KC, it’s not a dream and I’m not a Ben fanboi but I realize there are only 15-20 men on earth who can play QB in the nfl at a high level and Ben is one of them. The Steelers would be idiots to let him go. But then there is the Deuce and that’s why I think he will play elsewhere next year. Anyway, the bet is on!!K_C_ wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:19 pm![]()
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The Steelers trade TJ Watt for the number one pick to the Jags. Get Kenny. And draft for Watt’s replacement in the second.
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Went with the doesn't matter with Tomlin option. Think we will get a lower tier free agent to compete with Mason and with our Oline will see 2 or 3 jag qbs start throughout the season. Will still finish 7-7-3 keeping th .500 or better narrative and mid draft positions intact Obviously.
Dude……it’s blasphemy to say at this point but it’s still the truth. Ben had some great moments and flashes this year mixed in with some very average and below average play. Ben didn’t consistently play at anything approaching a high level this year and that’s why he’s done. I mean, c’mon.Baltostiller wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:41 amKC, it’s not a dream and I’m not a Ben fanboi but I realize there are only 15-20 men on earth who can play QB in the nfl at a high level and Ben is one of them. The Steelers would be idiots to let him go. But then there is the Deuce and that’s why I think he will play elsewhere next year. Anyway, the bet is on!!
Mahomes, Rodgers, Burrow, Herbert, Stafford and maybe a few other dudes are playing QB at a high level. Ben isn’t that anymore. He knows it and Ben will begin his wait for induction.
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Mahomes has been figured out, Rodgers is only a year younger than Ben, Burrow and Herbert have yet to prove anything in a big game. Stafford has put up numbers with no big wins. Ben is still better than all of them if he doesn’t have the anvil around his neck that is Tomlin. He will go somewhere else and light it up. The bet is on.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:29 amDude……it’s blasphemy to say at this point but it’s still the truth. Ben had some great moments and flashes this year mixed in with some very average and below average play. Ben didn’t consistently play at anything approaching a high level this year and that’s why he’s done. I mean, c’mon.Baltostiller wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:41 amKC, it’s not a dream and I’m not a Ben fanboi but I realize there are only 15-20 men on earth who can play QB in the nfl at a high level and Ben is one of them. The Steelers would be idiots to let him go. But then there is the Deuce and that’s why I think he will play elsewhere next year. Anyway, the bet is on!!
Mahomes, Rodgers, Burrow, Herbert, Stafford and maybe a few other dudes are playing QB at a high level. Ben isn’t that anymore. He knows it and Ben will begin his wait for induction.
You’re not a Ben fanboi but you unload THIS load of horseshit?Baltostiller wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:14 amMahomes has been figured out, Rodgers is only a year younger than Ben, Burrow and Herbert have yet to prove anything in a big game. Stafford has put up numbers with no big wins. Ben is still better than all of them if he doesn’t have the anvil around his neck that is Tomlin. He will go somewhere else and light it up. The bet is on.
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I'm hoping for Haskins & the subsequent top 3 pick in the 2023 draft for QB.
I'm not saying it's what I'd do, I'm saying it's what Tombert will do.
Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile...
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Prove me wrong. Rodgers has shit the bed in the playoffs. He won SB XLV because the Steelers rolled out the worst o line in history and Mendenhall couldn’t hold on to the fucking ball. Burrow, Herbert and Stanford haven’t done shit. Prove me wrong.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:19 amYou’re not a Ben fanboi but you unload THIS load of horseshit?Baltostiller wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:14 amMahomes has been figured out, Rodgers is only a year younger than Ben, Burrow and Herbert have yet to prove anything in a big game. Stafford has put up numbers with no big wins. Ben is still better than all of them if he doesn’t have the anvil around his neck that is Tomlin. He will go somewhere else and light it up. The bet is on.
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You’re living in the past and I’m honestly scared for you.Baltostiller wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:51 amProve me wrong. Rodgers has shit the bed in the playoffs. He won SB XLV because the Steelers rolled out the worst o line in history and Mendenhall couldn’t hold on to the fucking ball. Burrow, Herbert and Stanford haven’t done shit. Prove me wrong.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:19 amYou’re not a Ben fanboi but you unload THIS load of horseshit?Baltostiller wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:14 amMahomes has been figured out, Rodgers is only a year younger than Ben, Burrow and Herbert have yet to prove anything in a big game. Stafford has put up numbers with no big wins. Ben is still better than all of them if he doesn’t have the anvil around his neck that is Tomlin. He will go somewhere else and light it up. The bet is on.
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You’re saying Ben is still the best QB in the league.
Gotta give you credit. This stuff takes the cake.
You definitely deserve some kind of prize.
"...It's very difficult to keep the line between the past and the present... Do you know what I mean...?"
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It's too soon to say Burrow and Herbert can't have success in the playoffs. Their teams are only now getting good. They are both very good QB's. I will give you Stafford. I don't think he's going to have success even on a loaded Rams team. Rodgers is also, of course, very good.Baltostiller wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:51 amProve me wrong. Rodgers has shit the bed in the playoffs. He won SB XLV because the Steelers rolled out the worst o line in history and Mendenhall couldn’t hold on to the fucking ball. Burrow, Herbert and Stanford haven’t done shit. Prove me wrong.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:19 amYou’re not a Ben fanboi but you unload THIS load of horseshit?Baltostiller wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:14 amMahomes has been figured out, Rodgers is only a year younger than Ben, Burrow and Herbert have yet to prove anything in a big game. Stafford has put up numbers with no big wins. Ben is still better than all of them if he doesn’t have the anvil around his neck that is Tomlin. He will go somewhere else and light it up. The bet is on.
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I never said Ben is the best QB in the league. I would still argue regular season Rodgers is better as is Brady. I was replying to your comments on Herbert, Burrow and Stafford. I’d take Ben every fucking day of the week over those stiffs as they have shown nothing in games that count.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:56 amYou’re living in the past and I’m honestly scared for you.Baltostiller wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:51 amProve me wrong. Rodgers has shit the bed in the playoffs. He won SB XLV because the Steelers rolled out the worst o line in history and Mendenhall couldn’t hold on to the fucking ball. Burrow, Herbert and Stanford haven’t done shit. Prove me wrong.
You’re saying Ben is still the best QB in the league.
Gotta give you credit. This stuff takes the cake.
You definitely deserve some kind of prize.
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Voted Mediocre FA. Actually think it will be Winston or Mariota. Tomlin wants someone mobile.
I voted Rudolph.
Sign a FA LT Orlando Brown jr.,Armstead, or Cam Robinson, sign DT Akeem Hicks.
Draft :
1.OC LINDERBAUM
2.OG KINNARD
3.SS
4.DT
5.WR
6.RB
7.TE
7B.CB
I think Tomlin will push hard for Rogers, or Wilson, so he wont be exposed to non Steeler fans as the fraud he is.
Sign a FA LT Orlando Brown jr.,Armstead, or Cam Robinson, sign DT Akeem Hicks.
Draft :
1.OC LINDERBAUM
2.OG KINNARD
3.SS
4.DT
5.WR
6.RB
7.TE
7B.CB
I think Tomlin will push hard for Rogers, or Wilson, so he wont be exposed to non Steeler fans as the fraud he is.
Been a long time since Ben showed something in a game that counted.Baltostiller wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:04 amI never said Ben is the best QB in the league. I would still argue regular season Rodgers is better as is Brady. I was replying to your comments on Herbert, Burrow and Stafford. I’d take Ben every fucking day of the week over those stiffs as they have shown nothing in games that count.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:56 amYou’re living in the past and I’m honestly scared for you.Baltostiller wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:51 am
Prove me wrong. Rodgers has shit the bed in the playoffs. He won SB XLV because the Steelers rolled out the worst o line in history and Mendenhall couldn’t hold on to the fucking ball. Burrow, Herbert and Stanford haven’t done shit. Prove me wrong.
You’re saying Ben is still the best QB in the league.
Gotta give you credit. This stuff takes the cake.
You definitely deserve some kind of prize.
Nobody in their right mind would still take Ben over any of the other 3 QB’s you just mentioned.
Nobody.
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HUGE Ben fan as I have posted many times.
Balto, based on what you said, you are telling everyone that Rodgers DID NOT PLAY WELL ENOUGH to win, and that it was our o-line's fault along with Mendy's awful fumble?
Nothing at all to do with our defense? That day our defense was fucking AWFUL, and Rodgers owned us basically the entire game until we made a little run late. Ugh, I can see Nelson and Jennings wide the fuck open....
Balto, based on what you said, you are telling everyone that Rodgers DID NOT PLAY WELL ENOUGH to win, and that it was our o-line's fault along with Mendy's awful fumble?
Nothing at all to do with our defense? That day our defense was fucking AWFUL, and Rodgers owned us basically the entire game until we made a little run late. Ugh, I can see Nelson and Jennings wide the fuck open....
It’s a valid option.
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Yeah, Rodgers was throwing lasers that game. The Packers receivers had several awful drops that kept the Steelers in the game. It would have been a blow-out otherwise. The Steelers D was just past its prime, the O needed Santonio, and Pouncey's injury was too much for the O-line to overcome.Minkah'n Big Plays wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:45 pmHUGE Ben fan as I have posted many times.
Balto, based on what you said, you are telling everyone that Rodgers DID NOT PLAY WELL ENOUGH to win, and that it was our o-line's fault along with Mendy's awful fumble?
Nothing at all to do with our defense? That day our defense was fucking AWFUL, and Rodgers owned us basically the entire game until we made a little run late. Ugh, I can see Nelson and Jennings wide the fuck open....
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Great recollection, W & M. Many drops or his numbers are better.W&M_Steeler wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:48 pmYeah, Rodgers was throwing lasers that game. The Packers receivers had several awful drops that kept the Steelers in the game. It would have been a blow-out otherwise. The Steelers D was just past its prime, the O needed Santonio, and Pouncey's injury was too much for the O-line to overcome.Minkah'n Big Plays wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:45 pmHUGE Ben fan as I have posted many times.
Balto, based on what you said, you are telling everyone that Rodgers DID NOT PLAY WELL ENOUGH to win, and that it was our o-line's fault along with Mendy's awful fumble?
Nothing at all to do with our defense? That day our defense was fucking AWFUL, and Rodgers owned us basically the entire game until we made a little run late. Ugh, I can see Nelson and Jennings wide the fuck open....
Thanks KC saved me a lot of typingK_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:46 amBeen a long time since Ben showed something in a game that counted.Baltostiller wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:04 amI never said Ben is the best QB in the league. I would still argue regular season Rodgers is better as is Brady. I was replying to your comments on Herbert, Burrow and Stafford. I’d take Ben every fucking day of the week over those stiffs as they have shown nothing in games that count.
Nobody in their right mind would still take Ben over any of the other 3 QB’s you just mentioned.
Nobody.
I think it gets answered after the draft. If a QB we love falls to us unexpectedly (could say that about Ben falling to 11) they take the prospect and go into next season with Rudolph and prospect and use Rudolph as a place holder if necessary. If more value is available at other positions load up there (both lines) and maybe take a shot at a failed high draft choice, Darnold?? without significant investment in money/draft capitol etc. If lightning in a bottle does not materialize then 2023 draft look for future QB
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I like a lot about what Colbert is done, but I don’t want Tomlin anywhere near the next franchise QB this team selects in the draft.stinger8 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:53 pmI think it gets answered after the draft. If a QB we love falls to us unexpectedly (could say that about Ben falling to 11) they take the prospect and go into next season with Rudolph and prospect and use Rudolph as a place holder if necessary. If more value is available at other positions load up there (both lines) and maybe take a shot at a failed high draft choice, Darnold?? without significant investment in money/draft capitol etc. If lightning in a bottle does not materialize then 2023 draft look for future QB
They had a first round grade on Mason. Remember?
It’s very possible our next franchise QB is still a freshman in college; hell even younger. This could take YEARS and likely will given the team has massive holes and very little depth. You likely won’t attract a good FA QB here because of how bad our line is.
I expect a castoff QB like Menshew or Mariota. Mariota is only 28 years old (which is wild). Maybe he finds some magic in the Burgh and has his moment after being a dud much of his career. I never felt he was a great QB. But we are in for years of suck so who knows, might be interesting to watch.
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So far, Mason Rudolph or Who gives a shit are running away with this thing.
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I'd wager I've seen more draft-eligible QBs play over the last two years when I got serious about it, and that I've watched more of those guys than basically any amateur and many pro draftniks.stinger8 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:53 pmI think it gets answered after the draft. If a QB we love falls to us unexpectedly (could say that about Ben falling to 11) they take the prospect and go into next season with Rudolph and prospect and use Rudolph as a place holder if necessary. If more value is available at other positions load up there (both lines) and maybe take a shot at a failed high draft choice, Darnold?? without significant investment in money/draft capitol etc. If lightning in a bottle does not materialize then 2023 draft look for future QB
If there's a QB they are in love with that falls to them in Rd1... they don't deserve to be NFL professional evaluators.
There are a handful of good QBs with major flaws, one of whom on day 3 or as a UDFA would be an interesting lottery ticket/upgrade as backup.
That's pretty much it. The guys I was intrigued about either got progressively worse in 2022 or returned to school or both.
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I can see it breaking along lines of the personalities of the players.
Deuce: they get Rodgers. Move like that plus whatever AR’s demands are would take a decision from the top. My preferred scenario too.
Don’t underestimate pressure from the silent owners or other corners of fandom. Steelers scored a merch deal down in Mexico. They need to generate revenue. Yes current fan base might be large but they need kids getting excited about this team or they could slowly slide into oblivion.
Tomlin: on record as wanting an FA but gotta feel tomlin is split on this. AR totally overshadows tomlin… that could be a good thing for a guy who likes to conserve his energy. Tomlin is ok with the tier 2 guys too. He’s probably fine with any qb. But with AR they coast to 10 wins. Very mike tomlin Steelers.
Colbert: think he wants to go young. He knows how to add trophies to the case. Only question there is desire. I thought for a while he might walk away when Ben is. Does he love the team, does he love his job? Or comfy retirement?
My hope is packers get bounced from playoffs and their gm makes a smart ass comment to him in the hall and AR is gone. Only a couple teams he’ll play for. Apparently his mushroom tea has him believing tomlin can take a team all the way. So he and devante adams put on the b&g.
Deuce: they get Rodgers. Move like that plus whatever AR’s demands are would take a decision from the top. My preferred scenario too.
Don’t underestimate pressure from the silent owners or other corners of fandom. Steelers scored a merch deal down in Mexico. They need to generate revenue. Yes current fan base might be large but they need kids getting excited about this team or they could slowly slide into oblivion.
Tomlin: on record as wanting an FA but gotta feel tomlin is split on this. AR totally overshadows tomlin… that could be a good thing for a guy who likes to conserve his energy. Tomlin is ok with the tier 2 guys too. He’s probably fine with any qb. But with AR they coast to 10 wins. Very mike tomlin Steelers.
Colbert: think he wants to go young. He knows how to add trophies to the case. Only question there is desire. I thought for a while he might walk away when Ben is. Does he love the team, does he love his job? Or comfy retirement?
My hope is packers get bounced from playoffs and their gm makes a smart ass comment to him in the hall and AR is gone. Only a couple teams he’ll play for. Apparently his mushroom tea has him believing tomlin can take a team all the way. So he and devante adams put on the b&g.
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Tomlin is a joke so all good.
"Jack Lambert is mean and relentless wherever he goes, on and off the field! I do remember many times he would chase me in practice, but no way would I let him catch me" - Franco Harris
Rodgers isn't an imbecile.yygy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:22 pmI can see it breaking along lines of the personalities of the players.
Deuce: they get Rodgers. Move like that plus whatever AR’s demands are would take a decision from the top. My preferred scenario too.
Don’t underestimate pressure from the silent owners or other corners of fandom. Steelers scored a merch deal down in Mexico. They need to generate revenue. Yes current fan base might be large but they need kids getting excited about this team or they could slowly slide into oblivion.
Tomlin: on record as wanting an FA but gotta feel tomlin is split on this. AR totally overshadows tomlin… that could be a good thing for a guy who likes to conserve his energy. Tomlin is ok with the tier 2 guys too. He’s probably fine with any qb. But with AR they coast to 10 wins. Very mike tomlin Steelers.
Colbert: think he wants to go young. He knows how to add trophies to the case. Only question there is desire. I thought for a while he might walk away when Ben is. Does he love the team, does he love his job? Or comfy retirement?
My hope is packers get bounced from playoffs and their gm makes a smart ass comment to him in the hall and AR is gone. Only a couple teams he’ll play for. Apparently his mushroom tea has him believing tomlin can take a team all the way. So he and devante adams put on the b&g.
He isn't coming to Pittsburgh to play with this o-line and this receiving corps. Our defense isn't as good as Green Bay's and the coaching staff for the Packers shits all over ours.
Absolutely NO CHANCE he would agree to a trade to Pittsburgh.
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I agree about Rodgers. This is an impressive GB team, probably better than the one that won the SB in 2010.
Offense is balanced and explosive. Running game is great. But most of all, their defense is legit.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Rodgers wins a ring this year then retires. Settled down with Shailene and has kids. Makes endorsement money and golfs. Nice way to retire at 39.
Offense is balanced and explosive. Running game is great. But most of all, their defense is legit.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Rodgers wins a ring this year then retires. Settled down with Shailene and has kids. Makes endorsement money and golfs. Nice way to retire at 39.
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Exactly…
…AND YET there are still posters who believe Ben is coming back
Won’t be getting a ring of course but Ben loves golf (who in their right mind doesn’t)!
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