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If the hall denies the all time Super Bowl wins leader and the guy second in total victories to Don Shula, it's a bigger joke than the pro bowl.StillerDownSouth wrote: ↑Tue Jan 27, 2026 11:04 pmPer Scheffter, Belichek didn't receive enough votes to become a HOF coach in his first year for eligibility, tough croud....LOL
Yet sports media probably still thinks Tomlin is a shoe in.
I cant stand that cheating, arrogant prick and even with that, this is where I am. Either your ineligible or you're not and if you're not disqualified then Spygate and Deflategate shouldn't earn a 1 year penalty.
Our friend Peter King put it best.
“Holy fuck! Oh fuck!”
That was King’s response to the news, via Don Van Natta Jr. and Seth Wickersham of ESPN.com, that former Browns and Patriots coach Bill Belichick did not qualify for the Pro Football Hall of Fame on his first try.
It’s stunning. F-bomb stunning. Double-F-bomb stunning. Belichick ranks second on the all-time wins list. He won six Super Bowls as coach of the Patriots, and two more as the defensive coordinator of the New York Giants. He’s widely regarded as one of the greatest coaches of all time, in any sport.
Belichick’s opponents apparently hung their hats on multiple cheating scandals involving the Patriots. “The only explanation [for the outcome] was the cheating stuff,” an unnamed Hall of Fame voter told ESPN.com. “It really bothered some of the guys.”
Or it was a convenient excuse to get back at someone they just don’t like.
Of the three Patriots cheating scandals, only one stuck to Belichick: Spygate I. Spygate II was never proven, and #Deflategate (a flawed, results-driven investigation with evidence of cheating that was inconclusive at best) was a Tom Brady problem. Belichick, in a memorable press conference that included a reference to Mona Lisa Vito, distanced himself from the question of whether someone was taking the air out of footballs before kickoff.
Even then, Belichick won three Super Bowls after #Deflategate happened, with no doubt that the footballs had enough air in them at all times.
I said it months ago and I’ll say it again now. The failure to put Belichick in on the first try strips the Hall of Fame and its voting process of all legitimacy and credibility. It’s a joke that he didn’t make it. Anyone who voted against his enshrinement should be stripped of the privilege, immediately.
That said, whoever it was that couldn’t set aside Belichick being a jerk to them or who have sneered at how he has conducted himself over the past year or got their way — proving yet again that no amount of power gets abused like hardly any at all.
So congratulations to those who didn’t want him in. You got your pound of flesh. At the expense of the integrity of the Pro Football Hall of Fame
Like, Bill Belichick has two fists full of Super Bowl rings. You cannot even begin to tell the story of the last 26 years of the NFL without mentioning him. It's not even possible.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Tue Jan 27, 2026 11:41 pmYou also understand that the Hall of Fame changed the voting rules a few years ago and made it very hard to elect everybody. I think it’s going to be much harder to get first ballot guys elected and even more so for coaches and contributors who are now lumped in with seniors
Yeah the Peter Kings and Bill Polians with their axes to grind is quite annoying, but Belichick cheating falls on THE LEAGUE to take away his HOF eligibility not some old, BITTER, anonymous voters.Stillerz Bar wrote: ↑Wed Jan 28, 2026 2:33 amI cant stand that cheating, arrogant prick and even with that, this is where I am. Either your ineligible or you're not and if you're not disqualified then Spygate and Deflategate shouldn't earn a 1 year penalty.
As much of a dick as he is, it's almost impossible to make a case that he doesn't belong in the HOF.
I’ve been involved for 5 years with an alternative HOF that goes through all the voting, both of old classes and of present day classes, using the current rules.CKSteeler wrote: ↑Wed Jan 28, 2026 6:13 amLike, Bill Belichick has two fists full of Super Bowl rings. You cannot even begin to tell the story of the last 26 years of the NFL without mentioning him. It's not even possible.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Tue Jan 27, 2026 11:41 pmYou also understand that the Hall of Fame changed the voting rules a few years ago and made it very hard to elect everybody. I think it’s going to be much harder to get first ballot guys elected and even more so for coaches and contributors who are now lumped in with seniors
There's no contributor or any player who has been waiting who deserved a vote before him. This is absolute insanity and these clownish voters are making a mockery of the institution that has given them any say.
Then you have Bill fucking Polian saying he can't say with 100% certainty whether he voted for him or not.
There isn't anyone besides Tom Brady with a case even on par with Belichick.
Doesn't matter how you feel about him personally. I don't want to hear about the "scandals" particularly deflategate of all things which was pretty obvious nonsense at the time and only made worse with things we've learned since.
Same assholes allowed Robert Kraft to advance. I understand the arguments related to the 'process' and the strategies that get employed. The voters themselves are keenly aware of the "first ballot" nonsense related to the halls.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:54 pmI’ve been involved for 5 years with an alternative HOF that goes through all the voting, both of old classes and of present day classes, using the current rules.CKSteeler wrote: ↑Wed Jan 28, 2026 6:13 amLike, Bill Belichick has two fists full of Super Bowl rings. You cannot even begin to tell the story of the last 26 years of the NFL without mentioning him. It's not even possible.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Tue Jan 27, 2026 11:41 pmYou also understand that the Hall of Fame changed the voting rules a few years ago and made it very hard to elect everybody. I think it’s going to be much harder to get first ballot guys elected and even more so for coaches and contributors who are now lumped in with seniors
There's no contributor or any player who has been waiting who deserved a vote before him. This is absolute insanity and these clownish voters are making a mockery of the institution that has given them any say.
Then you have Bill fucking Polian saying he can't say with 100% certainty whether he voted for him or not.
There isn't anyone besides Tom Brady with a case even on par with Belichick.
Doesn't matter how you feel about him personally. I don't want to hear about the "scandals" particularly deflategate of all things which was pretty obvious nonsense at the time and only made worse with things we've learned since.
There is a ton of pressure extertednto try and get backlogged candidates voted in so there aren’t a big pile of should-be-HOFers getting left out. So some people vote strategically. They purposely vote for guys who have been waiting a long ass time, rightly figuring Belichick will get in soon enough, but the old deserving guys might only have this chance
There’s absolutely nothing that says he has to be a first ballot HOFer, even if you and I agree he should be. This is not like his only chance to get in and it failed-that would be a completely different argument.
Joe Montana vs Bob GrieseSir Lambert wrote: ↑Wed Jan 28, 2026 4:14 pmI think the HOF is the HOF, and it's irrelevant how many years someone was passed over before being inducted.
Or in Belicheat's case vs ohhh say Mike TomlinSir Lambert wrote: ↑Wed Jan 28, 2026 4:14 pmI think the HOF is the HOF, and it's irrelevant how many years someone was passed over before being inducted.
Okay, between the players on the edge of losing eligibility, and what I just heard about them changing the rules (this year or last? Recently) so coaches only have to wait a year vs. 5 for players, I agree. Chuck Noll waited five. Vince Lombardi, Bill Walsh and Shula waited 5 and even after that weren't first ballot.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:54 pmI’ve been involved for 5 years with an alternative HOF that goes through all the voting, both of old classes and of present day classes, using the current rules.CKSteeler wrote: ↑Wed Jan 28, 2026 6:13 amLike, Bill Belichick has two fists full of Super Bowl rings. You cannot even begin to tell the story of the last 26 years of the NFL without mentioning him. It's not even possible.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Tue Jan 27, 2026 11:41 pmYou also understand that the Hall of Fame changed the voting rules a few years ago and made it very hard to elect everybody. I think it’s going to be much harder to get first ballot guys elected and even more so for coaches and contributors who are now lumped in with seniors
There's no contributor or any player who has been waiting who deserved a vote before him. This is absolute insanity and these clownish voters are making a mockery of the institution that has given them any say.
Then you have Bill fucking Polian saying he can't say with 100% certainty whether he voted for him or not.
There isn't anyone besides Tom Brady with a case even on par with Belichick.
Doesn't matter how you feel about him personally. I don't want to hear about the "scandals" particularly deflategate of all things which was pretty obvious nonsense at the time and only made worse with things we've learned since.
There is a ton of pressure extertednto try and get backlogged candidates voted in so there aren’t a big pile of should-be-HOFers getting left out. So some people vote strategically. They purposely vote for guys who have been waiting a long ass time, rightly figuring Belichick will get in soon enough, but the old deserving guys might only have this chance
There’s absolutely nothing that says he has to be a first ballot HOFer, even if you and I agree he should be. This is not like his only chance to get in and it failed-that would be a completely different argument.
They put Robert Kraft up as a contributor.Ice wrote: ↑Wed Jan 28, 2026 5:20 pmOkay, between the players on the edge of losing eligibility, and what I just heard about them changing the rules (this year or last? Recently) so coaches only have to wait a year vs. 5 for players, I agree. Chuck Noll waited five. Vince Lombardi, Bill Walsh and Shula waited 5 and even after that weren't first ballot.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:54 pmI’ve been involved for 5 years with an alternative HOF that goes through all the voting, both of old classes and of present day classes, using the current rules.CKSteeler wrote: ↑Wed Jan 28, 2026 6:13 am
Like, Bill Belichick has two fists full of Super Bowl rings. You cannot even begin to tell the story of the last 26 years of the NFL without mentioning him. It's not even possible.
There's no contributor or any player who has been waiting who deserved a vote before him. This is absolute insanity and these clownish voters are making a mockery of the institution that has given them any say.
Then you have Bill fucking Polian saying he can't say with 100% certainty whether he voted for him or not.
There isn't anyone besides Tom Brady with a case even on par with Belichick.
Doesn't matter how you feel about him personally. I don't want to hear about the "scandals" particularly deflategate of all things which was pretty obvious nonsense at the time and only made worse with things we've learned since.
There is a ton of pressure extertednto try and get backlogged candidates voted in so there aren’t a big pile of should-be-HOFers getting left out. So some people vote strategically. They purposely vote for guys who have been waiting a long ass time, rightly figuring Belichick will get in soon enough, but the old deserving guys might only have this chance
There’s absolutely nothing that says he has to be a first ballot HOFer, even if you and I agree he should be. This is not like his only chance to get in and it failed-that would be a completely different argument.
If I had a list of players close to losing eligibility that deserved it planned out, and the HOF changed the rules, I'd stick with my list.
Think how we all feel about LC Greenwood. You'd rather another fanbase's equivalent of that guy gets perma-screwed just to put Bellichick in "first ballot?"
I've totally changed my tune on this.