Holy shit!
Klemm leaving merged thread
- Professor Half Wit
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Re: The Steelers will have a coaching vacancy
“Being a fan is fine, but there is a line you can cross that makes it really unhealthy,” said Ken Yeager, PhD, a mental health expert in the department of psychiatry at The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center.
So we fire the last OL coach, and promote the guy who spent one year under the old guy....
At this point, you have to ask the question if Tomlin even knows enough about offense to hire competent offensive people.
At this point, you have to ask the question if Tomlin even knows enough about offense to hire competent offensive people.
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Weighty downs...the lifeblood of ball possession
Weighty downs...the lifeblood of ball possession
Tomlin wants weak positional coaches under him so his genius cannot be questioned
Question lol???
There's no question in my mind.
This really is pretty shocking.
The guy SHOULD have been safe for at least another year - you don't fire a guy with a brand new line after one year. Unless you really suck at hiring.
Maybe the handwriting was on the wall, I just think there might be more to leaving because most people don't get to the top and then go backwards voluntarily. Even if next year is make-or-break, most people wouldn't just walk away without trying.
The guy SHOULD have been safe for at least another year - you don't fire a guy with a brand new line after one year. Unless you really suck at hiring.
Maybe the handwriting was on the wall, I just think there might be more to leaving because most people don't get to the top and then go backwards voluntarily. Even if next year is make-or-break, most people wouldn't just walk away without trying.
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Weighty downs...the lifeblood of ball possession
Weighty downs...the lifeblood of ball possession
For sure, but we have seen this circle jerk three or four times already. Rinse and repeat.jeemie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:31 pmExcept the one that should roll…his own.Riverrat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:07 pmHe probably doesn't need informed. He coaches the worst and most visible weakness on the team and Tomlin will roll heads at seasons end.Professor Half Wit wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:04 pm
It’s always possible he has been informed he’s going to be shit-canned.
But of course we are definitely winning one more game at least out of our final three, so the streak of non-losing seasons will continue.
Nice find, an actual TPS report from Inotech. I thought that place burned down.Professor Half Wit wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:53 pmHoly shit!
I believe you have my stapler
We haven’t scored a 1st half TD over the past 4 games. That is essentially a quarter of a season.
Yet Dunce will pat his dog on the head and tell him good boy come seasons end.
Pathetic.
Yet Dunce will pat his dog on the head and tell him good boy come seasons end.
Pathetic.
Well, Klemm has gained experience coaching a college level OL here in Pittsburgh so maybe this isn't a lateral move after all.
Did he have to secure himself a spot because he knew he was getting shit-canned for his performance?
"I'm institutionalized, man," he joked. "I gotta have it. I just love the challenges week in and week out that this job provides: the growth in it, the collective growth, the individual growth."
The coach is apparently a friend of his?
Still, even if he expected to be fired, he jumps on this instead of looking to land another NFL job? Tells you something about the types of people Tomlin is hiring. "Hey, Mike, turns out I'm not NFL coaching material but thanks for the shot!".
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Weighty downs...the lifeblood of ball possession
Weighty downs...the lifeblood of ball possession
- JackLambert58
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I don't want to bring anyone back. New slate. I know that's a pipe dream.stairway 2 seven wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:41 amIf we bring anybody back it should be Mark Whipple but he's going to coach Nebraska.
"Jack Lambert is mean and relentless wherever he goes, on and off the field! I do remember many times he would chase me in practice, but no way would I let him catch me" - Franco Harris
Well, trying to see a silver lining here. Maybe we will see a similar outcome to the 2012-2013-2014 offensive line coach turnover.
In 2012 we had Sean Kugler. He left for college after the season, to UTEP, and the past 3 years has been the O-line coach for Arizona Cardinals
They replaced him with Jack Bicknell Jr in 2013, who was really, really awful.
Then they had a come to jesus moment and said, hey we have got to get serious about this, and hired Mike Munchak in 2014.
Now, hopefully, they are in the same rock bottom situation and have to put more effort and money into hiring a quality, proven, veteran OL coach.
Even if they have to get creative and make an offer of not just being the OL coach, but the OL coach/Running Game coordinator, or OL coach/Assistant Head Coach in addition to giving up a massive amount of money.
Say you are two years out from drafting your new franchise QB, doesn't it make sense to build up the offensive line with somebody who knows what they are doing? Who has done it before?
The Cleveland Browns wasted no time in going after Bill Callahan after Washington moved on from him as their head coach. They made him their offensive line coach in 2020. There are coaches that become available each and every season, there is always regime changes. Steelers have to strike hard and fast this off season and snatch up the best available OL coach prospect no matter the cost.
In 2012 we had Sean Kugler. He left for college after the season, to UTEP, and the past 3 years has been the O-line coach for Arizona Cardinals
They replaced him with Jack Bicknell Jr in 2013, who was really, really awful.
Then they had a come to jesus moment and said, hey we have got to get serious about this, and hired Mike Munchak in 2014.
Now, hopefully, they are in the same rock bottom situation and have to put more effort and money into hiring a quality, proven, veteran OL coach.
Even if they have to get creative and make an offer of not just being the OL coach, but the OL coach/Running Game coordinator, or OL coach/Assistant Head Coach in addition to giving up a massive amount of money.
Say you are two years out from drafting your new franchise QB, doesn't it make sense to build up the offensive line with somebody who knows what they are doing? Who has done it before?
The Cleveland Browns wasted no time in going after Bill Callahan after Washington moved on from him as their head coach. They made him their offensive line coach in 2020. There are coaches that become available each and every season, there is always regime changes. Steelers have to strike hard and fast this off season and snatch up the best available OL coach prospect no matter the cost.
No dude, We had Haley then. That was the period where Rooney was allowing Tomlin some say in the hiring of personnel, true, but the VAST majority of the weight in regards to offensive decisions was left up to Haley.
Hiring a HS coach as our head coach because we're familiar with him and his dad worked here in the 70s would be the AR2-est thing ever.
Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile...
100% this.StillerDownSouth wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:38 pmbradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:09 pmFixedsteelmann58 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:19 pmThere talk that Oregon and their New Head man Wants Klemm to join his staff. Really hope this happens and the Steelers instead of just promoting they clean house by getting rid of everyone, hire Munchak as HC and get this whole shebang going in the right direction
Munchak was an abortion of a head coach in Tennessee, no thanks. I’d much rather have a young offensive minded coach that can develop our new QB.
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This is great news but will mean Nothing if they don't go out side an hire the best guy for the Job period
It's about the QB. We have never had a losing season since we drafted Ben. Our last losing season was the year before Ben was drafted.jeemie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:31 pmExcept the one that should roll…his own.Riverrat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:07 pmHe probably doesn't need informed. He coaches the worst and most visible weakness on the team and Tomlin will roll heads at seasons end.Professor Half Wit wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:04 pm
It’s always possible he has been informed he’s going to be shit-canned.
But of course we are definitely winning one more game at least out of our final three, so the streak of non-losing seasons will continue.
We were on our way to a terrible record in 2019... Colbert and Minkah saved our season. That was with a younger Haden. The addition of Minkah brought swagger to that D and they fought hard all year. The high character warriors on that D were going to play hard no matter the HC. Tomlin, as always, was an albatross to offense (which is why he should have been gone years ago).
I would have fired Tomlin after the game in NO in 2018 when he proved to me with out a doubt he was incapable of adjusting to a roster built for offense to lead the way, for offense to close out games.
Throw. The. Football. On. First. Down.
Pretty sure Cowher's swan song was sub-.500, or am I misremembering?
Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile...
I'm going to guess it was a pretty uninspiring 8-8. I remembered it as a loser, for sure. Probably due to PES from the season before. Those PES hangovers are a bitch.
Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile...
It was uninspiring.
From him yukking it up with Michael Vick on the sidelines of a 41-38 loss to Ben getting walloped by the Ravens after Willie Parker missed a block, there was little to cheer about.
Cowher even admitted later he was unfocused. His goal for so long had been to hand a Lombardi Trophy to Dan Rooney that once he accomplished that, he didn’t know what else he wanted to do.
“Yeah we suck, be there is a chance we could suck slightly more if we try to correct the problem.” - Art Deuce (summarized by SteelPerch)
I'd forgotten some of those specifics, but I did remember the listlessness and anticlimax.
Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile...
Ehh... Do you not remember Ben having his brains bashed in by a car and cousin Eddie plates installed onto his cranium???
He was CREARLY not right that entire year. I can't believe they played him actually.
