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BethlehemSteel
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by BethlehemSteel » Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:59 pm
Wow
color me surprised
ONCE A CHEATER ALWAYS A CHEATER
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/282 ... ture-shoot
Cincinnati Bengals coach Zac Taylor said Monday the NFL is investigating an incident involving a New England Patriots video crew taping in the press box during Sunday's game between the Bengals and Browns in Cleveland. The crew was credentialed by the Browns to shoot video for a Patriots team feature in the press box and their PR person was aware, a league source told ESPN's Adam Schefter.
Taylor was asked by longtime Bengals radio analyst Dave Lapham about rumors that "the Patriots had a videographer up in the Bengals' press box area, working with an advance scout that was taping video of the Bengals' sideline" at the end of the coach's news conference.
"I'm aware that there was an incident," Taylor said. "But I know the league is investigating it, so I've got no comment on it."
The incident in question involved a Patriots scout who was being filmed while working on a team feature called "Do Your Job," the source said. An official for the Bengals saw a member of the video crew wearing a Patriots shirt and alerted the league, which confiscated the video, according to the source.
In 2007, the Patriots were punished by the NFL for videotaping the New York Jets' defensive playcalls on the sideline during a 2007 game at Giants Stadium, won by New England 38-14. The Patriots were forced to forfeit their first-round draft pick in 2008 and coach Bill Belichick was fined the maximum amount of $500,000. The Patriots also were ordered to pay $250,000 for the scandal, which was dubbed "Spygate" by the media.
The Patriots (10-3) visit the Bengals (1-12) on Sunday.
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by Quixotic » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:11 pm
C’mon, now. I really don’t think the Patriots, fighting for 2nd seed, needs to cheat to get by the Bengals.
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by Kodiak » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:21 pm
Please let this be true.
Except who still uses hand signals - we've got radio's on both offense and defense? But it would be somewhat typical of NE to do something like this to distract from the REAL angle they're working.
Speaking of radios....I wonder how that's monitored? It's gotta be possible to hack those signals, if you're willing to pay for it. And unless the league occasionally takes a QB's helmet and tears it apart, there's really no way to know it doesn't have an extra radio that never shuts off.
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by BethlehemSteel » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:21 pm
Quixotic, Are u being thick?
Use your head. They might lose a few more and have to play on road
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by Kodiak » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:28 pm
Quixotic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:11 pm
C’mon, now. I really don’t think the Patriots, fighting for 2nd seed, needs to cheat to get by the Bengals.
Both teams have new coaches so you gotta update the library.
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by Texas Black & Gold » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:42 pm
BethlehemSteel wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:59 pm
Wow
color me surprised
ONCE A CHEATER ALWAYS A CHEATER
They are cheaters through and through.
How many asterisks do they need for this team?
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by Ice » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:04 pm
Cheating to beat the Bungles is pretty low, even for the Patriots.
Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile...
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by BethlehemSteel » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:24 pm
Another Kraft production.......
On Sunday, Kraft Sports Productions had a credentialed staffer at the Bengals-Browns game in Cleveland filming an advance scout for an upcoming episode of "Do Your Job." According to reports, members of the Bengals saw the taping occurring and alerted officials. The league then obtained the video after speaking with the Patriots employees. The video is said to be of the Bengals sideline, which was to be used for B-roll.
New England got permission from the Browns, but did not contact the Bengals or the league until afterwards.
With that being said, the Bengals believe the Patriots were stealing signs from the Bengals' sideline.
Bill Belichick addressed the matter Monday on Ordway, Merloni & Fauria.
“Yeah, I heard about this and evidently this is our production people on the TV show that were there and I have absolutely nothing to do, we have absolutely nothing to do with anything that they produce or direct or shoot," he said. "I have never even seen any of their tapes or anything else. This is something that we 100 percent have zero involvement with. This is something you’d have to talk to the production people about and what they were doing, or whatever it was. We have never seen anything that they’ve shot, other than what has come down on TV.”
More to come shortly...
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by Stosh-67 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:41 pm
Un-official sources say the league destroyed the tapes after viewing them....
jk
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by AirRescueFF » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:42 pm
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by Kodiak » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:47 pm
CIN - one of the most incompetent organizations in the league - was the only one smart enough to catch NE cheating?!?

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by BethlehemSteel » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:57 pm
Aha
Dianna
@diannaESPN
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1h
A source tells me a Bengals employee was watching the videographer/cameraman who identified himself as a Robert Kraft employee. The Bengals employee kept an eye on that monitor, the shot was of the Bengals coaches and staff on the sidelines for the entire 1st quarter.
Dianna
@diannaESPN
the Bengals employee flagged media relations. Bengals security then interviewed the Kraft videographer. This was also taped. The cameraman asked if they could just delete the footage and it all be forgotten per sources
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There u go, let's film the crew guy, but make sure he's facing Bengals Bench while we film him from behind!!! They stoop to every low crevice!!
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by bradshaw2ben » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:41 am
I think you misunderstood: the Bengals filmed their confrontation of the film crew. They weren't filming their own sideline.
The tidbits from the Bengals via ESPN, if true: a whole lot of hurt for the Pats. Wait until we find out where else they've been filming the show.
the entire 1st quarter and then the guy says 'how about we delete it and just forget about the whole thing?'... yikes!
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by Jizz Mop » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:46 am
NFL seized the tape to “lose” or destroy it
Think the NFL wants this as a story again?
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by BethlehemSteel » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:48 am
Jizz Mop wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:46 am
NFL seized the tape to “lose” or destroy it
Think the NFL wants this as a story again?
Bengals have copies of the videos on the SD cards, it's been reported
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by Kodiak » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:50 am
bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:41 am
the entire 1st quarter and then the guy says 'how about we delete it and just forget about the whole thing?'... yikes!
"ehhhhh, look, maybe the VCR falls back ONTO da truck....no harm no foul!"
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by BethlehemSteel » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:52 am
bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:41 am
I think you misunderstood: the Bengals filmed their confrontation of the film crew. They weren't filming their own sideline.
The tidbits from the Bengals via ESPN, if true: a whole lot of hurt for the Pats. Wait until we find out where else they've been filming the show.
the entire 1st quarter and then the guy says 'how about we delete it and just forget about the whole thing?'... yikes!
yea, lets wait
those in the know leaking out these bits....give it the 24 hr test
schefter running cover for Kraft
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An official for the Bengals, who were playing at Cleveland Sunday, saw a member of the video crew wearing a Patriots’ shirt and alerted the league, which confiscated the video, according to the source. NFL has video; Patriots say video is a press-box feature of the advance scout.
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by BethlehemSteel » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:53 am
if it walks like a duck.... see the same methods appearing
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by StillerDownSouth » Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:10 am
Where there is smoke there is usually fire. Patriots have cheated for years and the punishment has never been harsh enough to keep them from continuing to cheat. When a team is always that prepared, way more than any other team in the history of game it sure makes one wonder. The run they have been on the last 20 years is all-time, no other team in the history of NFL has had a run of success for that long, but if you have the answers to the test, in makes for one smart son of a bitch.
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by Texas Black & Gold » Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:17 am
StillerDownSouth wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:10 am
Where there is smoke there is usually fire. Patriots have cheated for years and the punishment has never been harsh enough to keep them from continuing to cheat. When a team is always that prepared, way more than any other team in the history of game it sure makes one wonder. The run they have been on the last 20 years is all-time, no other team in the history of NFL has had a run of success for that long, but if you have the answers to the test, in makes for one smart son of a bitch.
And it shows initiative

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by BethlehemSteel » Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:28 am
StillerDownSouth wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:10 am
Where there is smoke there is usually fire. Patriots have cheated for years and the punishment has never been harsh enough to keep them from continuing to cheat. When a team is always that prepared, way more than any other team in the history of game it sure makes one wonder. The run they have been on the last 20 years is all-time, no other team in the history of NFL has had a run of success for that long, b
ut if you have the answers to the test, in makes for one smart son of a bitch.
this
1000000+ times
brady's PC during SB week (eagles season) - he blurted that out...... it was quickly scubbed ( from pats websites - video and audio) after the season
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by AirRescueFF » Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:47 am
bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:41 am
I think you misunderstood: the Bengals filmed their confrontation of the film crew. They weren't filming their own sideline.
The tidbits from the Bengals via ESPN, if true: a whole lot of hurt for the Pats. Wait until we find out where else they've been filming the show.
the entire 1st quarter
and then the guy says 'how about we delete it and just forget about the whole thing?'... yikes!
https://youtu.be/wXf_eaQcSdM
0:50 mark.
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BethlehemSteel
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by BethlehemSteel » Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:52 am
a real "squid pro ro" ??

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by bradshaw2ben » Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:57 am
I don't want to hear it, Billy!
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by Texas Black & Gold » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:00 am
I hope the Bungles beat the Cheaters. Poetic justice.

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by R_S » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:17 am
BethlehemSteel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:53 am
if it walks like a duck.... see the same methods appearing
Wow! Exactly the excuse talked about 4 years ago.
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by BethlehemSteel » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:24 am
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by Orangesteel » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:45 am
Fucking cheating fucks. Wow. Only doing this because they were caught.
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by BethlehemSteel » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:48 am
Orangesteel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:45 am
Fucking cheating fucks. Wow. Only doing this because they were caught.
red handed in the act
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by Jizz Mop » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:58 am
If anything happens about this I’ll be shocked
Goodell practically blows Kraft