starter would be a good idea.

Let me get this straight to find out if you've been huffing paint during the game.....

You put no blame on Zach Frazier, who during the game tying or game winning drive, AFTER THE STEELERS HAD ALREADY GOTTEN 2 FIRST DOWNS, puts Fields in a second and 22 all by himself.

On the drive that decides the game?

My God. Yeah, you aren't worth trying to talk any sense to.

Fields played GREAT after that fumble and the Colts were shitting bricks until Zach Frazier made the best play for the Colts the entire day.

You didn't answer my question. Are you convinced that Fields is the answer and should be given a long-term starter's contract ($30 million/ more a year)?

If you have to blame one play from a rookie center to build your case for Fields, then you have a weak case. If Frazier snapped the ball too early then he should take some blame for the loss. But if the offense, Fields included, had played worth a damn in the first half, then the Steelers wouldn't have been in the position for a last drive botched snap to cost them the game. The Fields backwards run fumble and the Pickens fumble were as costly as the Frazier fumble, but you want to single out and blame Frazier for the loss. Why is that?

[Steelperch]

Two things.

All you asshats fighting to blame the loss on Fields or Frazier are letting a horrendous defensive performance off the hook.

On Fields, let’s take an honest review of his skill set and performance after 4 weeks.
Arm strength is outstanding.
Accuracy on short and deep balls has been great.
Athleticism, he’s probably the second best runner at the QB position in the league after Lamar Jackson.

Downside is his ability to read defenses and recognize blitzes needs a lot of work and he’s prone to try to do too much and fuck up a drive like the fumble sack today. What Fields needs is a really good QB coach which he won’t get in Pittsburgh. They will limit him to handoff guy, QB run guy, and throws where he only has to read half the field. They won’t develop him into a complete QB, but I think he’s got the tools to get there.

[stillthere]

Let’s see, the QB has a history of doing that very thing, with his prior team and current team


Bit blame the center, when they are on silent count


fail

Literally only someone with a severe mental defect would blame that snap on Fields.

Seriously.

Get the help of a mental health professional.

It’s silent count


Fields has done that exact same thing, about 10 times in his career


He has a habit of not paying attention to the fucking center

Keep blaming the other guy


Of the QB pulls out too fast. That’s on him.

Of the QB is t paying attention on silent count. That’s on him.


When the QB in question has well over a dozen fumbled snaps, who tf do you think the issue is with ???

In this case, it is not on Fields.
https://x.com/DavidMTodd/status/1840484811204338147

[K_C_]

What exactly am I wrong about? In my belief that Justin Fields is not a good solution as the long term starter for the Steelers and shouldn't be given a long term starter's contract? Are you already convinced otherwise?

I grant you Pickens' fumble. Losing James Daniels hurt. I don't put primary blame on Fields for losing that game- it's far more the defense's fault. But I don't put much blame at all on Frazier for the loss, and I won't handwave away the first half. I am far from convinced that Fields is the answer- if he were, maybe we wouldn't be blaming a botched snap in a last minute panic drive against one of the worst defenses in the league for losing that game. Today did little to convince me that signing Fields long term as a starter would be a good idea.

Let me get this straight to find out if you've been huffing paint during the game.....

You put no blame on Zach Frazier, who during the game tying or game winning drive, AFTER THE STEELERS HAD ALREADY GOTTEN 2 FIRST DOWNS, puts Fields in a second and 22 all by himself.

On the drive that decides the game?

My God. Yeah, you aren't worth trying to talk any sense to.

Fields played GREAT after that fumble and the Colts were shitting bricks until Zach Frazier made the best play for the Colts the entire day.

You didn't answer my question. Are you convinced that Fields is the answer and should be given a long-term starter's contract ($30 million/ more a year)?

If you have to blame one play from a rookie center to build your case for Fields, then you have a weak case. If Frazier snapped the ball too early then he should take some blame for the loss. But if the offense, Fields included, had played worth a damn in the first half, then the Steelers wouldn't have been in the position for a last drive botched snap to cost them the game. The Fields backwards run fumble and the Pickens fumble were as costly as the Frazier fumble, but you want to single out and blame Frazier for the loss. Why is that?

Am I convinced Fields is worth building around?

I need to see a little more but I'm getting real, real close to saying YES.

Fields' fumble (his only major mistake in the game) was big.

How did he respond? With 3 incredible TD drives.

All of them long, down the field TD drives. Nothing cheap and he was incredbie.

He's getting better and the Steelers are getting more comfortable with Fields throwing.

If you read the game thread I wrote, when the Steelers went down 14-0 something to the effect of; "I don't mind being down 14-0. We're going to find out what Fields is all about."

....and we did.

Without that moronic snap, Fields was FUCKING ROLLING....AND YOU KNOW IT.

[zeke5123]

Two things.

All you asshats fighting to blame the loss on Fields or Frazier are letting a horrendous defensive performance off the hook.

On Fields, let’s take an honest review of his skill set and performance after 4 weeks.
Arm strength is outstanding.
Accuracy on short and deep balls has been great.
Athleticism, he’s probably the second best runner at the QB position in the league after Lamar Jackson.

Downside is his ability to read defenses and recognize blitzes needs a lot of work and he’s prone to try to do too much and fuck up a drive like the fumble sack today. What Fields needs is a really good QB coach which he won’t get in Pittsburgh. They will limit him to handoff guy, QB run guy, and throws where he only has to read half the field. They won’t develop him into a complete QB, but I think he’s got the tools to get there.

He has been in the NFL for a while now Perch. I’m just not sure that reading a defense is something he is capable of. Maybe — we shall see.

[K_C_]

Two things.

All you asshats fighting to blame the loss on Fields or Frazier are letting a horrendous defensive performance off the hook.

On Fields, let’s take an honest review of his skill set and performance after 4 weeks.
Arm strength is outstanding.
Accuracy on short and deep balls has been great.
Athleticism, he’s probably the second best runner at the QB position in the league after Lamar Jackson.

Downside is his ability to read defenses and recognize blitzes needs a lot of work and he’s prone to try to do too much and fuck up a drive like the fumble sack today. What Fields needs is a really good QB coach which he won’t get in Pittsburgh. They will limit him to handoff guy, QB run guy, and throws where he only has to read half the field. They won’t develop him into a complete QB, but I think he’s got the tools to get there.

Do you think Fields is the long term answer at QB in Pittsburgh, Perch?

[Charles Demarr]

The D choked, the offense played like shit for an entire half against one of the worst defenses in football with Fields having on of the most embarrassing fumbles I've ever seen, and people are trying to blame the center for losing the game. Unreal.

Again, you can't admit you were wrong about Fields and you're struggling.

I get it.

The guy was phenomenal in the second half after that fumble. Phenomenal.

It's so weird how some folks are so worried about being proven wrong, they can't give credit where credit's due.

It's actually beyond pathetic but par for the course I guess.

That argument is like the old Willie Parker arguments. Take away Willie's long runs and he sucked. Take away Fields' terribly embarrassing plays and he was great. Neither argument is very good.

I think saying Fields is a back-up level QB whose crappy first half play contributed more to this loss than Frazier is a more reasonable position than blaming Frazier for one play and calling him Mason Cole, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

He had one idiot play to go along with 370 total yards of offense and three touchdowns. My God, what do you want? On top of that, he was under duress about 75% of his drop backs. He did that with a bottom five offensive unit in the NFL. Their skill position players are terrible, outside of Pickens, and sometimes Freiermuth.

[K_C_]

Two things.

All you asshats fighting to blame the loss on Fields or Frazier are letting a horrendous defensive performance off the hook.

On Fields, let’s take an honest review of his skill set and performance after 4 weeks.
Arm strength is outstanding.
Accuracy on short and deep balls has been great.
Athleticism, he’s probably the second best runner at the QB position in the league after Lamar Jackson.

Downside is his ability to read defenses and recognize blitzes needs a lot of work and he’s prone to try to do too much and fuck up a drive like the fumble sack today. What Fields needs is a really good QB coach which he won’t get in Pittsburgh. They will limit him to handoff guy, QB run guy, and throws where he only has to read half the field. They won’t develop him into a complete QB, but I think he’s got the tools to get there.

He has been in the NFL for a while now Perch. I’m just not sure that reading a defense is something he is capable of. Maybe — we shall see.

Looked to me, when he wasn't under ridiculous pressure, Fields was reading defenses just fine.

No QB likes to be under immediate heavy pressure. Not Brady, Mahomes, not any of them.

Once the Steelers started limiting the pressure a little, Fields made all the right reads.

[K_C_]

Again, you can't admit you were wrong about Fields and you're struggling.

I get it.

The guy was phenomenal in the second half after that fumble. Phenomenal.

It's so weird how some folks are so worried about being proven wrong, they can't give credit where credit's due.

It's actually beyond pathetic but par for the course I guess.

That argument is like the old Willie Parker arguments. Take away Willie's long runs and he sucked. Take away Fields' terribly embarrassing plays and he was great. Neither argument is very good.

I think saying Fields is a back-up level QB whose crappy first half play contributed more to this loss than Frazier is a more reasonable position than blaming Frazier for one play and calling him Mason Cole, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

He had one idiot play to go along with 370 total yards of offense and three touchdowns. My God, what do you want? On top of that, he was under duress about 75% of his drop backs.

You don't understand. A lot of folks here don't have the ability to say; "I don't like Fields but has played far beyond my expectations this year and he deserved better today."

It's about being right about a player and that's sooooo scary fucking dumb.

I didn't like the Fields trade. I thought playing for the Bears ruined him. I think the kid might seriously be turning into a franchise QB and I assure you, the Steelers coaches and front office are probably real close to where I'm at.

[Jizz Mop]

This means the Steelers will play hungry next Sunday night against the Cowboys.

I predict a bounce back game at home next week.

Here We Go Steelers

They will be ready

Are you a plant for the Rooney family? Battle social media negativity regarding the team and its elite HC?

I am Mr. Rooney to you....

Ha

[W&M_Steeler]

Again, you can't admit you were wrong about Fields and you're struggling.

I get it.

The guy was phenomenal in the second half after that fumble. Phenomenal.

It's so weird how some folks are so worried about being proven wrong, they can't give credit where credit's due.

It's actually beyond pathetic but par for the course I guess.

That argument is like the old Willie Parker arguments. Take away Willie's long runs and he sucked. Take away Fields' terribly embarrassing plays and he was great. Neither argument is very good.

I think saying Fields is a back-up level QB whose crappy first half play contributed more to this loss than Frazier is a more reasonable position than blaming Frazier for one play and calling him Mason Cole, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

He had one idiot play to go along with 370 total yards of offense and three touchdowns. My God, what do you want? On top of that, he was under duress about 75% of his drop backs. He did that with a bottom five offensive unit in the NFL. Their skill position players are terrible, outside of Pickens, and sometimes Freiermuth.

I'll ask the same question I asked KC: Are you convinced that Fields is the answer and should be given a long-term starter's contract ($30 million/ more a year)?

I'm not going to just ignore the first half today, and that one "idiot play" was one of the worst NFL plays I have ever seen. Mark "Buttfumble" Sanchez was made a laughing stock for a less embarrassing play. It wasn't quite Garo Yepremian in the Super Bowl bad, but it was in the neighborhood.

What do I want to see? 10 or so games where Fields tops 300 yards passing, full of accurate throws in tight windows across the intermediate middle, with multiple passing TDs in those games, and the Steelers win. If that happens, I'll be convinced that Fields has what it takes to be a perennial top-15 QB. The second half today was a good start, but it didn't erase the first half, and he has a long way to go in my eyes before I see him as anything more than good back-up / bottom 10 starter.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Was anyone else disappointed that Fields didn’t cleanly scoop and make a play or flip it forward out of bounds?

That bothered me and surprised me. I thought with his speed he would scoop with one hand and actually get out of bounds. He was a pedestrian athlete on the play!

Just was waiting to be pleasantly surprised on that play and gush over his athleticism!

[anpsteel]

Frazier channeling his inner Mason Cole.

You can keep blaming him for years if you want—either Fields or the guard called for the snap. It’s a blind play for Frazier and he is dependent on the communication between the other two guys.

So Fields called for the ball while looking towards the sidelines?



Dude please.

Fields admitted it was on him

[K_C_]

You can keep blaming him for years if you want—either Fields or the guard called for the snap. It’s a blind play for Frazier and he is dependent on the communication between the other two guys.

So Fields called for the ball while looking towards the sidelines?



Dude please.

Fields admitted it was on him

Of course he's going to say that.

Ben used to say it was his fault when the o-line didn't block anybody.

It's clearly on Frazier.

[anpsteel]

Literally only someone with a severe mental defect would blame that snap on Fields.

Seriously.

Get the help of a mental health professional.

It’s silent count


Fields has done that exact same thing, about 10 times in his career


He has a habit of not paying attention to the fucking center

Keep blaming the other guy


Of the QB pulls out too fast. That’s on him.

Of the QB is t paying attention on silent count. That’s on him.


When the QB in question has well over a dozen fumbled snaps, who tf do you think the issue is with ???

In this case, it is not on Fields.
https://x.com/DavidMTodd/status/1840484811204338147

In this case it is



https://steelersdepot.com/2024/09/justi ... ched-snap/

[K_C_]

It’s silent count


Fields has done that exact same thing, about 10 times in his career


He has a habit of not paying attention to the fucking center

Keep blaming the other guy


Of the QB pulls out too fast. That’s on him.

Of the QB is t paying attention on silent count. That’s on him.


When the QB in question has well over a dozen fumbled snaps, who tf do you think the issue is with ???

In this case, it is not on Fields.
https://x.com/DavidMTodd/status/1840484811204338147

In this case it is



https://steelersdepot.com/2024/09/justi ... ched-snap/

Um.....no it isn't.



https://x.com/DavidMTodd/status/1840484811204338147

[anpsteel]

So Fields called for the ball while looking towards the sidelines?



Dude please.

Fields admitted it was on him

Of course he's going to say that.

Ben used to say it was his fault when the o-line didn't block anybody.

It's clearly on Frazier.

Nope, fields said the snap was on first leg kick

Once he does that, it’s on him


Read what he had to say

[K_C_]

Fields admitted it was on him

Of course he's going to say that.

Ben used to say it was his fault when the o-line didn't block anybody.

It's clearly on Frazier.

Nope, fields said the snap was on first leg kick

Once he does that, it’s on him


Read what he had to say

Oh Christ.

Frazier can't see Fields leg kick.

The guard is looking back and doesn't tap Frazier.

Sheesh.

[.Kodiak]

but I think he’s got the tools to get there.

11th overall pick has "all the tools". Super astute observation there.

[Steelperch]

Two things.

All you asshats fighting to blame the loss on Fields or Frazier are letting a horrendous defensive performance off the hook.

On Fields, let’s take an honest review of his skill set and performance after 4 weeks.
Arm strength is outstanding.
Accuracy on short and deep balls has been great.
Athleticism, he’s probably the second best runner at the QB position in the league after Lamar Jackson.

Downside is his ability to read defenses and recognize blitzes needs a lot of work and he’s prone to try to do too much and fuck up a drive like the fumble sack today. What Fields needs is a really good QB coach which he won’t get in Pittsburgh. They will limit him to handoff guy, QB run guy, and throws where he only has to read half the field. They won’t develop him into a complete QB, but I think he’s got the tools to get there.

Do you think Fields is the long term answer at QB in Pittsburgh, Perch?

Not yet, but he has the tools. I know Russell Wilson is not. I knew Kenny Pickett was not. Fields has a fuck ton of potential and he’s played way better than I expected. As a passer he’s way better than given credit for. With Tomlin and our offensive philosophy I am not sure Patrick Mahomes would be the long term answer here.

Fields put up 360+ yards of offense and 3 Tds today and people are shitting on him. That isn’t right.