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Re: The Steelers will have a coaching vacancy

Post by Professor Half Wit » Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:53 pm

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:31 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
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We need the Bob’s to come in and interview all the Steelers coaches.

“What exactly do you do here?”
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Holy shit!


“Being a fan is fine, but there is a line you can cross that makes it really unhealthy,” said Ken Yeager, PhD, a mental health expert in the department of psychiatry at The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center.

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Post by Kodiak. » Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:04 pm

So we fire the last OL coach, and promote the guy who spent one year under the old guy....

At this point, you have to ask the question if Tomlin even knows enough about offense to hire competent offensive people.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:14 pm

Kodiak. wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:04 pm
So we fire the last OL coach, and promote the guy who spent one year under the old guy....

At this point, you have to ask the question if Tomlin even knows enough about offense to hire competent offensive people.


Tomlin wants weak positional coaches under him so his genius cannot be questioned

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Post by Lynch » Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:21 pm

Kodiak. wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:04 pm
So we fire the last OL coach, and promote the guy who spent one year under the old guy....

At this point, you have to ask the question if Tomlin even knows enough about offense to hire competent offensive people.


Question lol???

There's no question in my mind.

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Post by Jobu » Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:23 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:14 pm
Kodiak. wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:04 pm
So we fire the last OL coach, and promote the guy who spent one year under the old guy....

At this point, you have to ask the question if Tomlin even knows enough about offense to hire competent offensive people.


Tomlin wants weak positional coaches under him so his genius cannot be questioned


That would suggest he’s smart and conniving enough to pull that off. More likely, he’s just an incompetent fool.

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Post by Kodiak. » Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm

This really is pretty shocking.

The guy SHOULD have been safe for at least another year - you don't fire a guy with a brand new line after one year. Unless you really suck at hiring.

Maybe the handwriting was on the wall, I just think there might be more to leaving because most people don't get to the top and then go backwards voluntarily. Even if next year is make-or-break, most people wouldn't just walk away without trying.
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Post by Riverrat » Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:04 pm

jeemie wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:31 pm
Riverrat wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:07 pm
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:04 pm


It’s always possible he has been informed he’s going to be shit-canned.
He probably doesn't need informed. He coaches the worst and most visible weakness on the team and Tomlin will roll heads at seasons end.
Except the one that should roll…his own.

But of course we are definitely winning one more game at least out of our final three, so the streak of non-losing seasons will continue.
For sure, but we have seen this circle jerk three or four times already. Rinse and repeat.

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Post by Riverrat » Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:08 pm

Professor Half Wit wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:53 pm
LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:31 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:20 pm
We need the Bob’s to come in and interview all the Steelers coaches.

“What exactly do you do here?”
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Holy shit!
Nice find, an actual TPS report from Inotech. I thought that place burned down.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:42 pm

I believe you have my stapler

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Post by 955876 » Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:48 pm

We haven’t scored a 1st half TD over the past 4 games. That is essentially a quarter of a season.

Yet Dunce will pat his dog on the head and tell him good boy come seasons end.

Pathetic.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:25 pm

955876 wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:48 pm
We haven’t scored a 1st half TD over the past 4 games. That is essentially a quarter of a season.

Yet Dunce will pat his dog on the head and tell him good boy come seasons end.

Pathetic.
Scoring is boring

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Post by TTP » Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:09 pm

Well, Klemm has gained experience coaching a college level OL here in Pittsburgh so maybe this isn't a lateral move after all.

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Post by langer » Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:40 pm

Did he have to secure himself a spot because he knew he was getting shit-canned for his performance?
"I'm institutionalized, man," he joked. "I gotta have it. I just love the challenges week in and week out that this job provides: the growth in it, the collective growth, the individual growth."

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Post by Kodiak. » Fri Dec 24, 2021 4:03 pm

langer wrote:
Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:40 pm
Did he have to secure himself a spot because he knew he was getting shit-canned for his performance?
The coach is apparently a friend of his?

Still, even if he expected to be fired, he jumps on this instead of looking to land another NFL job? Tells you something about the types of people Tomlin is hiring. "Hey, Mike, turns out I'm not NFL coaching material but thanks for the shot!".
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Post by JackLambert58 » Fri Dec 24, 2021 4:54 pm

stairway 2 seven wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:41 am
If we bring anybody back it should be Mark Whipple but he's going to coach Nebraska.
I don't want to bring anyone back. New slate. I know that's a pipe dream.
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Post by Scunge » Sat Dec 25, 2021 3:36 am

Well, trying to see a silver lining here. Maybe we will see a similar outcome to the 2012-2013-2014 offensive line coach turnover.

In 2012 we had Sean Kugler. He left for college after the season, to UTEP, and the past 3 years has been the O-line coach for Arizona Cardinals

They replaced him with Jack Bicknell Jr in 2013, who was really, really awful.

Then they had a come to jesus moment and said, hey we have got to get serious about this, and hired Mike Munchak in 2014.

Now, hopefully, they are in the same rock bottom situation and have to put more effort and money into hiring a quality, proven, veteran OL coach.

Even if they have to get creative and make an offer of not just being the OL coach, but the OL coach/Running Game coordinator, or OL coach/Assistant Head Coach in addition to giving up a massive amount of money.

Say you are two years out from drafting your new franchise QB, doesn't it make sense to build up the offensive line with somebody who knows what they are doing? Who has done it before?

The Cleveland Browns wasted no time in going after Bill Callahan after Washington moved on from him as their head coach. They made him their offensive line coach in 2020. There are coaches that become available each and every season, there is always regime changes. Steelers have to strike hard and fast this off season and snatch up the best available OL coach prospect no matter the cost.

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Post by Lynch » Sat Dec 25, 2021 4:30 am

Scunge wrote:
Sat Dec 25, 2021 3:36 am
Well, trying to see a silver lining here. Maybe we will see a similar outcome to the 2012-2013-2014 offensive line coach turnover.
No dude, We had Haley then. That was the period where Rooney was allowing Tomlin some say in the hiring of personnel, true, but the VAST majority of the weight in regards to offensive decisions was left up to Haley.

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Post by Ice » Sat Dec 25, 2021 11:20 am

RemoAZ wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:53 am
Lynch wrote:
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We need to bring Todd Haley back as head coach. I'm not trolling here. I'm dead ass serious.
I really think he helped Ben's career but he's a little nutzo. Not sure that's the guy you want leading your team.
Hiring a HS coach as our head coach because we're familiar with him and his dad worked here in the 70s would be the AR2-est thing ever.
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Post by stinger8 » Sat Dec 25, 2021 2:30 pm

StillerDownSouth wrote:
Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:38 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
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steelmann58 wrote:
Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:19 pm
There talk that Oregon and their New Head man Wants Klemm to join his staff. Really hope this happens and the Steelers instead of just promoting they clean house by getting rid of everyone, hire Munchak as HC and get this whole shebang going in the right direction
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Munchak was an abortion of a head coach in Tennessee, no thanks. I’d much rather have a young offensive minded coach that can develop our new QB.
100% this.

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Post by steelmann58 » Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:14 am

This is great news but will mean Nothing if they don't go out side an hire the best guy for the Job period

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Post by Havoc » Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:07 am

jeemie wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:31 pm
Riverrat wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:07 pm
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:04 pm


It’s always possible he has been informed he’s going to be shit-canned.
He probably doesn't need informed. He coaches the worst and most visible weakness on the team and Tomlin will roll heads at seasons end.
Except the one that should roll…his own.

But of course we are definitely winning one more game at least out of our final three, so the streak of non-losing seasons will continue.
It's about the QB. We have never had a losing season since we drafted Ben. Our last losing season was the year before Ben was drafted.

We were on our way to a terrible record in 2019... Colbert and Minkah saved our season. That was with a younger Haden. The addition of Minkah brought swagger to that D and they fought hard all year. The high character warriors on that D were going to play hard no matter the HC. Tomlin, as always, was an albatross to offense (which is why he should have been gone years ago).

I would have fired Tomlin after the game in NO in 2018 when he proved to me with out a doubt he was incapable of adjusting to a roster built for offense to lead the way, for offense to close out games.
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Post by Ice » Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:34 pm

Pretty sure Cowher's swan song was sub-.500, or am I misremembering?
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Post by Jobu » Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:51 pm

Ice wrote:
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Pretty sure Cowher's swan song was sub-.500, or am I misremembering?
8-8

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Post by Ice » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:07 pm

I'm going to guess it was a pretty uninspiring 8-8. I remembered it as a loser, for sure. Probably due to PES from the season before. Those PES hangovers are a bitch.
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Post by jeemie » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:57 pm

Ice wrote:
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I'm going to guess it was a pretty uninspiring 8-8. I remembered it as a loser, for sure. Probably due to PES from the season before. Those PES hangovers are a bitch.
It was uninspiring.

From him yukking it up with Michael Vick on the sidelines of a 41-38 loss to Ben getting walloped by the Ravens after Willie Parker missed a block, there was little to cheer about.

Cowher even admitted later he was unfocused. His goal for so long had been to hand a Lombardi Trophy to Dan Rooney that once he accomplished that, he didn’t know what else he wanted to do.
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Post by Ice » Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:54 pm

I'd forgotten some of those specifics, but I did remember the listlessness and anticlimax.
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Post by Lynch » Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:59 pm

Jobu wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:51 pm
Ice wrote:
Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:34 pm
Pretty sure Cowher's swan song was sub-.500, or am I misremembering?
8-8
Ehh... Do you not remember Ben having his brains bashed in by a car and cousin Eddie plates installed onto his cranium???

He was CREARLY not right that entire year. I can't believe they played him actually.

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