The Steelers suck threads

[Mick]

If we could redo that coaching hire, knowing everything that we know now...I would hire tomlin again.

Nothing easier than predicting a team won't be champion every year until the end of time. Ohmygosh he was right! I'm now going to go out on a limb and predict denver will never win more than 1 championship with john fox as head coach.

[Legacy User]

Chemistry, loyalty, leadership, togetherness, trust, composure, etc etc etc

all are important to building a team. Not sure why anyone would dispute it.

2 things I know for a fact.

1. Ron doesn't like Tomlin because he acts black by wearing sunglasses, even though he has a white name

2. Steelers still tied for most wins in the AFC right now

[Legacy User]

2. Steelers still tied for most wins in the AFC right now

Also tied for the most losses.

[Mick]

2. Steelers still tied for most wins in the AFC right now

Also tied for the most losses.

glass half empty much?

All you've proved is that we lead the league in basically every category.

[Quixotic]

I would be okay with a season or two around 8-8, if we could restore an attitude that makes people afraid to play this team.

Then this conversation just time warped to 2011.

But here in the present where we've already endured those seasons, I've had enough already!
It's time for this team to put its money where Mike Tomlin's mouth is...

Wow. Didn’t know I was going to be quoted out of context, or that my paper was going to be graded.

Sorry, steeledge. Since it was a hypothetical, perhaps it would better have been stated, “I would have been hypothetically more okay with a season or two around 8-8, if it were hypothetically leading to a restoration of an attitude that made (hypothetical) people afraid to play this team.”

Of course, for me to root for further future losses would be kind of goofy. But then, for you to assume by my remark that I am rooting for future losses is sort of … well, whatever. Have a nice day.

[jeemie]

2. Steelers still tied for most wins in the AFC right now

Also tied for the most losses.

glass half empty much?

All you've proved is that we lead the league in basically every category.

Including rushing yards allowed?

Sorry- couldn't resist...

[Jobu]

Ron is ostracized to some degree on this board because he's his own man that takes his own positions weather they're popular or not.

His post game thoughts are generally pretty accurate. Some of his long-term prognostications have also come to fruition which infuriates those that really want to see him look stupid for taking the risk and laying his opinions out there.

I remember when RON was preaching team "chemistry" a few years back and many on this board absolutely dismissed "chemistry" as an intangible that means little in the bigger scheme of things.

I say ... BULLSHIT. Player personalities that make up "chemistry" is an absolute must on any winning team.

So team chemistry is important? Groundbreaking!!! Who'd a thunk it???

[Legacy User]

2. Steelers still tied for most wins in the AFC right now

Also tied for the most losses.

glass half empty much?

All you've proved is that we lead the league in basically every category.

I'm a big believer that it's important to understand both sides. Being overly negative is no worse than being overly positive. Best place you can be is in the middle where you can get a good view of both sides.

I was just presenting that other side, that's all.

Personally, I'm much more down on the league overall than I am the Steelers. I'm at the point where I hardly even care about the team anymore just because the overall league is so bad.

[jeemie]

I can't listen to all this "HOF" QB fucking talk with his performance since halftime last week. #7 has been clearly outplayed by opposing QB's for 6 consecutive QTRs

While I agree Ben has been bad (as in, missing open receivers when they are there for him to throw to, and making poor throwing choices), i have to ask you if you truly believe any QB could thrive under the system installed and with the players on offense that the Steelers currently have.

[steeledge]

I would be okay with a season or two around 8-8, if we could restore an attitude that makes people afraid to play this team.

Then this conversation just time warped to 2011.

But here in the present where we've already endured those seasons, I've had enough already!
It's time for this team to put its money where Mike Tomlin's mouth is...

Wow. Didn’t know I was going to be quoted out of context, or that my paper was going to be graded.

Sorry, steeledge. Since it was a hypothetical, perhaps it would better have been stated, “I would have been hypothetically more okay with a season or two around 8-8, if it were hypothetically leading to a restoration of an attitude that made (hypothetical) people afraid to play this team.”

Of course, for me to root for further future losses would be kind of goofy. But then, for you to assume by my remark that I am rooting for future losses is sort of … well, whatever. Have a nice day.

Actually, I AM having a surprisingly good day, all things considered, thanks!

And sorry, it wasn't my intention to toss a windmill in your path there, Don...

I guess what I'm saying is I agree with your original thought in spirit, but I would NOT be okay with ANOTHER season or 2 around 8-8.
We've already been there, and it's getting old!

If we could get back to being THE feared team in football (Seattle Who?), THAT would be THE fix for this team.
I'm still hopeful, believe it or not, but things haven't been trending well.
Quite the contrary, actually...

[CASTEELER]

I am also guilty of it before the game...Why I say Perch has the hardest writing assignment at the board.

After the game I try to be fair and realistic.

Someone tell me I'm wrong. I was not optimistic heading into the game. What I see on the o line terrifies me. I see only one player that plays with "bad intentions" and really good technique: DeCastro. Everyone else is technician without meanness (Pouncey), fat tubs of goo (Foster, Gilbert), or try hards with limited physical tools (Beachum). The front line is as soft as my four month old's ass. I want to be wrong. Tell me I'm wrong. All those picks, man. It's the biggest problem on offense. Holy Jobu, what could Bell be with a really good line in front of him?

Have to agree with you. The FO has sucked at bringing in talent.Everyone keeps giving Colbert a pass on the players he had success in past years but come on look at the garbage he has brought in. He killed us with huge signing on old fat players like Woodley and Colon. I remember how proud he was on drafting Mike Adams saying we got a top 10 first rounder in the second round. Why did no other team take him before us. We have the best Oline coach and without talent he can't do much with them. Look at 2009 draft , all gone. He had to take Mendenhall who was a head case and out of football now.
Last year only player drafted worthy is Bell. No one else wanted JJ in round 1.
Colbert needs to go as NFL is what have you done lately league.

[FC]

All in one.

[86n96]

A guy who's mailing it in doesn't leap the center to block a chip shot FG in garbage time

He may not be Troy Polamalu of old, but he can still close like a cat

I felt sad watching Troy do that. Sacrificing his body to make a meaningless play.

That's what captains do. Show young men what it is to play for Pittsburgh.

[Quixotic]

Wow. Didn’t know I was going to be quoted out of context, or that my paper was going to be graded.

Sorry, steeledge. Since it was a hypothetical, perhaps it would better have been stated, “I would have been hypothetically more okay with a season or two around 8-8, if it were hypothetically leading to a restoration of an attitude that made (hypothetical) people afraid to play this team.”

Of course, for me to root for further future losses would be kind of goofy. But then, for you to assume by my remark that I am rooting for future losses is sort of … well, whatever. Have a nice day.[/quote]

Actually, I AM having a surprisingly good day, all things considered, thanks!

And sorry, it wasn't my intention to toss a windmill in your path there, Don...

I guess what I'm saying is I agree with your original thought in spirit, but I would NOT be okay with ANOTHER season or 2 around 8-8.
We've already been there, and it's getting old!

If we could get back to being THE feared team in football (Seattle Who?), THAT would be THE fix for this team.
I'm still hopeful, believe it or not, but things haven't been trending well.
Quite the contrary, actually...[/quote]

Ha! Cervantes humor. I like it.

Yes. Right there with you.

[JackLambert58]

All in one.

Thanks FC. My one-stop shop for Steelers suck material.

Quixotic - same thing here. Not one person at work gave me shit today. Not one. And I live deep in the heart of Patriots territory. This after I gave them a ration on Monday after they lost to Miami.

[cop1211]

This team is void of talent, save maybe 3-4 players. They have been 8-8 2 years in a row for multiple reason age,injuries, drafting low for a number of years, and coaching.
They are in a rebuilding mode. It is what it is, it will take 2-3 years to get back "on top" with building through the draft, FA, and firing/ retirement if coaches.
I'll still route for a win every game, but won't expect it. At this time they are an average team.
That's life in the NFL.

[Obviously]

Colbert

Tomlin

Haley

Lebeau

ALL NEED TO GO! Get the fuck out. Vamoose!

[Legacy User]

What is your infatuation with Ron?

Steelers are 1-1 and not because some racist hairstylists pointed out the deficiencies

Truth hurt, bitch?

[Legacy User]

What is your infatuation with Ron?

Steelers are 1-1 and not because some racist hairstylists pointed out the deficiencies

Considering Ron once said he was coming to Toronto to tear a family member apart limb by limb - no affection but when we all said that Tomlin was a good choice for HC - Ron outright said we were doomed. I thought he may even have been temporarily banned for using the cool Shaft analogy which was deemed racist but in retrospect was apropos. It's not the 1-1 but how the team presents itself.

I appreciate that, Blu. I don't talk to hear myself. When I say something, rest assured, I mean it. Tomlin is in over his head...

[Legacy User]

Chemistry, loyalty, leadership, togetherness, trust, composure, etc etc etc

all are important to building a team. Not sure why anyone would dispute it.

2 things I know for a fact.

1. Ron doesn't like Tomlin because he acts black by wearing sunglasses, even though he has a white name

2. Steelers still tied for most wins in the AFC right now

Ron doesn't line Tomlin because he's all style, zero substance. He lacks understanding of basic football coaching fundamentals. He's all image, and it ends there.

[Legacy User]

Ron is ostracized to some degree on this board because he's his own man that takes his own positions weather they're popular or not.

His post game thoughts are generally pretty accurate. Some of his long-term prognostications have also come to fruition which infuriates those that really want to see him look stupid for taking the risk and laying his opinions out there.

I remember when RON was preaching team "chemistry" a few years back and many on this board absolutely dismissed "chemistry" as an intangible that means little in the bigger scheme of things.

I say ... BULLSHIT. Player personalities that make up "chemistry" is an absolute must on any winning team.

I always speak my mind, regardless if whether it's a popular opinion or not. I don't tow company lines, do very little rah-rah, and may not always by PC. What I say comes from my heart, and if that rubs some the wrong way and ruffles a few feathers....well, that's too God damned bad.

[Legacy User]

If we could redo that coaching hire, knowing everything that we know now...I would hire tomlin again.

Nothing easier than predicting a team won't be champion every year until the end of time. Ohmygosh he was right! I'm now going to go out on a limb and predict denver will never win more than 1 championship with john fox as head coach.

Really? That's dumb. I'd hire the guy who took a bad team and made them
good, rather than the guy who took a good team and made them bad. Ron Rivera was the guy they should've hired if they were hell bent on going outside the organization. Whiz if they were gonna stay in house.

[Legacy User]

With all of the complaining going on, i wanted to survey the board to understand the #1 complaint. Your choices:

A) Ben doesn't have enough weapons
B) Overall talent level not good enough
C) Those cheap ass Rooney's
D) Tomlin game management
E) Offense too conservative
F) LeBeau doesn't play young players
G) Steelers "easing in to" games, seasons, etc.
H) None, we're the F'ing steelers and we ride
I) Other - Write in

Sorry but you can only pick one

I'm going with D - Tomlin game management.

What's your beef?

B, without question.

[randomsteelerfan]

If we could redo that coaching hire, knowing everything that we know now...I would hire tomlin again.

Nothing easier than predicting a team won't be champion every year until the end of time. Ohmygosh he was right! I'm now going to go out on a limb and predict denver will never win more than 1 championship with john fox as head coach.

Really? That's dumb. I'd hire the guy who took a bad team and made them
good, rather than the guy who took a good team and made them bad. Ron Rivera was the guy they should've hired if they were hell bent on going outside the organization. Whiz if they were gonna stay in house.

This is completely "hindsight is 20-20" crap. Shoulda, coulda, woulda. This is very simple. Tomlin showed the same impressivness that made Dan Rooney hire Noll and Cowher. And he was right, again, to a degree. Tomlin's failings are in team building and talent evaluation. He can coach a talented team to the top of the NFL. He just can't build/re-build one.

[swissvale72]

No, he sucked

The guy who is supposed to be top 5 in the league has sucked for 75% of the season so far

I made my opinion known early and often that he needed to put this team on his back and put points on the board. He's failing at that so far. Even Bill Cowher in pregame talking about how their identity had to be offense now.

not you, too

Et tu, IC??

[swissvale72]

All in one.

Thanks FC. My one-stop shop for Steelers suck material.

Quixotic - same thing here. Not one person at work gave me shit today. Not one. And I live deep in the heart of Patriots territory. This after I gave them a ration on Monday after they lost to Miami.

Pats fan at work today, '58, said something to me about crying into my Terrible Towel. I said " Yeah, Cried into it after all SIX Super Bowls. 6 >3." That shut him the fuck up.

[swissvale72]

I am also guilty of it before the game...Why I say Perch has the hardest writing assignment at the board.

After the game I try to be fair and realistic.

See...I don't think it's that difficult, IC...and last week Perch agreed with me. Actually easier as a writer to generate the piece following a loss.

[swissvale72]

This team sucks...no doubt.

And agreed, Ron...simply isn't Steeler football.

I agree with you both with a BIG BUT.

The NFL has killed Steelers football - killed it. Its over and it aint ever coming back until they say fuck the world and the take the lawyers with you.

The NFL is trying to be everything to everybody. It sucks.

Absolutely true, Suwanee.

[Legacy User]

Some gifs

Couldn't tell if Worilds is held or just put on his ass


Worilds on his ass again


Gilbert sucks


Herp starts at the 33, ends up around the 40


Worilds gets escorted out of the play. Herp runs to nothing. Mitchell gets juked by a journeyman


3rd and 1...no resistance

[Steeldrama]

i don't see how we possibly beat Carolina.

Kelvin Beachum and Marcus Gilbert vs. Greg Hardy and Charles Johnson. You gotta be kidding me. Lotulelei up the middle with Kuechly right behind him? Yeah not a chance.

Remember, this is the front 7 that made Mike Mitchell look like a superstar last year

So if Carolina's front 7 made Mitchell look like a "superstar" last year, how awful is the Steelers' front 7 that is "making" Mike Mitchell look so horrible this year?