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Re: Go get Russell Wilson

Post by jewelsongs » Sun Mar 10, 2024 2:39 pm

Just say no to Wilson.



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Post by CKSteeler » Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:15 am

Steelers are caught in no-man's land where a guy like Wilson is too high profile and too threatening to Pickett whereas other options aren't real competition. Wilson's camp is worried he won't even get a fair chance at the starting job and Pickett's that he will be overshadowed.

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Post by Steelperch » Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:38 am

Steelers should look to trade Pickett for a punter. I’m not sure they could get the 6th round pick the Pats got for Mac Jones. Sign Russell Wilson and bring Rudolph back to compete for the top spot.

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Post by Steelperch » Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:40 am

CKSteeler wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:15 am
Steelers are caught in no-man's land where a guy like Wilson is too high profile and too threatening to Pickett whereas other options aren't real competition. Wilson's camp is worried he won't even get a fair chance at the starting job and Pickett's that he will be overshadowed.
There is zero chance Pickett beats our Russell Wilson in a fair open competition. Fucking zero. Russ may be old and declining, but he doesn’t have shitty pocket presence and awful accuracy.

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Post by Mick » Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:41 am

Schefter says wilson to pittsburgh is a done deal.

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Post by RemoAZ » Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:45 am

Never had a losing season and playoff winless streaks secured!
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Post by Orangesteel » Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:48 am

This is wildly unexpected.
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Post by Mick » Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:49 am

Orangesteel wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:48 am
This is wildly unexpected.
when it became him choosing between pittsburgh and the giants it started feeling pretty likely

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Post by rooneytunes » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:09 am

If he wins a playoff game he can be as corny as fuck
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Post by RemoAZ » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:12 am

I have to get off social media for a while. Seeing this loser in Boswell's jersey is making me sick. This organization continues to suck the joy out of the game for me. The only positive is "hopefully" the QB I saw last year that barely gave a fuck about playing is what it finally takes for the Rooneys to put the old man in a home and get this team's priorities back on track starting with a competent HC.
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Post by Steelersfan » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:13 am

BUCS just signed Baker Mayfield for 100 million. We got a pro bowl & super bowl experienced vet for a seasons worth of Hooters wings & Iron City beers. Not even a blip on the cap.

2 QB roster spots filled, two to go.

https://x.com/DangeRussWilson/status/17 ... 77728?s=20

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Post by stillthere » Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:47 am

Steelperch wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:42 pm
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Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:40 pm
My only 2 cents without reading beyond the first page is the only reason to sign him would be that you could get him for league minimum while Denver pays his salary.

Personally, I think he is done. Can he play football? Yes. Will he lead the Steelers to a Lombardi? Extremely doubtful.
The goal is NHALS, NHALS is the goal. Russ makes that damn near a lock. If he accidentally wins a playoff game or two it’s a bonus. I just would be way more entertained with Wilson at QB over Kenny Pickett.
I guess the competition begins.

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Post by anpsteel » Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:48 am

I am stunned


I guess the upside is, he’s better than Pickett or Trubisky.

And at least the staff has recognized Pickett isn’t going to be the guy

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:24 am

RemoAZ wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:12 am
I have to get off social media for a while. Seeing this loser in Boswell's jersey is making me sick. This organization continues to suck the joy out of the game for me. The only positive is "hopefully" the QB I saw last year that barely gave a fuck about playing is what it finally takes for the Rooneys to put the old man in a home and get this team's priorities back on track starting with a competent HC.
I don't necessarily agree with all your points, but on the idea of a bad season triggering a change in actual running of the team at the top, the Steelers changed after 1969 & 2003... the worst season in the history of the franchise and then as bad a season as they've had in the last 35 years.
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Post by Gonzo » Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:19 pm

RemoAZ wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:45 am
Never had a losing season and playoff winless streaks secured!
thats a bingo

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Post by Gonzo » Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:20 pm

Steelersfan wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:13 am
BUCS just signed Baker Mayfield for 100 million. We got a pro bowl & super bowl experienced vet for a seasons worth of Hooters wings & Iron City beers. Not even a blip on the cap.

2 QB roster spots filled, two to go.

https://x.com/DangeRussWilson/status/17 ... 77728?s=20
beacuse thats what he is worth

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Post by Gonzo » Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:22 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:24 am
RemoAZ wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:12 am
I have to get off social media for a while. Seeing this loser in Boswell's jersey is making me sick. This organization continues to suck the joy out of the game for me. The only positive is "hopefully" the QB I saw last year that barely gave a fuck about playing is what it finally takes for the Rooneys to put the old man in a home and get this team's priorities back on track starting with a competent HC.
I don't necessarily agree with all your points, but on the idea of a bad season triggering a change in actual running of the team at the top, the Steelers changed after 1969 & 2003... the worst season in the history of the franchise and then as bad a season as they've had in the last 35 years.
I agree with all of the points ;)

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Post by Gonzo » Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:38 pm

and this is what we are reduced to ....

on sgining wilson -- well, it cant get worse and maybe if he sucks, and the team sucks, the suck that owns the team wuill finally make a change.

But, he wont and we all know that

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:25 pm

Gonzo wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:38 pm
and this is what we are reduced to ....

on sgining wilson -- well, it cant get worse and maybe if he sucks, and the team sucks, the suck that owns the team wuill finally make a change.

But, he wont and we all know that
This move is inarguably better than wasting draft picks on Fields and then having to sign him to a big C$2. It's better than paying Mason Rudolph $10M/per by bidding against ourselves. It's better than re-committing to another lost season with Kenny Pickett and then picking up his option year when he is marginally better than awful. It's better than signing Mayfield or Cousins to a long term deal for big money. It's better than reaching for a shit QB prospect at pick 20.

This move defines "it could be A LOT worse". It's not even the 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th-worst option.
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Post by K_C_ » Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:11 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:25 pm
Gonzo wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:38 pm
and this is what we are reduced to ....

on sgining wilson -- well, it cant get worse and maybe if he sucks, and the team sucks, the suck that owns the team wuill finally make a change.

But, he wont and we all know that
This move is inarguably better than wasting draft picks on Fields and then having to sign him to a big C$2. It's better than paying Mason Rudolph $10M/per by bidding against ourselves. It's better than re-committing to another lost season with Kenny Pickett and then picking up his option year when he is marginally better than awful. It's better than signing Mayfield or Cousins to a long term deal for big money. It's better than reaching for a shit QB prospect at pick 20.

This move defines "it could be A LOT worse". It's not even the 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th-worst option.
I agree with most of your premise but I’ll say it again, Wilson is being paid close to 100 million not to play QB in Denver. Maybe he resurrects his career in Pittsburgh or maybe he becomes Mitch Trubisky all over again. We’ll see.

Personally, they are paying Wilson peanuts and this is a severe kick to the ass of one Kenny Pickett. If KP8 pouts and demands to be traded or something, get rid of his ass. If Kenny rises to the challenge, in a new offense with a real NFL level OC, I could. 100% see Pickett winning the job in camp.

This is not the Russell Wilson of like 2016 or something but if he’s an upgrade over Pickett this season, that’s great. Do I think it’s a given he will be? Absolutely not.
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Post by Gonzo » Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:15 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:25 pm
Gonzo wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:38 pm
and this is what we are reduced to ....

on sgining wilson -- well, it cant get worse and maybe if he sucks, and the team sucks, the suck that owns the team wuill finally make a change.

But, he wont and we all know that
This move is inarguably better than wasting draft picks on Fields and then having to sign him to a big C$2. It's better than paying Mason Rudolph $10M/per by bidding against ourselves. It's better than re-committing to another lost season with Kenny Pickett and then picking up his option year when he is marginally better than awful. It's better than signing Mayfield or Cousins to a long term deal for big money. It's better than reaching for a shit QB prospect at pick 20.

This move defines "it could be A LOT worse". It's not even the 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th-worst option.
you are assuming the reasons they did it. fields has nothing to do with this or cousins. and i don’t think it’s better than one last year with kenny - and it doesn’t mandate picking up any option. they haven’t made a correct decisions about QBs for a long time. and the other large problem is not the QB - so i remain unconvinced. this is more of the same

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Post by Gonzo » Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:21 pm

and i apologize now for my breakout of negativity …. it’s not that I do not understand the dollar value of this contract and the problem of kenny pickett.

it’s that I have a different view of the problem and this move is evidence of it and not a solution to it.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:38 pm

Gonzo wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:21 pm
and i apologize now for my breakout of negativity …. it’s not that I do not understand the dollar value of this contract and the problem of kenny pickett.

it’s that I have a different view of the problem and this move is evidence of it and not a solution to it.
Listen, if they had just said one more year of Kenny Pickett, there be too much temptation to trade for a Field, or pick a shit quarterback in the draft. This mitigates the risk of that happening a lot.
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Post by Gonzo » Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:43 pm

so why does this preclude that - you seem to be assuming they will draft a good QB next year ? at the end of 24 season it is just the same situation with the chance of resigning wilson in the equation

and all this assumes wilson isn’t the back up

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Post by Gonzo » Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:54 pm

i should state my position better

as a purely practical move signing a vet for 1.2m as competition. a safety net and/or a back-up is fine.

being happy about the state of steeler affairs and thinking wilson in any way moves the needle i disagree with.

with him or kenny at the helm they will do what they do and we will get what we get. and at the end of the 24 season this will all happen again and we will not opt to rebuild. and worst yet if they get NHALS with wilson at the helm they may sign him.

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Post by RemoAZ » Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:11 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:38 pm
Gonzo wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:21 pm
and i apologize now for my breakout of negativity …. it’s not that I do not understand the dollar value of this contract and the problem of kenny pickett.

it’s that I have a different view of the problem and this move is evidence of it and not a solution to it.
Listen, if they had just said one more year of Kenny Pickett, there be too much temptation to trade for a Field, or pick a shit quarterback in the draft. This mitigates the risk of that happening a lot.
My first thought is I'd rather they take a QB somewhere after they take a center in the first. Then I remember Mike Tomlin is at the helm and realize it doesn't matter. We'll get more of the same no matter what. I just hope Wilson drags Mediocre Mike out the door.
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Post by Orangesteel » Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:16 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:25 pm
Gonzo wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:38 pm
and this is what we are reduced to ....

on sgining wilson -- well, it cant get worse and maybe if he sucks, and the team sucks, the suck that owns the team wuill finally make a change.

But, he wont and we all know that
This move is inarguably better than wasting draft picks on Fields and then having to sign him to a big C$2. It's better than paying Mason Rudolph $10M/per by bidding against ourselves. It's better than re-committing to another lost season with Kenny Pickett and then picking up his option year when he is marginally better than awful. It's better than signing Mayfield or Cousins to a long term deal for big money. It's better than reaching for a shit QB prospect at pick 20.

This move defines "it could be A LOT worse". It's not even the 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th-worst option.
This is exactly where I am at and I’ve spent a lot of time over the last 10 years or so hating on Wilson. What else were we going to do? I’m just elated that the Fields move didn’t happen. I thought for sure that Tomlin would make a run at him and attempt to play “QB Whisperer” resulting in a total failure.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:38 pm

Gonzo wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:54 pm
i should state my position better

as a purely practical move signing a vet for 1.2m as competition. a safety net and/or a back-up is fine.

being happy about the state of steeler affairs and thinking wilson in any way moves the needle i disagree with.

with him or kenny at the helm they will do what they do and we will get what we get. and at the end of the 24 season this will all happen again and we will not opt to rebuild. and worst yet if they get NHALS with wilson at the helm they may sign him.
Oh I doubt seriously anything significant will change. Tomlin will still load up on expensive defensive talent/high picks, run the bejeezus out of the ball, play to win 16-13, win a lot of regular season games, get shellacked in the postseason.

It's remotely possible another season like that could shake the apple tree a little, and it certainly would seem to lead to drafting a QB in 2025, which I think could be a huge plus.
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