Duck, Defense & Dumbfuckery

[swissvale72]

This piece really isn't all that much about Duck...except that he completed 16 of 19, answered when he had to, and his name rhymes with Fuck. The rhyme alone will get him some ink from this writer. Few things...

*Little more on the fake punt, which has been talked to death. I go back to Tomlin himself having said that to win the Steelers need to avoid turnovers. Yet, he basically hands AZ a turnover. Only way Steelers were losing that game, up 10, 8 minutes left, legendary fuckin' defense (it's really approaching that level) was by giving AZ the football. You have the defense, you have an undrafted rookie QB. Don't take foolish fuckin' chances, you dumb motherfucker!! Speaking of....

*Making Tomlin's words come true....
-AZ scored 10 of its 17 points via a short field off a turnover.
-Cleveland scores 10 points total, 3 on a short field off a turnover
-Rams score 12 points, 10 of those points on turnovers, the defense actually scored those points

*People selling this offense a bit short. Past two weeks, game on the line, what does the offense do with one score leads....they keep possession of the fuckin' football, exhaust all but a minute of the clock.

*Also....call it turtling, call it not playing to win....bull-fuckin' shit...first down on the eight, two minute warning, AZ with two timeouts...run the fuckin' ball three times with the rookie QB....go up 6, get the clock down to about 1:10, dare these fucks to go 75 yards with no timeouts in a minutes. That's two weeks in a row, Steelers so-called brain trust cedes about 40 seconds to the opposition with about a minute left.

Look, contrary to popular belief, I don't hate Tomlin, I think he's done a good job with this team. It's fuckin' remarkable they're 8-5. But goddammit, I'm going to call him on his gameday fuckups, which can now fill a book. And I DO, with this defense, think they can make some noise in the playoffs.

*Just me, or besides rushing the passer with zeal and effectiveness, does Bud Dupree set the fuckin' edge, ALA James Harrison?

I think the defense brings the fuckin' heat this week against Buff. Crowd will be fuckin' juiced...THIS defense will get the Bills QB on the ground...will score some points win 16-13, Book it!!!

[Kodiak]

I thought that screen pass was a really, really dumb call. Or maybe just a rookie not making a good read.

But if you're going to risk stopping the clock to put the ball in the air, then call a play that has a shot at getting a first down.

[Jizz Mop]

Good summation SWISS

And yes, it’s mind numbing that two weeks in a row we were basically in the same situation with the opportunity to leave the opponent materially less time to drive the field

And what did we do?

Left them more time than we should have in both instances

Genius

[Jobu]

I thought that screen pass was a really, really dumb call. Or maybe just a rookie not making a good read.

But if you're going to risk stopping the clock to put the ball in the air, then call a play that has a shot at getting a first down.

I’m thinking the idea was a quick, high percentage play that if you get the block and/or slip a tackle, you get the first down and possibly TD. Unfortunately, someone got a hand on the ball...

[Jizz Mop]

I thought that screen pass was a really, really dumb call. Or maybe just a rookie not making a good read.

But if you're going to risk stopping the clock to put the ball in the air, then call a play that has a shot at getting a first down.

I’m thinking the idea was a quick, high percentage play that if you get the block and/or slip a tackle, you get the first down and possibly TD. Unfortunately, someone got a hand on the ball...

p

True

But 3 runs ensures 40 less seconds in clock for those fuckers to use to have to drive the field for win

[Jobu]

I thought that screen pass was a really, really dumb call. Or maybe just a rookie not making a good read.

But if you're going to risk stopping the clock to put the ball in the air, then call a play that has a shot at getting a first down.

I’m thinking the idea was a quick, high percentage play that if you get the block and/or slip a tackle, you get the first down and possibly TD. Unfortunately, someone got a hand on the ball...

p

True

But 3 runs ensures 40 less seconds in clock for those fuckers to use to have to drive the field for win

And your one missed tackle from losing.
A TD puts the game on ice...just saying.

[JackLambert58]

The fake punt cannot be defended by any same football fan. I'm thrilled as hell they won, but that call is easily top 5 in the most idiotic Tomlin decisions.

[JackLambert58]

This piece really isn't all that much about Duck...except that he completed 16 of 19, answered when he had to, and his name rhymes with Fuck. The rhyme alone will get him some ink from this writer. Few things...

*Little more on the fake punt, which has been talked to death. I go back to Tomlin himself having said that to win the Steelers need to avoid turnovers. Yet, he basically hands AZ a turnover. Only way Steelers were losing that game, up 10, 8 minutes left, legendary fuckin' defense (it's really approaching that level) was by giving AZ the football. You have the defense, you have an undrafted rookie QB. Don't take foolish fuckin' chances, you dumb motherfucker!! Speaking of....

*Making Tomlin's words come true....
-AZ scored 10 of its 17 points via a short field off a turnover.
-Cleveland scores 10 points total, 3 on a short field off a turnover
-Rams score 12 points, 10 of those points on turnovers, the defense actually scored those points

*People selling this offense a bit short. Past two weeks, game on the line, what does the offense do with one score leads....they keep possession of the fuckin' football, exhaust all but a minute of the clock.

*Also....call it turtling, call it not playing to win....bull-fuckin' shit...first down on the eight, two minute warning, AZ with two timeouts...run the fuckin' ball three times with the rookie QB....go up 6, get the clock down to about 1:10, dare these fucks to go 75 yards with no timeouts in a minutes. That's two weeks in a row, Steelers so-called brain trust cedes about 40 seconds to the opposition with about a minute left.

Look, contrary to popular belief, I don't hate Tomlin, I think he's done a good job with this team. It's fuckin' remarkable they're 8-5. But goddammit, I'm going to call him on his gameday fuckups, which can now fill a book. And I DO, with this defense, think they can make some noise in the playoffs.

*Just me, or besides rushing the passer with zeal and effectiveness, does Bud Dupree set the fuckin' edge, ALA James Harrison?

I think the defense brings the fuckin' heat this week against Buff. Crowd will be fuckin' juiced...THIS defense will get the Bills QB on the ground...will score some points win 16-13, Book it!!!

Would you like us to fire Tomlin and bring in freddie kitchens?

No, but I'd go for John Harbaugh or Bill Belichick if you're offering.

[Jizz Mop]

The fake punt cannot be defended by any same football fan. I'm thrilled as hell they won, but that call is easily top 5 in the most idiotic Tomlin decisions.

His book of work isn’t complete if you will.....but yes it’s up there

[swissvale72]

This piece really isn't all that much about Duck...except that he completed 16 of 19, answered when he had to, and his name rhymes with Fuck. The rhyme alone will get him some ink from this writer. Few things...

*Little more on the fake punt, which has been talked to death. I go back to Tomlin himself having said that to win the Steelers need to avoid turnovers. Yet, he basically hands AZ a turnover. Only way Steelers were losing that game, up 10, 8 minutes left, legendary fuckin' defense (it's really approaching that level) was by giving AZ the football. You have the defense, you have an undrafted rookie QB. Don't take foolish fuckin' chances, you dumb motherfucker!! Speaking of....

*Making Tomlin's words come true....
-AZ scored 10 of its 17 points via a short field off a turnover.
-Cleveland scores 10 points total, 3 on a short field off a turnover
-Rams score 12 points, 10 of those points on turnovers, the defense actually scored those points

*People selling this offense a bit short. Past two weeks, game on the line, what does the offense do with one score leads....they keep possession of the fuckin' football, exhaust all but a minute of the clock.

*Also....call it turtling, call it not playing to win....bull-fuckin' shit...first down on the eight, two minute warning, AZ with two timeouts...run the fuckin' ball three times with the rookie QB....go up 6, get the clock down to about 1:10, dare these fucks to go 75 yards with no timeouts in a minutes. That's two weeks in a row, Steelers so-called brain trust cedes about 40 seconds to the opposition with about a minute left.

Look, contrary to popular belief, I don't hate Tomlin, I think he's done a good job with this team. It's fuckin' remarkable they're 8-5. But goddammit, I'm going to call him on his gameday fuckups, which can now fill a book. And I DO, with this defense, think they can make some noise in the playoffs.

*Just me, or besides rushing the passer with zeal and effectiveness, does Bud Dupree set the fuckin' edge, ALA James Harrison?

I think the defense brings the fuckin' heat this week against Buff. Crowd will be fuckin' juiced...THIS defense will get the Bills QB on the ground...will score some points win 16-13, Book it!!!

Would you like us to fire Tomlin and bring in freddie kitchens?

There's Gameday Dumbfucks, and then there's Message Board Dumbfucks. Mike Tomlin is the former; Minkah Coates is the latter.

[steelmann58]

I am still stunned about the play calling with the Idiot Punt call but i do agree that stupid with that pass at the end of the series man run run run

[jewelsongs]

The fake punt cannot be defended by any same football fan. I'm thrilled as hell they won, but that call is easily top 5 in the most idiotic Tomlin decisions.

I love a challenge. Let's try this one.

During the coaching preparation leading up to the game, The Steelers staff notices that the Cardinals often line up with 6 in the box, two deep, and one on the weak side. This would suggest that under the right circumstance, down and distance, that a fake punt could work.

As the game plan is installed, they decide to include that, in the right down and distance. That will be the default play if the Cardinals line up in that formation. Of course, it can be called off by the coaching staff, or by the up man on the punt team.

On our first two punts during the Cardinal's game, it is called off by Jordan Dangerfield and we punt.

On the third punt, it is called off by Jordan Dangerfield, but Berry does not hear it, and thinks the fake is on, per the game plan. Clearly everyone else knows that it was called off, and no one blocks. Simply human error, not a coaching error.

After the game, Tomlin takes the blame for the call. He allowed it in the game plan, so he is technically responsible.

After the game, Berry admits he did not hear the play being called off, and thinks he is supposed to run. Human error.

Cardinals line up in the formation, game plan suggests looking at fake punt. Dangerfield calls it off. Berry doesn't hear him. I don't think Tomlin did anything wrong.

[StillMadAtSlobber]

This piece really isn't all that much about Duck...except that he completed 16 of 19, answered when he had to, and his name rhymes with Fuck. The rhyme alone will get him some ink from this writer. Few things...

*Little more on the fake punt, which has been talked to death. I go back to Tomlin himself having said that to win the Steelers need to avoid turnovers. Yet, he basically hands AZ a turnover. Only way Steelers were losing that game, up 10, 8 minutes left, legendary fuckin' defense (it's really approaching that level) was by giving AZ the football. You have the defense, you have an undrafted rookie QB. Don't take foolish fuckin' chances, you dumb motherfucker!! Speaking of....

*Making Tomlin's words come true....
-AZ scored 10 of its 17 points via a short field off a turnover.
-Cleveland scores 10 points total, 3 on a short field off a turnover
-Rams score 12 points, 10 of those points on turnovers, the defense actually scored those points

*People selling this offense a bit short. Past two weeks, game on the line, what does the offense do with one score leads....they keep possession of the fuckin' football, exhaust all but a minute of the clock.

*Also....call it turtling, call it not playing to win....bull-fuckin' shit...first down on the eight, two minute warning, AZ with two timeouts...run the fuckin' ball three times with the rookie QB....go up 6, get the clock down to about 1:10, dare these fucks to go 75 yards with no timeouts in a minutes. That's two weeks in a row, Steelers so-called brain trust cedes about 40 seconds to the opposition with about a minute left.

Look, contrary to popular belief, I don't hate Tomlin, I think he's done a good job with this team. It's fuckin' remarkable they're 8-5. But goddammit, I'm going to call him on his gameday fuckups, which can now fill a book. And I DO, with this defense, think they can make some noise in the playoffs.

*Just me, or besides rushing the passer with zeal and effectiveness, does Bud Dupree set the fuckin' edge, ALA James Harrison?

I think the defense brings the fuckin' heat this week against Buff. Crowd will be fuckin' juiced...THIS defense will get the Bills QB on the ground...will score some points win 16-13, Book it!!!

Would you like us to fire Tomlin and bring in freddie kitchens?

Do you have to post so much dumb all the time?
Is it a biological imperative or something?
Does the feeling of a keyboard under your fingers always trigger a Teret's syndrome fit?

Just because someone isn't good enough (Dumblin) means we want to pick something worse, yet apparently that mentally defective dribble is all that some Dublin defenders can vomit forth in reaction. It's off less value then the inane requirements of "Well who are we going to replace him with".

Congratulations on your resolution to settle for mediocrity because the thought of change causes you to babble and lose control of your facilities both mental and physical.

[ToddHaleysNineIron]

The fake punt cannot be defended by any same football fan. I'm thrilled as hell they won, but that call is easily top 5 in the most idiotic Tomlin decisions.

I love a challenge. Let's try this one.

During the coaching preparation leading up to the game, The Steelers staff notices that the Cardinals often line up with 6 in the box, two deep, and one on the weak side. This would suggest that under the right circumstance, down and distance, that a fake punt could work.

As the game plan is installed, they decide to include that, in the right down and distance. That will be the default play if the Cardinals line up in that formation. Of course, it can be called off by the coaching staff, or by the up man on the punt team.

On our first two punts during the Cardinal's game, it is called off by Jordan Dangerfield and we punt.

On the third punt, it is called off by Jordan Dangerfield, but Berry does not hear it, and thinks the fake is on, per the game plan. Clearly everyone else knows that it was called off, and no one blocks. Simply human error, not a coaching error.

After the game, Tomlin takes the blame for the call. He allowed it in the game plan, so he is technically responsible.

After the game, Berry admits he did not hear the play being called off, and thinks he is supposed to run. Human error.

Cardinals line up in the formation, game plan suggests looking at fake punt. Dangerfield calls it off. Berry doesn't hear him. I don't think Tomlin did anything wrong.

To me this comes down to organization.

The above scenario, as you've said before, probably happens every week. They see something that they put it for a situation should it come about. The players are given the call of, but it's there if they think they can get it.

Tomlin knows about these, Danny Smith knows about these.

The problem is the situation comes up, and neither Smith nor Tomlin either have thought about the situation before sending the punt team out, or are simply trusting players.

Attention to detail on the coaching staff ensures that all players know before going out that it's off (and I'm assuming the coaching staff would have correctly NOT wanted to fake given the situation in the game), so to avoid any miscommunication.

I'll give you an example as a college baseball assistant coach, I was responsible for moving outfielders whether it be from information gleaned from pitching charts, to the current count. In one case I failed to move our right fielder in slightly with two strikes on a hitter. The batter dumped a single in that spot. The manager was mad... not at our right fielder who should know to make that move regardless, but me for not seeing it and adjusting the outfielder.

We can say these are professionals, they get paid, blah blah blah... but so do our coaching staff on gameday - and one that is paying attention to detail makes certain there is no miscommunication - even if it seems repetitive.

[StillMadAtSlobber]

This piece really isn't all that much about Duck...except that he completed 16 of 19, answered when he had to, and his name rhymes with Fuck. The rhyme alone will get him some ink from this writer. Few things...

*Little more on the fake punt, which has been talked to death. I go back to Tomlin himself having said that to win the Steelers need to avoid turnovers. Yet, he basically hands AZ a turnover. Only way Steelers were losing that game, up 10, 8 minutes left, legendary fuckin' defense (it's really approaching that level) was by giving AZ the football. You have the defense, you have an undrafted rookie QB. Don't take foolish fuckin' chances, you dumb motherfucker!! Speaking of....

*Making Tomlin's words come true....
-AZ scored 10 of its 17 points via a short field off a turnover.
-Cleveland scores 10 points total, 3 on a short field off a turnover
-Rams score 12 points, 10 of those points on turnovers, the defense actually scored those points

*People selling this offense a bit short. Past two weeks, game on the line, what does the offense do with one score leads....they keep possession of the fuckin' football, exhaust all but a minute of the clock.

*Also....call it turtling, call it not playing to win....bull-fuckin' shit...first down on the eight, two minute warning, AZ with two timeouts...run the fuckin' ball three times with the rookie QB....go up 6, get the clock down to about 1:10, dare these fucks to go 75 yards with no timeouts in a minutes. That's two weeks in a row, Steelers so-called brain trust cedes about 40 seconds to the opposition with about a minute left.

Look, contrary to popular belief, I don't hate Tomlin, I think he's done a good job with this team. It's fuckin' remarkable they're 8-5. But goddammit, I'm going to call him on his gameday fuckups, which can now fill a book. And I DO, with this defense, think they can make some noise in the playoffs.

*Just me, or besides rushing the passer with zeal and effectiveness, does Bud Dupree set the fuckin' edge, ALA James Harrison?

I think the defense brings the fuckin' heat this week against Buff. Crowd will be fuckin' juiced...THIS defense will get the Bills QB on the ground...will score some points win 16-13, Book it!!!

Would you like us to fire Tomlin and bring in freddie kitchens?

There's Gameday Dumbfucks, and then there's Message Board Dumbfucks. Mike Tomlin is the former; Minkah Coates is the latter.

Actually, I think Minkah Coates is both.

[Orangesteel]

The fake punt cannot be defended by any same football fan. I'm thrilled as hell they won, but that call is easily top 5 in the most idiotic Tomlin decisions.

I love a challenge. Let's try this one.

During the coaching preparation leading up to the game, The Steelers staff notices that the Cardinals often line up with 6 in the box, two deep, and one on the weak side. This would suggest that under the right circumstance, down and distance, that a fake punt could work.

As the game plan is installed, they decide to include that, in the right down and distance. That will be the default play if the Cardinals line up in that formation. Of course, it can be called off by the coaching staff, or by the up man on the punt team.

On our first two punts during the Cardinal's game, it is called off by Jordan Dangerfield and we punt.

On the third punt, it is called off by Jordan Dangerfield, but Berry does not hear it, and thinks the fake is on, per the game plan. Clearly everyone else knows that it was called off, and no one blocks. Simply human error, not a coaching error.

After the game, Tomlin takes the blame for the call. He allowed it in the game plan, so he is technically responsible.

After the game, Berry admits he did not hear the play being called off, and thinks he is supposed to run. Human error.

Cardinals line up in the formation, game plan suggests looking at fake punt. Dangerfield calls it off. Berry doesn't hear him. I don't think Tomlin did anything wrong.

A communication blunder of that magnitude should not happen this deep into the season in a must win road game. Period.

Can’t look at this play/result in a vacuum. We have seen year after year of sloppiness contribute to why this team misses the playoffs. Look no further than last season where we were 7-2-1 into November and ended up missing the dance even after beating NE.

If the Steelers saw something on tape and explored a fake, then fine. Was the designed fake a play where your slow as shit Aussie punter wild have to run essentially 20 yards to pick up a first down? Well, OK, that sounds pretty goddamn stupid, and very unlikely, but whatever, I’m not a football coach.

What I can say is Berry not being in the loop about a aborted fake is unacceptable and that responsibility goes right to the top. Mike owned the error, which is good, but that crap cannot happen.

[jewelsongs]

The fake punt cannot be defended by any same football fan. I'm thrilled as hell they won, but that call is easily top 5 in the most idiotic Tomlin decisions.

I love a challenge. Let's try this one.

During the coaching preparation leading up to the game, The Steelers staff notices that the Cardinals often line up with 6 in the box, two deep, and one on the weak side. This would suggest that under the right circumstance, down and distance, that a fake punt could work.

As the game plan is installed, they decide to include that, in the right down and distance. That will be the default play if the Cardinals line up in that formation. Of course, it can be called off by the coaching staff, or by the up man on the punt team.

On our first two punts during the Cardinal's game, it is called off by Jordan Dangerfield and we punt.

On the third punt, it is called off by Jordan Dangerfield, but Berry does not hear it, and thinks the fake is on, per the game plan. Clearly everyone else knows that it was called off, and no one blocks. Simply human error, not a coaching error.

After the game, Tomlin takes the blame for the call. He allowed it in the game plan, so he is technically responsible.

After the game, Berry admits he did not hear the play being called off, and thinks he is supposed to run. Human error.

Cardinals line up in the formation, game plan suggests looking at fake punt. Dangerfield calls it off. Berry doesn't hear him. I don't think Tomlin did anything wrong.

A communication blunder of that magnitude should not happen this deep into the season in a must win road game. Period.

Can’t look at this play/result in a vacuum. We have seen year after year of sloppiness contribute to why this team misses the playoffs. Look no further than last season where we were 7-2-1 into November and ended up missing the dance even after beating NE.

If the Steelers saw something on tape and explored a fake, then fine. Was the designed fake a play where your slow as shit Aussie punter wild have to run essentially 20 yards to pick up a first down? Well, OK, that sounds pretty goddamn stupid, and very unlikely, but whatever, I’m not a football coach.

What I can say is Berry not being in the loop about a aborted fake is unacceptable and that responsibility goes right to the top. Mike owned the error, which is good, but that crap cannot happen.

You and I have disagreed in the past about whether Tomlin is a good coach. I know you think he is not, I think he is. I believe you think Tomlin is the reason we don't win playoff games. I believe Ben is the reason. I believe last years collapse was due to the kicker and players turning the ball over at inopportune times. I believe you think the collapse is due to Tomlin.

On this particular play, I am responding to the statement that any sane football fan could not defend the play. I think if you look at the play just before the snap, you would see that if we just block down on the outside of the 6 in the box, Berry might still be running. But we called off the play, and Berry didn't hear it. He said so. Neither of us know what Tomlin or specifically Smith told the players prior to entering the field. But I do know that communication is often the problem of broken plays in a football game. I don't see Tomlin being at fault here.

[jewelsongs]

The fake punt cannot be defended by any same football fan. I'm thrilled as hell they won, but that call is easily top 5 in the most idiotic Tomlin decisions.

I love a challenge. Let's try this one.

During the coaching preparation leading up to the game, The Steelers staff notices that the Cardinals often line up with 6 in the box, two deep, and one on the weak side. This would suggest that under the right circumstance, down and distance, that a fake punt could work.

As the game plan is installed, they decide to include that, in the right down and distance. That will be the default play if the Cardinals line up in that formation. Of course, it can be called off by the coaching staff, or by the up man on the punt team.

On our first two punts during the Cardinal's game, it is called off by Jordan Dangerfield and we punt.

On the third punt, it is called off by Jordan Dangerfield, but Berry does not hear it, and thinks the fake is on, per the game plan. Clearly everyone else knows that it was called off, and no one blocks. Simply human error, not a coaching error.

After the game, Tomlin takes the blame for the call. He allowed it in the game plan, so he is technically responsible.

After the game, Berry admits he did not hear the play being called off, and thinks he is supposed to run. Human error.

Cardinals line up in the formation, game plan suggests looking at fake punt. Dangerfield calls it off. Berry doesn't hear him. I don't think Tomlin did anything wrong.

To me this comes down to organization.

The above scenario, as you've said before, probably happens every week. They see something that they put it for a situation should it come about. The players are given the call of, but it's there if they think they can get it.

Tomlin knows about these, Danny Smith knows about these.

The problem is the situation comes up, and neither Smith nor Tomlin either have thought about the situation before sending the punt team out, or are simply trusting players.

Attention to detail on the coaching staff ensures that all players know before going out that it's off (and I'm assuming the coaching staff would have correctly NOT wanted to fake given the situation in the game), so to avoid any miscommunication.

I'll give you an example as a college baseball assistant coach, I was responsible for moving outfielders whether it be from information gleaned from pitching charts, to the current count. In one case I failed to move our right fielder in slightly with two strikes on a hitter. The batter dumped a single in that spot. The manager was mad... not at our right fielder who should know to make that move regardless, but me for not seeing it and adjusting the outfielder.

We can say these are professionals, they get paid, blah blah blah... but so do our coaching staff on gameday - and one that is paying attention to detail makes certain there is no miscommunication - even if it seems repetitive.

Very valid argument. What we don't know is what the coaches said to the players prior to going out on the field. It is in the realm of possibilities that they told Dangerfield, who called it off. But you are right about their need to communicate better.

[Jobu]

So the continual communication problems are not the fault or responsibility of the head coach?

You know we’re hitting a new level of apologist, when Aviators admits a fuck up, which he rarely, rarely does, and the defenders are still holding him blameless.

[Orangesteel]

So the continual communication problems are not the fault or responsibility of the head coach?

You know we’re hitting a new level of apologist, when Aviators admits a fuck up, which he rarely, rarely does, and the defenders are still holding him blameless.

According to jewelsongs, no. That is to be filed into the “Shit Happens” folder to be analyzed in March.

[ToddHaleysNineIron]

Very valid argument. What we don't know is what the coaches said to the players prior to going out on the field. It is in the realm of possibilities that they told Dangerfield, who called it off. But you are right about their need to communicate better.

Very possible it was communicated to the guy responsible for calling it off, but its evident there is a point of failure, ,a fairly big one, in the system if something like this can happen.

Honestly - my problem is with Danny Smith here, no so much Tomlin. Danny Smith's special teams have been sloppy as all hell in all areas of the game. He needs to go.

[SteelPowerful]

jewelsongs

The average individual, who is not very intelligent, has a need and or a tendency to attribute blame to individuals for mishaps, errors, etc while discounting situational factors. This tendency is magnified under certain circumstances like Tomlin's. Stop trying to reason with such individuals. It will not work. They will remain idiots, ignore reason, and believe what they want to believe until they die.

[Professor Half Wit]

jewelsongs

The average individual, who is not very intelligent, has a need and or a tendency to attribute blame to individuals for mishaps, errors, etc while discounting situational factors. This tendency is magnified under certain circumstances like Tomlin's. Stop trying to reason with such individuals. It will not work. They will remain idiots, ignore reason, and believe what they want to believe until they die.

The average individual, if he is truly average, would have average intelligence, though, yes?

[SteelPowerful]

Average intelligence is not very much just in case you missed that.

[swissvale72]

I really think it's this simple.

It should NEVER be the case that a fake punt is attempted without looking at the goddamn game situation...BECAUSE....it's a fuckin' turnover if it doesn't work.

*Might make a different decision if LOS is midfield versus your own 10.

*Might make a different decision 2 yards to go versus 15

*Might make a different mother-fuckin' decision up 10 points 8 minutes left....with a stifling defense on your side.

[Professor Half Wit]

Average intelligence is not very much just in case you missed that.

I don't think I missed what average means. It falls somewhere between below and above. By definition, average means neither excessively deficient nor superior.

[SteelPowerful]

Looks like you are average but I bet you don't think you are.

[Professor Half Wit]

Looks like you are average but I bet you don't think you are.

Assuming your conclusion follows from whatever premises you are relying on to secure it.

Only a true moron thinks he is not in need of more good sense than he already has. It is a sign of someone who is incapable of distinguishing between what is contingently and conditionally good and what is good by virtue of itself and good without condition.

[Orangesteel]

Looks like you are average but I bet you don't think you are.

How often do you see a fake punt blunder of that kind in similar game situations that failed the way that one did? Up by 10 with 8 minutes left when your defense has been stellar all game and all you need to do is punt it deep.

Looking back the last few years in games your remember around the NFL, do recall one that was that poor?

[Jizz Mop]

Bottom line is this

Only a complete dumbass calls for a fake punt, on their side of the field, with that down and distance, up 10 points with their defense playing at a high level...in the 4th quarter with 8 minutes left

Tomlin and Danny Smith are a dangerous duo....even more so than their individual levels of stupidity

Together they are some sort of Marvel Idiot super hero