Per Schefter: Russell Wilson is a Steeler, signs one-year deal

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Re: Per Schefter: Russell Wilson is a Steeler, signs one-year deal

Post by gojira5150 » Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:13 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:32 pm
gojira5150 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:27 pm
Okie Dokie. Not a bad signing. Now with Arthur Smith at OC we can expect he same offense as the Titans. Thing is they use 2 TE sets frequently. IF, IF, IF Brock Bowers start to slip past 10, I hope they trade up and get him. That dude is awesome.
We have Muth and The Outlier

We are set

Plus it’s moot….he isn’t dropping and we aren’t going up to get a TE
Oh, I agree. There have been players who dropped, and you wonder why.


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Post by steelclan » Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:20 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:11 am
Who Dee Knee wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:22 am
I like the move. Wilson is signing a one year deal for the veteran minimum. We aren’t giving up any draft capital. Wilson also had more TD passes last year than the entire Steelers QBs in the last two years combined.

Wilson may not be the player he was before, but neither was Ben in ‘20 or ‘21, and he was light years better than anyone we have had since then.

Our team has had talent infused into it since Omar became GM. He doesn’t fuck around. We could actually be a force with another good draft and free agent class.

Let’s go into free agency getting a center, ILB (Patrick Queen?), and a SS.
You don't think Elandon Roberts played well? That's the type of LB Queen is. The issue the Steelers have is the two best cover LBs they've had in recent years both had catastrophic leg injuries last year. One may retire and the other is no sure thing to be ready for the season. I'd rather sign Jerome Baker a million times over than waste money on Patrick Queen. LB and Center are not spots where I would spend big $ if I could avoid it. SO many safeties who would be great and a glut in supply should be a decent price for an upgrade over 2023.

To me, signing even a solid but unspectacular starting outside CB (think Steven Nelson) or an upgrade at IDL would move the needle more than signings at LB & C.
Yep. Queen benefitted from an all pro next to him and a great defensive scheme. He will be grossly overpriced. Let a team with tons of cap space waste it on Queen.

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Post by steelclan » Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:21 pm

I do not like this at all.

This will more than likely keep PS in QB purgatory.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:26 pm

steelclan wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:21 pm
I do not like this at all.

This will more than likely keep PS in QB purgatory.
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:25 pm
This move is inarguably better than wasting draft picks on Fields and then having to sign him to a big C$2. It's better than paying Mason Rudolph $10M/per by bidding against ourselves. It's better than re-committing to another lost season with Kenny Pickett and then picking up his option year when he is marginally better than awful. It's better than signing Mayfield or Cousins to a long term deal for big money. It's better than reaching for a shit QB prospect at pick 20.

This move defines "it could be A LOT worse". It's not even the 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th-worst option.
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Post by Forty Three » Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:30 pm

This is fine until they decide to re-sign Wilson after the year instead of trading draft picks for a chance at a future franchise QB.

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Post by Deebo » Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:37 pm

Forty Three wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:30 pm
This is fine until they decide to re-sign Wilson after the year instead of trading draft picks for a chance at a future franchise QB.
This is my concern: what if Wilson blows up? What is his next contract going to look like? Will the Steelers have the balls to pick another R1 QB high and put him on the bench?

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Post by Stosh-67 » Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:41 pm

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@DP39 i don’t think they need to sign a C unless it is a great deal. They have the perfect C for the Srthur Smith offense playing RG right now and a competent backup in Herbig. They also have a couple of decent guys behind them.

Most of all: this center class in the draft is 🔥wonderful. A pick after rd 1 gets it done.
Will they bring in the guy who snapped to Wilson the last 2 years..........
Lloyd Cushenberry?
Probably too much money.

I think they have already fallen in love with a Center in the draft and have already filled out the draft card.

Will we draft a JPJ two years in a row? With our first round pick.
Or Zach Frazier or SVP in the second?

OT first...Mims. To RT....Broderick slides to LT
C in the second.
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Post by Forty Three » Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:42 pm

Deebo wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:37 pm
Forty Three wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:30 pm
This is fine until they decide to re-sign Wilson after the year instead of trading draft picks for a chance at a future franchise QB.
This is my concern: what if Wilson blows up? What is his next contract going to look like? Will the Steelers have the balls to pick another R1 QB high and put him on the bench?
I mean there's pretty much no chance he blows up, right?

But the offense was going to be better than last year no matter who the QB was because of Arthur Smith. So what if they win 11 games and make the playoffs and lose again?

It would be the most Steelers thing in the world to give Russ a two-year extension. That's my biggest fear with this. I can get over my hatred of Wilson if he plays well. But I can't shake the idea that he's going to get extended unless he's absolutely putrid.

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Post by Steeldrama » Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:44 pm

Baffling at the number of posters who don't like this move.

There are punters and even long snappers making more money.

It's an admission that Kenny is not the future.

If he gets an extension, it should in theory mean he had a good season.

Signing said extension doesn't preclude the Steelers from drafting a rookie QB from yet another reputedly deep '25 qb class.

Playing behind a veteran worked for Mahomes and Love etc.

Yep

Good signing.

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Post by Stosh-67 » Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:50 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:44 pm
Baffling at the number of posters who don't like this move.

There are punters and even long snappers making more money.

It's an admission that Kenny is not the future.

If he gets an extension, it should in theory mean he had a good season.

Signing said extension doesn't preclude the Steelers from drafting a rookie QB from yet another reputedly deep '25 qb class.

Playing behind a veteran worked for Mahomes and Love etc.

Yep

Good signing.

Now dazzle us in free agency and the draft, Khan-artist!
Yup.
No reason to think that if RW does have a big year and they resign him to a 2 year......that it would take drafting a QB in '25
Draft that QB in '25.

Add OL in this 2024 draft to build that line for the new kid.
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Post by Pabst » Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:58 pm

Guess I'll pop in to eat my crow on this subject.

I'll still say that Denver paying Russ $80m to walk away is a giant red flag. I'm not sold, but will be happy to get proven wrong.

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Post by Steelperch » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:03 pm

Pabst wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:58 pm
Guess I'll pop in to eat my crow on this subject.

I'll still say that Denver paying Russ $80m to walk away is a giant red flag. I'm not sold, but will be happy to get proven wrong.
Denver paid Wilson to win them Super Bowls and be a top 5 QB. That was a bad deal. We’re paying him so we don’t have to watch Clipboard Kenny Pickett suck up the whole season. Wilson is a transition QB here who is good enough to get the team to the playoffs and maybe win a game. He quickens the transition to our next franchise QB and assures we don’t muddle in Pickett hell for 5 years. It’s a great signing for that reason, plus it keeps a ton of cap space free to address the fact we have no punter, center, SS, CB or nickel CB on the roster right now.

If they trade Dionte Johnson away it’s an A+ off-season.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:03 pm

Pabst wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:58 pm
Guess I'll pop in to eat my crow on this subject.

I'll still say that Denver paying Russ $80m to walk away is a giant red flag. I'm not sold, but will be happy to get proven wrong.
But what’s the risk?

A Blutarsky. 0.0

If he doesn’t work out what did we lose?

If he does work out?

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Post by Steelperch » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:04 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:03 pm
Pabst wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:58 pm
Guess I'll pop in to eat my crow on this subject.

I'll still say that Denver paying Russ $80m to walk away is a giant red flag. I'm not sold, but will be happy to get proven wrong.
But what’s the risk?

A Blutarsky. 0.0

If he doesn’t work out what did we lose?

If he does work out?
This deal is so good it should take 10 jizz Mopper to clean up after.

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Post by Charles Demarr » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:11 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:44 pm
Baffling at the number of posters who don't like this move.

There are punters and even long snappers making more money.

It's an admission that Kenny is not the future.

If he gets an extension, it should in theory mean he had a good season.

Signing said extension doesn't preclude the Steelers from drafting a rookie QB from yet another reputedly deep '25 qb class.

Playing behind a veteran worked for Mahomes and Love etc.

Yep

Good signing.

Now dazzle us in free agency and the draft, Khan-artist!
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Post by Pabst » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:14 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:03 pm
If he doesn’t work out what did we lose?
An entire season?

I get what you and Perch are saying wrt to a cheap transition QB.

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Post by Orangesteel » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:34 pm

Klipboard Kenny has a nice ring to it.
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Post by Ice » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:37 pm

Pabst wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:58 pm
Guess I'll pop in to eat my crow on this subject.

I'll still say that Denver paying Russ $80m to walk away is a giant red flag. I'm not sold, but will be happy to get proven wrong.
While Wilson may be a weirdo and hard to get along with in Denver, getting him gone, added to the current Mile High fire sale, speaks to me that Denver's new ownership, GM, and Payton in taking the job, drastically overestimated being "a QB away from the Super Bowl" and are now engineering a face-saving (especially in Payton's case, his legacy as a coach is on the line in Denver, maybe moreso than Russ' was as a QB) rebuilding process. It's a more deeply messed up situation in Denver than just Russell Wilson.
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Post by Orangesteel » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:42 pm

Yep, Ice.

They weren’t going to be closer to a SB until they completely purge. The contract and the player, it was a package failure and the fan base and ownership is ready to call it an error and move on.

They are in rebuild mode. Steelers kinda refuse to be for the preservation of NHALS since the coach has an ego the size of the Titanic, but hey, RW for 1.21M is fine with me.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:43 pm

Pabst wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:14 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:03 pm
If he doesn’t work out what did we lose?
An entire season?

I get what you and Perch are saying wrt to a cheap transition QB.
Every other option available other than say firing Tomlin, replacing him with a real gotdamn offensive mind, and trading for Justin Herbert was going to cost AT LEAST a year.
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Post by Jtf » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:43 pm

Wilson is a weird dude and not popular with teamates. They are getting a qb for free. But to me this signals they are done with pickett. They are not even bringing in the type of guy that will mentor or set a good example. That would have been tannehill. Also you are going to have to mostly run rpo and heavy play action with wilson. Not sure this is best move for steelers. Is he better than pickett now? Ya, but basically you stay at 9-8 next year and then go draft a qb the following year. Next year is going to be a wasted year pretty much. Tougher schedule and trying to win games really close and low scoring. Maybe they are setting up for the next draft class for qbs. Weird move I think. Just because he is almost free doesn't make it a good move.

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Post by jebrick » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:46 pm

Forty Three wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:30 pm
This is fine until they decide to re-sign Wilson after the year instead of trading draft picks for a chance at a future franchise QB.
They are drafting a QB next year no matter what.
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Post by langer » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:47 pm

Will they run the kind of offense that is beneficial to an older QB?

Does he have more football smarts than Kenny Touchdown?

Is he a hangdog loser with a shit attitude like Mitch?

Can Coach Mike manage him better than Payton did, who seems like an utter prick. MAYBE.

I would love to see him be named the starter out of the gate. That wasn't going to happen with Mase, and maybe that's also what made the deal happen.

This season has the makings of a fine departure from last. I'm kinda optimistic.
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Post by Orangesteel » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:56 pm

Colbert did a lot of good for this franchise for a lot of years but MAN what the fuck was he thinking with drafting Pickett? Perhaps Art2’s influence on that pick was greater than we all realize (and many of us think he was very involved in not missing out on the next Dan Marino).

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Post by Jobu » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:58 pm

If this gets us past the Little Kenny era, that’s great, but it doesn’t move the needle much competitively.

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Post by Pabst » Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:04 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:43 pm
Pabst wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:14 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:03 pm
If he doesn’t work out what did we lose?
An entire season?

I get what you and Perch are saying wrt to a cheap transition QB.
Every other option available other than say firing Tomlin, replacing him with a real gotdamn offensive mind, and trading for Justin Herbert was going to cost AT LEAST a year.
My perspective is coming from spending most of my life in Cleveland or pre-Andy Reid Kansas City.

I get what you guys are saying, but I watched 2 franchises toil in shit for decades chasing after a franchise savior.

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Post by Deebo » Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:08 pm

jebrick wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:46 pm
Forty Three wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:30 pm
This is fine until they decide to re-sign Wilson after the year instead of trading draft picks for a chance at a future franchise QB.
They are drafting a QB next year no matter what.
Well I'll believe it when I see it.
I've got a ton of faith in the new FO vs the old one though....

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Post by jebrick » Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:15 pm

Deebo wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:08 pm
jebrick wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:46 pm
Forty Three wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:30 pm
This is fine until they decide to re-sign Wilson after the year instead of trading draft picks for a chance at a future franchise QB.
They are drafting a QB next year no matter what.
Well I'll believe it when I see it.
I've got a ton of faith in the new FO vs the old one though....
At the moment, i do not trust the Steeler "offensive minds" to identify a franchise QB and coach them up. Realizing that the Steelers have not had to do it for 20 years and the one chance they had it was blown. They need to show me something different
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Post by Stlcrtn1974 » Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:16 pm

steelclan wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:21 pm
I do not like this at all.

This will more than likely keep PS in QB purgatory.
Agreed.
Just heard on 93.7 the fan that Wilson was LAST in the league at throwing over the middle last season, 5.9%. Can't wait for another year of 2 yard pass patterns and 3rd and 1 sideline bombs.

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Post by Jams » Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:28 pm

Of course he signed here for the Vet minimum. Everyone on Earth knew it was going to happen for the past month. It's a no risk signing. Only people who hate this are Fans of Kenny Pickett (or Pitt) before they are Fans of the Steelers.

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