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Claypool - Lots of trade talk today

Post by RemoAZ » Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:48 pm

REPORT – Packers Aggressively Trying To Acquire Steelers Chase Claypool Ahead Of November 1 Trade Deadline
https://www.steelernation.com/steelers- ... de-rumors/

RUMOR: Could the Packers trade for Steelers’ Chase Claypool to help out Aaron Rodgers?
https://clutchpoints.com/packers-rumors ... n-rodgers/

Report: Packers 'all in' trying to get Chase Claypool
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Saunders: Trading Chase Claypool Doesn’t Make Much Sense for Steelers
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Post by DP39 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:10 pm

I heard rumors of this earlier this week.

If it happens, what do you take/ask for in return?

A 2nd or 1st?

A player? ILB: De'Vondre Campbell or Quay Walker maybe? DB: Eric Stokes or Rasul Douglas maybe?

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Post by jebrick » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:12 pm

Are they going to give the Steelers a 2nd? Rashan Gary perhaps? Quay Walker?
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Post by DP39 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:27 pm

jebrick wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:12 pm
Are they going to give the Steelers a 2nd? Rashan Gary perhaps? Quay Walker?
If it's true that GB is truly hot for Chase, then you ask for/get a premium, imo.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:30 pm

They’re not trading Walker for Claypool

Not happening

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Post by steelclan » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:32 pm

DP39 wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:27 pm
jebrick wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:12 pm
Are they going to give the Steelers a 2nd? Rashan Gary perhaps? Quay Walker?
If it's true that GB is truly hot for Chase, then you ask for/get a premium, imo.
Yep because who else can packers trade for? DJ Moore just signed an extension with Panthers is only other player that looks like a possibility.

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Post by Kodiak. » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:37 pm

An R1 or R2 for Claypool is an absolute pipe dream. If GB offers what is likely a late R3, PIT should be all over it.

I can see NHALS reluctant to make this trade since we probably lose to TB without Claypool, and there could be another game like that down the road if Claypool decides to play that day.
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Post by DP39 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:48 pm

steelclan wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:32 pm
DP39 wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:27 pm
jebrick wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:12 pm
Are they going to give the Steelers a 2nd? Rashan Gary perhaps? Quay Walker?
If it's true that GB is truly hot for Chase, then you ask for/get a premium, imo.
Yep because who else can packers trade for? DJ Moore just signed an extension with Panthers is only other player that looks like a possibility.
Yep. Supply and demand. Again, IF GB is VERY hot for Chase (and only IF), they pay what the market demands or they don't and he stay's in PGH. Under these conditions, we would be in the driver seat in this negotiation -- simple as that.

Now, if we were desperately trying to move Chase, this would be a different story.

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Post by langer » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:50 pm

He deserves at least a 9th and a 10th rounder nine outta ten times IMO
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Post by yygy » Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:21 pm

Too bad Austin 3 hasn’t seen the field. Then you’d know.

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I have no qualms about moving him
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Post by K_C_ » Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:33 pm

Kodiak. wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:37 pm
An R1 or R2 for Claypool is an absolute pipe dream. If GB offers what is likely a late R3, PIT should be all over it.

I can see NHALS reluctant to make this trade since we probably lose to TB without Claypool, and there could be another game like that down the road if Claypool decides to play that day.
Why would you only accept a 3rd rounder for a top 3 receiver in the NFL?
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:42 pm

Kodiak. wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:37 pm
An R1 or R2 for Claypool is an absolute pipe dream. If GB offers what is likely a late R3, PIT should be all over it.

I can see NHALS reluctant to make this trade since we probably lose to TB without Claypool, and there could be another game like that down the road if Claypool decides to play that day.
I disagree completely, and I’m one who is super realistic about who Claypool is. Look at Deebo Samuel’s’ stats and then Claypool’s. They are extremely comparable, especially if you use the beginning of Deebo’s career. The offer for Deebo was the 10th overall pick PLUS a mid-rounder. On top of that, Claypool likely brings you a 3rd comp down the road. I don’t even acknowledge an offer until it gets at least to a quality 2nd.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:44 pm

Kodiak. wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:37 pm
An R1 or R2 for Claypool is an absolute pipe dream. If GB offers what is likely a late R3, PIT should be all over it.

I can see NHALS reluctant to make this trade since we probably lose to TB without Claypool, and there could be another game like that down the road if Claypool decides to play that day.
There have only been two of those in 2.5 seasons, so Claypool being vital to a win seems like a longshot for another season or so.
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Post by Rod & Wire Mill » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:04 pm

1st or2nd and a decent player at any level of the defense would be great

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Post by Kodiak. » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:06 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:42 pm
Claypool likely brings you a 3rd comp down the road.
Put down the crack pipe. R5 at best. Not to mention, PIT will probably be signing other FA's with the cap space they have not paying a franchise QB. So likely 0 comp for Claypool.

Comparing him to Deebo is dishonest at best. Claypool was good for his first 10 games as a rookie. Been trending down and hot garbage since. You're high if you think teams are comparing career stats vs. where a guy has been the last few years and where he's trending.

You don't want to part with him for less than an R2? Fine, then you'll get nothing for him. A guy that could very well be heading to the bench soon if Austin is half as good as people think he can be.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:43 pm

Kodiak. wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:06 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:42 pm
Claypool likely brings you a 3rd comp down the road.
Put down the crack pipe. R5 at best. Not to mention, PIT will probably be signing other FA's with the cap space they have not paying a franchise QB. So likely 0 comp for Claypool.

Comparing him to Deebo is dishonest at best. Claypool was good for his first 10 games as a rookie. Been trending down and hot garbage since. You're high if you think teams are comparing career stats vs. where a guy has been the last few years and where he's trending.

You don't want to part with him for less than an R2? Fine, then you'll get nothing for him. A guy that could very well be heading to the bench soon if Austin is half as good as people think he can be.
I love Austin. But. There aren't a lot of size/weight/speed WRs EVER available on the market. Especially not ones you can use in the run game and in various ways. The fact that he plays in the worst and least creative offensive system in football is a fact EVERYONE in the league knows. He may never live up to his reputation but I guarantee if he gets moved that he'll be way better than he was here.

And I don't have to be disingenuous to compare him to Deebo. That's how a west coast or creative team would use him. That is his comp, especially when you look at where Deebo was at the same time in his career.

Look at it this way: the consensus in the league is that 11 was hurt by Ben, then hurt by a conservative and generally asinine offensive scheme and playcalling/usage for him. His perceived value is way higher around the league than it is here, and that was true even before he had a huge week. He'll probably have a big game vs Miami, too-- their pass defense is lame-- and one more big game before the trade deadline would solidify the confirmation bias regarding his ascendency.
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Post by stairway 2 seven » Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:30 pm

So far the Packers have offered a 4th rounder for him I would take a third. Something tells me Tomlin won't trade him because he's worried about his nhals streak coming to an end and he wants all hands on deck.

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Post by K_C_ » Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:32 pm

Kodiak. wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:06 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:42 pm
Claypool likely brings you a 3rd comp down the road.
Put down the crack pipe. R5 at best. Not to mention, PIT will probably be signing other FA's with the cap space they have not paying a franchise QB. So likely 0 comp for Claypool.

Comparing him to Deebo is dishonest at best. Claypool was good for his first 10 games as a rookie. Been trending down and hot garbage since. You're high if you think teams are comparing career stats vs. where a guy has been the last few years and where he's trending.

You don't want to part with him for less than an R2? Fine, then you'll get nothing for him. A guy that could very well be heading to the bench soon if Austin is half as good as people think he can be.
I think Claypool is a dick, but after last Sunday where he truly showed that he can be that star receiver he showed everybody he was as a rookie, fuck it. May Green Bay pay dearly for him or keep him.

Green Bay is desperate. Their season is completely falling apart. Rodgers, like Brady, looks about ready to retire. if they don't want to give you a second rounder for Claypool, then tell them to suck your dick.

Why help Green Bay and let them have him for a 5th? Fuck that.

A few weeks ago, I would have probably given Claypool away but after Sunday, shit has changed. I'm sure the Green Bay front office is salivating watching that game tape.

If they want Claypool, pay up big or keep the asshole.
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Post by o'donnell » Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:15 pm

They're desperate for sure. I'd ask for a 1rst.

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Post by alancac98 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:02 am

Wait, Claypool was a 2nd round pick. If he goes to Green Bay, he may very well light it up bigtime. Hell, if we had even a decent OC, Claypool would be lighting it up. His combination of size and speed doesn't come around very often. I would demand their 1 or they can go elsewhere. A 4th round offer is just embarrassing! He can ride the pine if he goes back to sucking rather than taking a 4th. The Steelers need to stop giving guys away for nothing and demanding top compensation. When we got Claypool, he was thought of as one of the steals of the draft and should've been a round 1 pick. I'll admit he looks like a bust in this offence, but if Haley or Arians was still the OC, he sure as hell wouldn't! It's a matter of do they "really" want him, then pay out your nose for him!

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Post by 955876 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:19 am

I think we should focus on getting coaches that know how to use offensive weapons but that’s just me.

I do t think I’d resign hun to big money but at the same time I’m not giving him away for no 4th round pick.

That just isn’t good value.

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Post by langer » Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:30 am

If a real coach who hasn't gone out of his way to piss everyone off could grab Claypool and give him coaching, like coaches do, and teach him, like coaches do, perhaps the 9/10 brain of Claypool would turn on and he would get his act together.

But this is the Coach Mike clownshow.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:40 am

Ben2Ken wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:15 pm
They're desperate for sure. I'd ask for a 1rst.
Sure you can ask….but

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Post by o'donnell » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:30 am

Yeah, I'd make em sweat it till the last minute and see what they come back with.
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:42 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:43 pm
Kodiak. wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:06 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:42 pm
Claypool likely brings you a 3rd comp down the road.
Put down the crack pipe. R5 at best. Not to mention, PIT will probably be signing other FA's with the cap space they have not paying a franchise QB. So likely 0 comp for Claypool.

Comparing him to Deebo is dishonest at best. Claypool was good for his first 10 games as a rookie. Been trending down and hot garbage since. You're high if you think teams are comparing career stats vs. where a guy has been the last few years and where he's trending.

You don't want to part with him for less than an R2? Fine, then you'll get nothing for him. A guy that could very well be heading to the bench soon if Austin is half as good as people think he can be.
I love Austin. But. There aren't a lot of size/weight/speed WRs EVER available on the market. Especially not ones you can use in the run game and in various ways. The fact that he plays in the worst and least creative offensive system in football is a fact EVERYONE in the league knows. He may never live up to his reputation but I guarantee if he gets moved that he'll be way better than he was here.

And I don't have to be disingenuous to compare him to Deebo. That's how a west coast or creative team would use him. That is his comp, especially when you look at where Deebo was at the same time in his career.

Look at it this way: the consensus in the league is that 11 was hurt by Ben, then hurt by a conservative and generally asinine offensive scheme and playcalling/usage for him. His perceived value is way higher around the league than it is here, and that was true even before he had a huge week. He'll probably have a big game vs Miami, too-- their pass defense is lame-- and one more big game before the trade deadline would solidify the confirmation bias regarding his ascendency.
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Post by RemoAZ » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:55 am

49ers traded a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th for Christian McCaffrey.
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Post by Orangesteel » Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:23 am

Claypool isn’t lighting it up in Green Bay. He’s not that kind of receiver. Now Pickens? Whoa dude is wildly talented. Problem is we don’t have anyone here that can get him the ball.

I like that Pickett at least wants to get Pickens the ball.
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Post by jebrick » Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:21 am

RemoAZ wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:55 am
49ers traded a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th for Christian McCaffrey.
Carolina fleeced them for a RB that might play 8 games a year
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Post by ToddHaleysNineIron » Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:53 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:42 pm
Claypool likely brings you a 3rd comp down the road.
This is the main point, if you don't plan on signing him, the ask has to be more than this otherwise it's not worth it.
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Post by Thrillsseeker » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:08 pm

jebrick wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:21 am
RemoAZ wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:55 am
49ers traded a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th for Christian McCaffrey.
Carolina fleeced them for a RB that might play 8 games a year
Sure did.That haul is unbelievable!

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