Just to accentuate how bad our skill players and scheme were

[tbsteel]

Can you imagine if we didn't have one of the best o-lines in football?

Ben wasn't really pressured all that much this game. And our guys still couldn't get open, still couldn't do anything positive with the ball in their hands, and still couldn't catch it even when they were open.

It shouldn't be that hard. A great o-line and a HOF QB. I'm at an absolute loss of words.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Can you imagine if we didn't have one of the best o-lines in football?

Ben wasn't really pressured all that much this game. And our guys still couldn't get open, still couldn't do anything positive with the ball in their hands, and still couldn't catch it even when they were open.

It shouldn't be that hard. A great o-line and a HOF QB. I'm at an absolute loss of words.

Well again you can blame the defense....get down early and you can throw the non-existent gameplan out the window. Couldn’t take the time to establish a balanced attack.

Again why the fuck do you defer to your shitty defense on the coin toss. What a fucking idiot.

[Legacy User]

Can you imagine if we didn't have one of the best o-lines in football?

Ben wasn't really pressured all that much this game. And our guys still couldn't get open, still couldn't do anything positive with the ball in their hands, and still couldn't catch it even when they were open.

It shouldn't be that hard. A great o-line and a HOF QB. I'm at an absolute loss of words.

Well again you can blame the defense....get down early and you can throw the non-existent gameplan out the window. Couldn’t take the time to establish a balanced attack.

Again why the fuck do you defer to your shitty defense on the coin toss. What a fucking idiot.

Am I misremembering or didn't the Steeler D stop the Pats' first drive in which case deferring was okay.

[jeemie]

I really do wonder if this game would have changed any had Ben put that pass into Holton's breadbasket as opposed to underthrowing it.

It is what it is...these early season games will be our extended preseason no matter how many times we beg Mike Tomlin not to treat them as such.

At least as long as Ben is here.

[Orangesteel]

We did stop NE on their first drive and drove the ball down the field pretty well until Ben’s underthrown bomb to Holton on a 3rd and 4.

Then, the rest was about 54 minutes of the worst fucking professional football I’ve ever seen. Top to bottom goddamn horrendous.

Tomlin should be shit canned and all 53 players should be ashamed of themselves for wearing the Steelers crest and playing a game like that.

Fuck them all. Fuck it all.

[Legacy User]

In that case, then, my point was that if you defer and you stop the other team, then their punt to you is as if you took the opening kickoff plus you get the kick after the half in which case Tomlin deferring wasn't a problem tonight.

[Orangesteel]

In that case, then, my point was that if you defer and you stop the other team, then their punt to you is as if you took the opening kickoff plus you get the kick after the half in which case Tomlin deferring wasn't a problem tonight.

No it wasn’t. The 54 minutes after the two opening series was the problem. Tomlin is the problem. 70% of this roster is the problem.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Can you imagine if we didn't have one of the best o-lines in football?

Ben wasn't really pressured all that much this game. And our guys still couldn't get open, still couldn't do anything positive with the ball in their hands, and still couldn't catch it even when they were open.

It shouldn't be that hard. A great o-line and a HOF QB. I'm at an absolute loss of words.

Well again you can blame the defense....get down early and you can throw the non-existent gameplan out the window. Couldn’t take the time to establish a balanced attack.

Again why the fuck do you defer to your shitty defense on the coin toss. What a fucking idiot.

Am I misremembering or didn't the Steeler D stop the Pats' first drive in which case deferring was okay.

No you are not misremembering. That is not the point though.

Just take your best fucking unit and your scripted plays from the 25 and execute. There is just so much more opportunity to control what you can control in a highly charged atmosphere. You know a 90% chance exists of being on the 25. And the Pats scored first, so you can argue if it was nerves, had they taken the ball to start, they would have gotten rid of the jitters and then done the real opening drive on the second or third series.

It is Ben and your best unit! Ram it down their throats and dictate the whole fucking game.

[the-other-burg]

The one thing that cant be lost in all of this - this team has consistently shown that they only win when they have more talent. Its not about scheme, or preparation, its about 'our skill guys are better than your skill guys'. I mean for a while there, we had a top 5 QB, top RB, top WR and a top 5 O-Line - and we still couldnt keep it together.

Its not a surprise that losing the pieces we've lost would end in this result. This team is going to have to reinvent itself on offense - and fast.

[K_C_]

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if our first 2 picks next April are safeties.

[SteelerDayTrader]

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if our first 2 picks next April are safeties.

That wont happen

And the absoluteness I can say that with is probably a bigger problem

[alancac98]

The Steelers fail to upgrade at any position. Our Dline got totally manhandled last night by an offensive line that was supposed to be NE's weakness! Where in the hell were Tuitt and Hayward all night? We always seem to offer contracts to "our" guys instead of scanning thew possible free agents coming up and saying "let's go get them" ! We let Spencer go and kept Monqueef and Switz because they were vets and Tomlin nearly always defers to a vet for their experience while other teams and coaches go with the better players. Chick and Dirty Red should have been shown the door. I'm still hoping Skipper doesn't get pick up by someone else - he deserved to be here with his play during the preseason!

[burmanj]

Here's why we lose and will continue to lose....

score: 0-0 3rd and 4 opening drive, and Ben throws a bomb to Johnny Holten.. A guy that was on the PRACTICE squad yesterday. Think about that for a moment, and then think about the past 8 years...and how many times you've seen that before.

Another example: 3rd and goal from the 1.... a fade to MONCRIEF..... a guy who had already dropped 3, maybe 4 balls already. Instead of lining up with our probowl fullback, and running our probowl running back behind our 3 probowl oline... a FADE to MONCRIEF. ughhh

I love Ben... and have defended him for a long time. He's a fierce competitor and has a great arm...but he's dumb. The coaches are dumb too. Too many stupid calls and stupid throws...We will never beat NE that way. Rudolph does not have the arm Ben does... but maybe, just maybe... a smarter qb would make the better decision and throw for the first down instead of the bomb... and maybe we would win.

I'm officially hoping for the days of Mason Rudolph.... and hoping they come soon. Maybe he'll be worse.... but I just cant take stupid anymore

[StillerInCT]

Here's why we lose and will continue to lose....

score: 0-0 3rd and 4 opening drive, and Ben throws a bomb to Johnny Holten.. A guy that was on the PRACTICE squad yesterday. Think about that for a moment, and then think about the past 8 years...and how many times you've seen that before.

Another example: 3rd and goal from the 1.... a fade to MONCRIEF..... a guy who had already dropped 3, maybe 4 balls already. Instead of lining up with our probowl fullback, and running our probowl running back behind our 3 probowl oline... a FADE to MONCRIEF. ughhh

I love Ben... and have defended him for a long time. He's a fierce competitor and has a great arm...but he's dumb. The coaches are dumb too. Too many stupid calls and stupid throws...We will never beat NE that way. Rudolph does not have the arm Ben does... but maybe, just maybe... a smarter qb would make the better decision and throw for the first down instead of the bomb... and maybe we would win.

I'm officially hoping for the days of Mason Rudolph.... and hoping they come soon. Maybe he'll be worse.... but I just cant take stupid anymore

Here come the pitchforks...

[SteelerDayTrader]

Here's why we lose and will continue to lose....

score: 0-0 3rd and 4 opening drive, and Ben throws a bomb to Johnny Holten.. A guy that was on the PRACTICE squad yesterday. Think about that for a moment, and then think about the past 8 years...and how many times you've seen that before.

Another example: 3rd and goal from the 1.... a fade to MONCRIEF..... a guy who had already dropped 3, maybe 4 balls already. Instead of lining up with our probowl fullback, and running our probowl running back behind our 3 probowl oline... a FADE to MONCRIEF. ughhh

I love Ben... and have defended him for a long time. He's a fierce competitor and has a great arm...but he's dumb. The coaches are dumb too. Too many stupid calls and stupid throws...We will never beat NE that way. Rudolph does not have the arm Ben does... but maybe, just maybe... a smarter qb would make the better decision and throw for the first down instead of the bomb... and maybe we would win.

I'm officially hoping for the days of Mason Rudolph.... and hoping they come soon. Maybe he'll be worse.... but I just cant take stupid anymore

[steelmann58]

you are right Ben throwing those deep balls instead of getting the first down has happened time and time again but does he audible into that? His deep passes last night were way off for sure.
I still can't believe we can't get a yard on the ground.

[Orangesteel]

It’s 3rd down and must score from the 1 yard line. It’s a two down situation there since the score is 20-0 and you are playing at Gillette.

Instead of changing personnel and lining up your FB and RB who scored plenty of goal line TDs last season, we line up shotgun, then we call a time out because Fitchner and Ben don’t know what the hell is going on, then out of the timeout run a clusterfuck fade route to the guy who has shown through a half of football that he doesn’t deserve to be on an NFL roster.

You line up Rosie Nix and Connor and you run it twice behind a top tier O-line.

There is so much stupid on this team it’s almost unfathomable. But what is really funny is that we are picking up right where we left off last year with the dumbest group of coaches currently employed.

[SteelerDayTrader]

The Steelers fail to upgrade at any position. Our Dline got totally manhandled last night by an offensive line that was supposed to be NE's weakness! Where in the hell were Tuitt and Hayward all night? We always seem to offer contracts to "our" guys instead of scanning thew possible free agents coming up and saying "let's go get them" ! We let Spencer go and kept Monqueef and Switz because they were vets and Tomlin nearly always defers to a vet for their experience while other teams and coaches go with the better players. Chick and Dirty Red should have been shown the door. I'm still hoping Skipper doesn't get pick up by someone else - he deserved to be here with his play during the preseason!

When was the last time the Steelers cut a guy they had under contract ??

Thats a problem

And it goes much farther back than Tomlin

[steelmann58]

NO EXCUSE for not going for it down 20-0
and like someone posted SMASH MOUTH

[K_C_]

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if our first 2 picks next April are safeties.

That wont happen

And the absoluteness I can say that with is probably a bigger problem

Nah, don't be surprised if it does.

Edmunds is an athlete, not a football player.

By the end of this season, that'll be clear to everybody.

Personally I like Sean Davis, but he's no great shakes either and the middle of the field will be exploited by our opponents over and over again.

We'll take 2 safeties in the next draft, zero doubt about it. Both, I expect, will be high draft picks.

WR and TE will both be priorities also.

[stairway 2 seven]

The reason why this team cant convert on 3rd and 1 and the reason tuitt, heyward, and watt were neutralized all game and st suck is the same. Coaching.
Tomlin
Butler
Smith
Fichtner
Terminate them with extreme prejudice.

[Stallworth16]

Early in the game, on the underthrown bomb to Holten, How was that not Moonball DPI. Didn’t the defender lock Holten’s arm and wack him before the ball arrived.

Tomlin Steelers get blown out in the opener about every other year. One thing Tomlin has been successful at is improving the team slowly after blowout. Dumping Spencer to the Broncos might have been a mistake. Moncrief is replaceable. Washington, Holton and Johnson, One of those guys will emerge.

[Obviously]

Best O-Lines in football?

Referee: "Offsides! Every offensive lineman except the center! 10-yard penalty."

Wanna get away?