Pickett traded to Eagles

[bradshaw2ben]

Wow. Didn't think we had it in us.

That opens up getting a QB in round 1.

I'm hoping they bring in Penix. Let him sit a year behind Russ

What so he can get even more overaged while sitting on the bench? Penix will be 24 1/2 when *this* season starts. Jordan love is younger now than Penix will be next season, and he's been in the league for 4 seasons already.

[DP39]

I’m thinking we trade that number 98 pic for Justin Fields or sign another free agent quarterback like Ryan Tannehill and spend that pic on a mid round QB like Joe Milton or something

That is so, so dumb.

slot CB
outside CB depth
WR2
WR 3/4
C
OT
IDL depth
EDGE depth

That stuff is way more important than drafting a scrub QB. Sign guys from the street who have just as good a chance to be useful as anybody who's name is being bandied about today.

Is Moon not their OLB4, at this point? With Herbig being OLB3, obviously.

They've only been carrying 4 OLBs lately.

[bradshaw2ben]

Can Wilson hold on until Manning enters the draft?

From their draft slot in the 20s, it would take like 5 #1 picks to even get the interest of the team holding the #1 that year.

[K_C_]

Wow. Didn't think we had it in us.

That opens up getting a QB in round 1.

I'm hoping they bring in Penix. Let him sit a year behind Russ

What so he can get even more overaged while sitting on the bench? Penix will be 24 1/2 when *this* season starts. Jordan love is younger now than Penix will be next season, and he's been in the league for 4 seasons already.

I wouldn’t doubt that after we get a load of Russell Wilson in this offense, we might wish we drafted Penix Jr. and handed him the keys day one.

Hope I’m wrong.

[bradshaw2ben]

Only pick I give up for Fields is our 5th round pick.

1-20
2-51
3-84, 98
4-119
5 - None
6-195
7-None

Need a C, T, DL, WR, S, CB with those first 5 picks.

Get the OL straight before you draft a QB.
QB in 2025

Which is hilariously accurate because we don't have a 5th round pick. You forget our front office was giving away day 3 picks like candy the past few years.

[AirRescueFF]

Just think - This team could have drafted a future all pro center with the Pickett selection and just rolled with Rudolph and Trubisky at QB in 2022. Now we still need a center and none of the QBs are on the roster two years later. Clearly this was Colbert’s final fuck you decision to the franchise.

Hated the pick.

Said rather stock up on needs and then shoot their shot the following year for a QB where there was depth at the draft.

[Jams]

Screw KP I knew he was a shitty teammate when the reporter asked him if he gained a different perspective and learned something from watching from the sidelines. He just said "no". A real professional whould have said something supportive of his team. He's selfish. Good luck bagging groceries soon, loser.

[bradshaw2ben]

Wow. Didn't think we had it in us.

That opens up getting a QB in round 1.

SHUT YOUR MOUTH

Let's set the franchise back ANOTHER FOUR YEARS by making the same mistake WE JUST HAD TO TRADE AWAY for peanuts.

Steelers are never going 3-14, tho. Gonna have to mortgage the farm to move up and take a swing sooner or later. This year, no. Next year?

You put Cam Ward on any team with at least decent protection/run game/targets and he transcends the shitty scheme. He can make plays on 3rd down when your regular offense isn't working. Maybe a guy like TJ Finley fits that mold, too. Fifita is like a young Russ Wilson. Taylen Green is a faster and better-arm-talent version of Anthony Richardson. Those guys are better, younger, and higher upside than this year's class outside of maybe Caleb Williams, and even that isn't a sure thing.

[Professor Half Wit]

Can Wilson hold on until Manning enters the draft?

From their draft slot in the 20s, it would take like 5 #1 picks to even get the interest of the team holding the #1 that year.

But isn't that the point?

You say hell no don't take a QB this year. Will just set us back another 4 years. I don't disagree.

But given where the Steelers are always going to be drafting (at least while Tomlin has TJ and Minkah), you're going to have to mortgage the farm sooner or later to go up and get a guy.

When do you want to do that? When TJ and Minkah are old and done or after they're gone or 2025?

Or keep taking 4-6 round projects on a Brock Purdy prayer?

[bradshaw2ben]

Wow! You may be right

Edit - with money needed for Russ and Justin I can’t see it

Russ costs zero dollars other than league minimum

Talking moving forward

I think you'd only sign one of them at most. If Russ plays well, you sign him to his last deal. If he doesn't you wither sign Fields to return at a reduced price with the carrot of competing for the job with a rookie or you say thanks but no thanks.

[bradshaw2ben]

I’m thinking we trade that number 98 pic for Justin Fields or sign another free agent quarterback like Ryan Tannehill and spend that pic on a mid round QB like Joe Milton or something

That is so, so dumb.

slot CB
outside CB depth
WR2
WR 3/4
C
OT
IDL depth
EDGE depth

That stuff is way more important than drafting a scrub QB. Sign guys from the street who have just as good a chance to be useful as anybody who's name is being bandied about today.

Is Moon not their OLB4, at this point? With Herbig being OLB3, obviously.

They've only been carrying 4 OLBs lately.

I guess that's acceptable depth as long as no one is injured.

[bradshaw2ben]

Can Wilson hold on until Manning enters the draft?

From their draft slot in the 20s, it would take like 5 #1 picks to even get the interest of the team holding the #1 that year.

But isn't that the point?

You say hell no don't take a QB this year. Will just set us back another 4 years. I don't disagree.

But given where the Steelers are always going to be drafting (at least while Tomlin has TJ and Minkah), you're going to have to mortgage the farm sooner or later to go up and get a guy.

When do you want to do that? When TJ and Minkah are old and done or after they're gone or 2025?

Or keep taking 4-6 round projects on a Brock Purdy prayer?

I don't mind moving up like the Devin Bush or Polamalu deals to get that 3rd or 4th QB in a great class. I mind wasting any top 120 pick on mediocre talent.

Also, address your holes this year, implement the new offense and learn how you have to run it with these characters, be ready to move up net year and get a guy who can be elite. Only draft or trade for a guy if you think he is or can be elite. Otherwise, there are guys on the street who can be fine backups and handoff monkeys.

[Jobu]

Live look at Kenny leaving the Steelers facility:

Is it wrong that I laughed at that?

[CoolShades]

Russ is still a 1 year rental, so there has to be some sort of bigger picture plan.


They still need a center, a right tackle, and they capable starting receiver to play opposite Pickens

+2 back up quarterbacks

You have to assume they’re going for receiver and free agency, because you need that person to start right away

The offensive line positions I suspect they’ll fill through the draft, with center being the most urgent at the moment

It sets up perfectly for draft an elite prospect QB in 2025... but I'm sure they'll repeat exactly the same mistake they just made 3 years ago by panicking and drafting a mediocre QB this year. Kahn, you want to prove to me that you're learning and better than the previous guy... for fucks sake don't make that same mistake again and piss away another 4 years.

Jesus Christ, you trust Tomlin to develop a rookie QB?

The only way this makes sense is if Kahn is planning on saying goodbye to Tomlin.

Has he signed his extension yet?

[AirRescueFF]

Waiting for "volunteers, not hostages" quote.

[CoolShades]

It will be utterly hilarious if this happens!!

He sucked here. He's not going to work here. So it doesn't matter what he does elsewhere—cuz he wasn't going to do well here.

My opinion!

....and I respect it.

I believe Pickett played pretty damn well as a rookie once he got his feet underneath him, but was a victim of Tomlin/Canada's ridiculously uber-conservative offense.

Don't make mistakes. Don't throw INT's. Take the checkdown. Be careful with the ball. If we have to punt 25 yards with Harvin, that's better than a mistake.

Pickett had natural gunslinger instincts that Tomlin and Canada completely removed. I definitely did not like what I saw last year from Pickett, but I wish him well and if he can regain his confidence, I still 100% believe he can be a very good NFL QB.

We'll see what happens.

I agree with you.

I’m Pickett agnostic. I always felt he got a raw deal because of who his coaches were in Pittsburgh. When the Steelers allowed Tomlin to keep Canada, I had a feeling Kenny was going to struggle last year. They choked the life out of him. I wish him well.

At least he’s away from the nightmare of Mike Tomlin. I hope Kenny gets a ring, even if it’s as a backup, and rubs it in Cam and TJ’s faces.

Teflon Tomlin’s excuses are all gone now. I wonder who everyone is going to blame now when the Steelers struggle this year?

Black coach, black QB...can’t criticize them. That would make you a rayciss!

Uh, oh... TJ, you’d better watch your back! They are coming for you!

[Orlaco]

Someone once wrote that Big Ben was the next Ryan Leaf.

Many years later, someone wrote that Kenny f’n Pickett has a MUCH better chance lf being the next Ryan Leaf (after referencing that cum-dumpster quote).

[Orangesteel]

[Steelperch]

Michael Penix Jr. time!!

Given your recent fandom history of QBs, how bout you sit this one out, champ!

[langer]

Was it Kenny Football all along and not Canada?

The entire O was a cesspool filled with turds stirred around by an idiot.

Hopefully this is a clean slate approach.

Hmm makes Najees comments a little different doesn’t it.

[Steelperch]

I’m thinking we trade that number 98 pic for Justin Fields or sign another free agent quarterback like Ryan Tannehill and spend that pic on a mid round QB like Joe Milton or something

That is so, so dumb.

slot CB
outside CB depth
WR2
WR 3/4
C
OT
IDL depth
EDGE depth

That stuff is way more important than drafting a scrub QB. Sign guys from the street who have just as good a chance to be useful as anybody who's name is being bandied about today.

You may think it’s dumb, but we aren’t going into camp with 1 or 2 QBs. And you can be sure one of them will be a young guy. Either trade for Fields or mid round draft pick.

[tbsteel]

He sucked here. He's not going to work here. So it doesn't matter what he does elsewhere—cuz he wasn't going to do well here.

My opinion!

....and I respect it.

I believe Pickett played pretty damn well as a rookie once he got his feet underneath him, but was a victim of Tomlin/Canada's ridiculously uber-conservative offense.

Don't make mistakes. Don't throw INT's. Take the checkdown. Be careful with the ball. If we have to punt 25 yards with Harvin, that's better than a mistake.

Pickett had natural gunslinger instincts that Tomlin and Canada completely removed. I definitely did not like what I saw last year from Pickett, but I wish him well and if he can regain his confidence, I still 100% believe he can be a very good NFL QB.

We'll see what happens.

I agree with you.

I’m Pickett agnostic. I always felt he got a raw deal because of who his coaches were in Pittsburgh. When the Steelers allowed Tomlin to keep Canada, I had a feeling Kenny was going to struggle last year. They choked the life out of him. I wish him well.

At least he’s away from the nightmare of Mike Tomlin. I hope Kenny gets a ring, even if it’s as a backup, and rubs it in Cam and TJ’s faces.

Teflon Tomlin’s excuses are all gone now. I wonder who everyone is going to blame now when the Steelers struggle this year?

Black coach, black QB...can’t criticize them. That would make you a rayciss!

Uh, oh... TJ, you’d better watch your back! They are coming for you!

Tomlin has his warts, but why in the ever-loving fuck would you take take sides with lil kenny over Tomlin?

kenny is a bust who forced his way out of Pittsburgh after two years because he was rightfully benched last year in favor of a backup level QB who was clearly better than him and then wasn’t promised his little starter position because he’s allergic to throwing touchdowns. At least Tomlin got us a Super Bowl and back to another one. That sure as shit wasn’t happening with little ken.

[.Kodiak]

The most shocking thing about Kengina is that the DEFENSE, not the offense, were the ones to go recruiting Wilson.

Defense must have been steaming last year every time they had to go back on the field after another 3 and out.

[lifelongsteel]

Feels like Tannehill and a relatively early pick with near term upside or Fields and a late round pick / UDFA

[Steelperch]

The most shocking thing about Kengina is that the DEFENSE, not the offense, were the ones to go recruiting Wilson.

Defense must have been steaming last year every time they had to go back on the field after another 3 and out.

There was a lot of talk about bad attitudes in the locker room and not all of it was Dionte. The receivers and even Chuks had awful attitudes because they had no faith in the QB. Then that little bitch refused to dress when he was going to be a backup, and he had the balls to say he didn’t learn anything while on the sidelines. To top it off, he requested a trade when he found out he had to compete with a washed up Russell Wilson. That may be the worst part of it all. Even lil Ken knows he’s shit and can’t win a competition if it’s fair.

[K_C_]

Michael Penix Jr. time!!

Given your recent fandom history of QBs, how bout you sit this one out, champ!

I wasn’t a Pickett fan. I’ve said many times I wanted Malik
Willis in the draft. I rooted for Pickett though because the Steelers drafted him and wanted him to succeed. Knew a lot of the issues were Matt Canada/Tomlin’s philosophy based and Pickett couldn’t do anything about any of that.

Yes, I know. I didn’t say Brock Purdy was going to instantly become a star because he would be surrounded by a team with zero weaknesses like you did……oh wait, you didn’t say anything or the kind. You simply jumped on the Purdy bandwagon once he started playing well.

Who are you picking to come in and be an immediate star from this upcoming draft class after the top 4 QB’s are gone, oh Mr. QB Whisperer?

I look forward to your answer. Have to drive my daughter’s boyfriend to Miami airport now so I’ll read your QB predictions and analysis when I return.

I’m sure you’ll be right on the money regarding this new crop of signal callers.

[Steelperch]

Michael Penix Jr. time!!

Given your recent fandom history of QBs, how bout you sit this one out, champ!

Who are you picking to come in and be an immediate star from this upcoming draft class after the top 4 QB’s are gone, oh Mr. QB Whisperer?

Immediate star? Nobody, but Kenny Pickett set the bar so damn low, anyone with a pulse will be an upgrade. At least Joe Milton has an NFL arm and size. Rattler, Pratt and Travis all have athleticism and arm talent. We’re literally talking about mid round rookies coming in and being as good as our bust of a first round pick yet you still don’t see the problem with that. Damn receivers must’ve slipped.

[.Kodiak]

Damn receivers must’ve slipped.

Maybe Kenny will endear himself to the PHI receivers by buying them new cleats!

[Jobu]

....and I respect it.

I believe Pickett played pretty damn well as a rookie once he got his feet underneath him, but was a victim of Tomlin/Canada's ridiculously uber-conservative offense.

Don't make mistakes. Don't throw INT's. Take the checkdown. Be careful with the ball. If we have to punt 25 yards with Harvin, that's better than a mistake.

Pickett had natural gunslinger instincts that Tomlin and Canada completely removed. I definitely did not like what I saw last year from Pickett, but I wish him well and if he can regain his confidence, I still 100% believe he can be a very good NFL QB.

We'll see what happens.

I agree with you.

I’m Pickett agnostic. I always felt he got a raw deal because of who his coaches were in Pittsburgh. When the Steelers allowed Tomlin to keep Canada, I had a feeling Kenny was going to struggle last year. They choked the life out of him. I wish him well.

At least he’s away from the nightmare of Mike Tomlin. I hope Kenny gets a ring, even if it’s as a backup, and rubs it in Cam and TJ’s faces.

Teflon Tomlin’s excuses are all gone now. I wonder who everyone is going to blame now when the Steelers struggle this year?

Black coach, black QB...can’t criticize them. That would make you a rayciss!

Uh, oh... TJ, you’d better watch your back! They are coming for you!

Tomlin has his warts, but why in the ever-loving fuck would you take take sides with lil kenny over Tomlin?

@tbsteel You do realize your talking to Lynch…right?

[LakecrestSteeler]

The most shocking thing about Kengina is that the DEFENSE, not the offense, were the ones to go recruiting Wilson.

Defense must have been steaming last year every time they had to go back on the field after another 3 and out.

There was a lot of talk about bad attitudes in the locker room and not all of it was Dionte. The receivers and even Chuks had awful attitudes because they had no faith in the QB. Then that little bitch refused to dress when he was going to be a backup, and he had the balls to say he didn’t learn anything while on the sidelines. To top it off, he requested a trade when he found out he had to compete with a washed up Russell Wilson. That may be the worst part of it all. Even lil Ken knows he’s shit and can’t win a competition if it’s fair.

Now reports how Kenny lost the locker room last season. What revisionist BS.

Anyone watching knew Kenny never lost the locker room.

Tomlin was, and probably still is, smarting over the 400 yards gained the minute Canada was gone, completely putting egg on Mike T's face, and then Pickett gets hurt on the one yard line with an impressive quick drive the very next game. Jettisoning Rudolph, Pickett, and Mitch Trubisky just bundles up a complete clusterfuck created by Mike Tomlin's stubbornness over Matt Canada, which was probably over some Dino Tomlin scholarship.

Rudolph, Pickett, and Mitch Trubisky; all bundled up and flushed down the commode to hide the hideous truth that Mike Tomlin doesn't know a thing about about offensive NFL football, other than attrition and run out the clock bullshit he learned playing Madden.

We will still be left with Arthur Smith trying to control Mike Tomlin’s attrition football at the end of the day.