Steelers SBI Simplified

[bradshaw2ben]

In the (somewhat unlikely) event the Steelers win Monday night's game vs. the Browns, they might be in position where they are "win and in" for Week 18's matchup with the Baltimore Ravens.

So, if you want a relatively stress-free Week 18, and you're of the mindset that you'd like your Pittsburgh Steelers to make the playoffs... here's what you need in Week 17:

Obviously, the most simple path to the playoffs is for Cincinnati to lose out while the Steelers win out. So:
KC over CIN.

The Steelers don't need this to make Week 18 "win and in" but it gives them another lottery ticket for the drawing.

As for the wild card, simply put: root for the AFC teams the Steelers can't or don't realistically have a chance to catch (KC, IND, BUF, NE, TEN) and against all the other contenders ahead of them (LAC, LVR, MIA)
IND over LVR
TEN over MIA
DEN over LAC

And of course,
PIT over CLE

If those games in bold come through, The Steelers only need one thing to happen in order to get a playoff spot: win their game in Baltimore. If they get those in bold, plus a KC win, they will have a path to either the #4 seed or the #7 seed. Who knows?

Honestly, making it as the 7 seed might not be the worst, since it likely means a trip to TEN, a team they did beat. The 4 seed probably means Indianapolis and the one team the Steelers run defense doesn't really want to see, even at Heinz Field.

[Texas Black & Gold]

Very nice summary.

I'm pulling for Division Champs and hosting a playoff game.

Here We Go Steelers.

[955876]

So it’s settled. All of the needed factors will fall into place. We will be in the driver’s seat controlling our own destiny…

And then, somehow will find a way to lose vs Baltimore’s 4th string QB maki g his first ever career start.

And THAT is the type of standard Jibbs has going for him.

Hopefully it doesn’t play out that way. Wouldn’t be surprised though in the least if it did though.

Someday we will have a HC that actually gives us some confidence & hope.

[Stosh-67]

Thanks for the summary B
They bolded is very possible

[Orangesteel]

Thanks Wil.

I ride. For the love of god get Ben one more playoff game. Otherwise what a dud of a send off; a tie to the fucking Lions being the game that keeps us out.

[Valentino_Blake]

The 4 seed probably means Indianapolis and the one team the Steelers run defense doesn't really want to see, even at Heinz Field.

You mean you don't want to see Jonathan Taylor breezing his way to the first 300yd game in league history...






...on his way to the first 400yd game in league history?

[Jobu]

SBI = depending on someone else to do the dirty work.
(Also known as backing into the post season.)
A staple of the Tomlin regime…

[955876]

Thanks Wil.

I ride. For the love of god get Ben one more playoff game. Otherwise what a dud of a send off; a tie to the fucking Lions being the game that keeps us out.

We do what we do. Tip of the cap to the Lions. That winless team came better prepared to defend blades of grass in the stadium for which men competed.

Their iron produced sharper iron. We had too many hostages and not enough volunteers which caused JV performance vs their varsity effort.

We embrace where we are as we head into the off-season without a losing record.

[bradshaw2ben]

SBI = depending on someone else to do the dirty work.
(Also known as backing into the post season.)
A staple of the Tomlin regime…

Hey, man... in the NFL, if you win enough games to get in, you earned it. This SBI business is just for us fans to follow along how good a chance they have.

[Jizz Mop]

This team sucks

To say they don’t you’re a homer of homers

Maybe next year they get Alualu and Tuitt back

Bush doesn’t play like one of Jerry’s Kids

Highsmith steps it up

We add some vets to the Oline and it goes from Keystone Cops-like play to an upgraded 3 Stooges level of play

This isn’t our year

This is the most embarrassing team I’ve ever watched

[bradshaw2ben]

This team sucks

To say they don’t you’re a homer of homers

Maybe next year they get Alualu and Tuitt back

Bush doesn’t play like one of Jerry’s Kids

Highsmith steps it up

We add some vets to the Oline and it goes from Keystone Cops-like play to an upgraded 3 Stooges level of play

This isn’t our year

This is the most embarrassing team I’ve ever watched

Yes, they suck and yes they are a contender for a playoff spot. Welcome to 2021.

There's next to no chance they rebuild the defense in one offseason. They need a #1 CB, 2 starting ILBs + Who knows about Tuitt or 35-year old Alualu. Their EDGE group behind Watt is completely underwhelming. Then you add in that Tomlin is their coordinator and... mediocrity it is. They'll be lucky to be relevant before Heyward is through. We'll likely be doing this same "one last sendoff" with Heyward in a year or two.

[Professor Half Wit]

This team sucks

To say they don’t you’re a homer of homers

Maybe next year they get Alualu and Tuitt back

Bush doesn’t play like one of Jerry’s Kids

Highsmith steps it up

We add some vets to the Oline and it goes from Keystone Cops-like play to an upgraded 3 Stooges level of play

This isn’t our year

This is the most embarrassing team I’ve ever watched

Yes, they suck and yes they are a contender for a playoff spot. Welcome to 2021.

There's next to no chance they rebuild the defense in one offseason. They need a #1 CB, 2 starting ILBs + Who knows about Tuitt or 35-year old Alualu. Their EDGE group behind Watt is completely underwhelming. Then you add in that Tomlin is their coordinator and... mediocrity it is. They'll be lucky to be relevant before Heyward is through. We'll likely be doing this same "one last sendoff" with Heyward in a year or two.

Cam is one of my all-time favorite Steelers and a criminally underrated DT. The guy has been an iron man and his level of play has been spectacular throughout his entire career. The play, the character, the heart.... And to think we got him where we drafted him.....

[bradshaw2ben]

Cam is likely to go his whole career without making it to a Super Bowl... which is a damn shame.

[955876]

Cam might be one of the few players on this team that gives a shit.

Need more like him.

Maybe he should put the hammer down on the celebration posse down 30 points.

[Texas Black & Gold]

Cam might be one of the few players on this team that gives a shit.

Need more like him.

Maybe he should put the hammer down on the celebration posse down 30 points.

Somebody certainly needs too.

[Jobu]

This isn’t the 1970s. Chase Claypool doesn’t give a fuck about what Cam Heyward thinks of his first down celebration.

[Texas Black & Gold]

This isn’t the 1970s. Chase Claypool doesn’t give a fuck about what Cam Heyward thinks of his first down celebration.

Wow. Is it really that bad that younger players would not respect veteran players or at least learn a little from them?

[Jobu]

This isn’t the 1970s. Chase Claypool doesn’t give a fuck about what Cam Heyward thinks of his first down celebration.

Wow. Is it really that bad that younger players would not respect veteran players or at least learn a little from them?

With all due respect…have you been living under a rock?
This is our world today.

[Texas Black & Gold]

This isn’t the 1970s. Chase Claypool doesn’t give a fuck about what Cam Heyward thinks of his first down celebration.

Wow. Is it really that bad that younger players would not respect veteran players or at least learn a little from them?

With all due respect…have you been living under a rock?
This is our world today.

It is not the world I live in. Perhaps it is much smaller than yours though.

[jeemie]

Thanks Wil.

I ride. For the love of god get Ben one more playoff game. Otherwise what a dud of a send off; a tie to the fucking Lions being the game that keeps us out.

The one game he didn’t play.

[Jobu]

Wow. Is it really that bad that younger players would not respect veteran players or at least learn a little from them?

With all due respect…have you been living under a rock?
This is our world today.

It is not the world I live in. Perhaps it is much smaller than yours though.

So you do live under a rock!

[955876]

This isn’t the 1970s. Chase Claypool doesn’t give a fuck about what Cam Heyward thinks of his first down celebration.

I would consider that Ben’s department.

Was referring to the cunts on defense that are losing 30-0 and celebrate after doing a single good thing like they just sealed a SB victory or some shit.

Cam should be droooing the hammer on them.

Most likely it’s a waste of time.

Especially when Jibba Cool Shades Jabba doesn’t bother to do a damn thing bout it.

[Texas Black & Gold]

This isn’t the 1970s. Chase Claypool doesn’t give a fuck about what Cam Heyward thinks of his first down celebration.

I would consider that Ben’s department.

Well Ben doesn't (at least publicly). He has deferred that responsibility to your favorite head coach.

[955876]

A QB of tenure should be all up in a you g WRs ass for the stupid shit on field Claypool has been doing.

Ben, for all his greatness, severely lacks in this department.

And it’s why he is notches below the all-time best and greats.

He is senior as fuck and this should be his offense. This offense is historically bad.

Aside from making a frownie face now and then he hasn’t said or done shit about it.

Given it seems he’s complicit to this bullshit makes me ready to move on from him as well.

What do we have to lose anyways? This is already the worst Steelers offense since practically WWII.

Oh no Ben might be gone next year.

Oh well. We suck with him anyways.

[Jobu]

A QB of tenure should be all up in a young WRs ass for the stupid shit on field Claypool has been doing.
I can tell you from experience, that type of leadership doesn’t always go over well. In fact, more often than not, it has the opposite effect.

Ben, for all his greatness, severely lacks in this department.
Ben seems more of the encouragement type of leader rather the berating type. That’s not necessarily a bad thing.

And it’s why he is notches below the all-time best and greats.
Other than Brady, who is head and shoulders above everyone else that’s played the game, who is Ben a notch below? He’s accomplished as much or more than any of those other guys.

He is senior as fuck and this should be his offense. This offense is historically bad.
He’s 39 years old, has taken a fucking beating for the past 18 seasons, and is pretty much done, no doubt. He also has no running game, the worst offensive line in the league, a WR group that doesn’t know the playbook, runs wrong routes, drops passes, and basically look like a group of chickens with their heads cut off. On top of that, a head coach and offensive coordinator that are in way over their head.

Aside from making a frownie face now and then he hasn’t said or done shit about it.
With all due respect, you have know idea if he’s said or tried to do anything about it.

Given it seems he’s complicit to this bullshit makes me ready to move on from him as well.
I’m not sure what you mean by complicit, but if you’re suggesting he doesn’t care, I’m calling bullshit.

What do we have to lose anyways? This is already the worst Steelers offense since practically WWII.
No argument here.

Oh no Ben might be gone next year.

Oh well. We suck with him anyways.
Yep…ring in the Mason Rudolph era.

[955876]

A QB of tenure should be all up in a young WRs ass for the stupid shit on field Claypool has been doing.
I can tell you from experience, that type of leadership doesn’t always go over well. In fact, more often than not, it has the opposite effect.

Ben, for all his greatness, severely lacks in this department.
Ben seems more of the encouragement type of leader rather the berating type. That’s not necessarily a bad thing.

And it’s why he is notches below the all-time best and greats.
Other than Brady, who is head and shoulders above everyone else that’s played the game, who is Ben a notch below? He’s accomplished as much or more than any of those other guys.

He is senior as fuck and this should be his offense. This offense is historically bad.
He’s 39 years old, has taken a fucking beating for the past 18 seasons, and is pretty much done, no doubt. He also has no running game, the worst offensive line in the league, a WR group that doesn’t know the playbook, runs wrong routes, drops passes, and basically look like a group of chickens with their heads cut off. On top of that, a head coach and offensive coordinator that are in way over their head.


Aside from making a frownie face now and then he hasn’t said or done shit about it.
With all due respect, you have know idea if he’s said or tried to do anything about it.

Given it seems he’s complicit to this bullshit makes me ready to move on from him as well.
I’m not sure what you mean by complicit, but if you’re suggesting he doesn’t care, I’m calling bullshit.

What do we have to lose anyways? This is already the worst Steelers offense since practically WWII.
No argument here.

Oh no Ben might be gone next year.

Oh well. We suck with him anyways.
Yep…ring in the Mason Rudolph era.

While you say that style of leadership doesnt work, proof on the field is that his passive style isn’t either. And what is wrong with educating, teaching, and “leading” young men to play the game the right way? To be a professional? To put team and situation before self?

These things obviously need to be learned and it apparently isnt being taught by Jibbs or Ben. Seems the approach you are suggesting is more along the lines of coddling. I can tell you from exoeernice as well that that type of leadership doesn’t exactly work either.

As for my comment about Ben being “notches below”, well, given his level of talent and some of the talent that has been around him should he not have more than three meager playoff wins over a 10 plus year period? That is why he’s notches below given his talent. Those results aren’t up to snuff. And he’s had his share of the blame for that as well. I’ve many times documented his TD/INT radio in playoff games vs his counterparts. Throw it to the other side more than the other guy and chances are you’ll lose playoff games.

And the sooner we get to Masonnand beyond the better.

You want more years of horizontal passes for zero gain on third & 10? Seemingly a Ben staple these days.

If that is how he’s going to play there is no point in continuing to play.

[955876]

WR group that doesn’t know the playbook, runs wrong routes, drops passes, and basically look like a group of chickens with their heads cut off.

And how much additional time has been spent correcting this issue?

Ben and young WR corps putting in that extra work?

[Jobu]

Well it seems that your hell bent on putting the bulk of the blame on Ben, and some of what you suggest is true. But at some point other players have to be responsible for what they’ve put on tape…don’t you think?

[955876]

Well it seems that your hell bent on putting the bulk of the blame on Ben, and some of what you suggest is true. But at some point other players have to be responsible for what they’ve put on tape…don’t you think?

First off, I’m not trying to “put everything on Ben”. I think it’s a shame the team never seemed to be able to figure out how to put him into a better offense.

I also think the other players need to step up.

But with that agreed upon, who teaching these young’s guys? It apparently isn’t Jibbs when it comes to these finer points.

So to me to, a team needs a key offensive and defensive leader. That clearly needs be Ben on this young ass team.

If he isn’t teaching them how to be a professional and how to win in this league then who is? Tomlin?

What I’m referring to is such things as he needs to be in Claypools ear at some point with “that’s not how we do it here” and if it is t heard and the behavior co to use them I’ll throw ball elsewhere.

They need to hear it from someone. Who better than so some of Ben’s stature.

[Jobu]

Well it seems that your hell bent on putting the bulk of the blame on Ben, and some of what you suggest is true. But at some point other players have to be responsible for what they’ve put on tape…don’t you think?

First off, I’m not trying to “put everything on Ben”. I think it’s a shame the team never seemed to be able to figure out how to put him into a better offense.

I also think the other players need to step up.

But with that agreed upon, who teaching these young’s guys? It apparently isn’t Jibbs when it comes to these finer points.

So to me to, a team needs a key offensive and defensive leader. That clearly needs be Ben on this young ass team.

If he isn’t teaching them how to be a professional and how to win in this league then who is? Tomlin?

What I’m referring to is such things as he needs to be in Claypools ear at some point with “that’s not how we do it here” and if it is t heard and the behavior co to use them I’ll throw ball elsewhere.

They need to hear it from someone. Who better than so some of Ben’s stature.

But the thing I’m trying to emphasize is that just because Ben (or whoever) isn’t doing it in the way you think he should be doing it, doesn’t mean that he isn’t trying. Remember when Ben tried to “lead” AB? How’d that turn out? It’s tough for a player, as veteran as he is, to exert leadership qualities when the head coach enables certain players
Today’s young players are grown ass men with a mind of their own. Some have priorities that don’t necessarily line up with winning football, as misguided as that may be. How would you rate the defensive leadership of Heyward or Watt? There’s a lot of boneheaded BS going on over there too.
You know the old saying…you can lead a horse to water…