Flores resigns with Vikings

[Steeldrama]

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[langer]

I have a bad feeling about that guy being given the keys to an NFL franchise.

Would you let Peezy be a head coach?

[Charles Demarr]

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I will honestly be done if they hire McCarthy. I’ll walk away.

[Steeldrama]

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I will honestly be done if they hire McCarthy. I’ll walk away.

They can’t really hire McCarthy can they????

Anthony Weaver I believe was interviewed twice?

He’s a hot name for reasons unbeknownst to me

I’m holding out hope for the Rams candidates but bracing for the bad

[Obviously]

Dollars to donuts it won't be McCarthy. He's 62.

Noll, Cowher and Tomlin - all young no-names. They want to hire a young coach so they can say in 2036 or 2042 - "Only four head coaches since 1969."

[Stillerz Bar]

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Not necessarily - he can still take a head coach position like the one in Pittsburgh . Not that I want it to be him , but he's not out just yet.

NEWS: Brian Flores will not be coaching in Washington, he has re-signed with the Vikings, per Tom Pelissero. Can still leave Minny if he gets a head coaching gig, but back to the Vikings as defensive coordinator if not.

For me Flores is kind of in the middle of the pack - definitely a better choice than McCarthy and I'd prefer him over Weaver. That said, I'd take Kubiak or Shula over any of them in a heartbeat. Im.sue I'll be disappointed but my preference would be Shula as HC and Scheelhaase as OC and then someone with creative defensive chop as DC.

[Gonzo]

Hurry
He was number 1 on my list not to get
Weaver and McCarthy re next

[franco32]

Dolphins fans said Weaver is a good motivator and likes physical ball, but his schemes are bland and not creative at all. Sounds like he'd fit in with us.

[Gonzo]

Dolphins fans said Weaver is a good motivator and likes physical ball, but his schemes are bland and not creative at all. Sounds like he'd fit in with us.

what was it Coach Noll said about having to motivate his players

I am tired of hearing this Motivator crap - sure its a help if you already do the key things well
it is not a standalone - and you can motivate through hard work and action or create a mirage of it through a cadre of hand selected pets who get paid and are good mimics

[youtube]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KgW4Zm4bq5E[/youtube]

[K_C_]

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I will honestly be done if they hire McCarthy. I’ll walk away.

Oh, I'm absolutely done as a Steelers fan if it's McCarthy and frankly, I'll be fine with that.

[Steeldrama]

Yeah I don't know if I could quit my once beloved Steelers cold turkey, but I will be beyond disappointed if McCarthy gets the HC gig.

It just can't happen.

Ownership malpractice.

Someone with a working brain needs to intervene.

[franco32]

The bright side of McCarthy is that you don't have him forever. He's up there in age. I don't want him, but in a worst case scenario, I'd rather have him as a short term suffering vs. Weaver and another 20 years of hearing about "physicality" winning football games.

[Jobu]

The bright side of McCarthy is that you don't have him forever. He's up there in age.

Not much comfort to us fanboys that are also up there in age. Personally, I’m significantly older than MM. It’s annoying and disturbing that my hope of seeing another championship depends on outlasting the next head coaches tenure.

[swissvale72]

Jesus....first we have long-time Steeler fans on this esteemed website rooting for losses. Now, we have long-time Steeler fans prepared to renounce their fandom based on the coaching hire.

Maybe you guys should be locked in a room with the Bills owner.

Regardless of the hire, regardless of who's under center, I'll be rooting for Steeler wins come September.

Ohhh....BTW, Ben, worshipped by many of us, self included, would be down with a McCarthy hire.

[Ice]

Dolphins fans said Weaver is a good motivator and likes physical ball, but his schemes are bland and not creative at all. Sounds like he'd fit in with us.

what was it Coach Noll said about having to motivate his players

I am tired of hearing this Motivator crap - sure its a help if you already do the key things well
it is not a standalone - and you can motivate through hard work and action or create a mirage of it through a cadre of hand selected pets who get paid and are good mimics

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This. You have a decade and a half of evidence to show you what "being a great motivator" and nothing else will get you as an NFL coach, and that's if you start with a Super Bowl roster, a great locker room culture, established Pro Bowl vets and a HOF QB.

[jeemie]

Jesus....first we have long-time Steeler fans on this esteemed website rooting for losses. Now, we have long-time Steeler fans prepared to renounce their fandom based on the coaching hire.

Maybe you guys should be locked in a room with the Bills owner.

Regardless of the hire, regardless of who's under center, I'll be rooting for Steeler wins come September.

Ohhh....BTW, Ben, worshipped by many of us, self included, would be down with a McCarthy hire.

If hiring McCarthy is a step to make sure Rodgers sticks around another year...this will essentially be a reset of how the Steelers managed their roster pre-noll- holding on to and trading for aging vets (giving up draft picks to do so) to try and "stay competitive".

Is this what you would root for? A complete reset to pre-Noll philosophy?

I ask this of you because you saw what that looked like.

[.Kodiak]

It's one thing to be thorough in your search, it's another to appear to have been wholly unprepared.

2-3 years ago they gave Tomlin a soft mandate to "win playoff games". So they KNEW they were more likely than not to be searching within a few years. Should have done their homework and had a shortlist - 4 or 5 guys and move quick to get the guy you want.

I'm not wetting the bed over what the process could potentially signal. I think worst case (and it could be pretty bad) is they think Tomlin doing an apprenticeship under Lebeau/Arians worked so well they want to recreate it. Could be Flores and McCarthy and some young dude who can bullshit with the best of them. Pray he absorbs some Xs and Os from the other guys...

[CKSteeler]

Jesus....first we have long-time Steeler fans on this esteemed website rooting for losses. Now, we have long-time Steeler fans prepared to renounce their fandom based on the coaching hire.

Maybe you guys should be locked in a room with the Bills owner.

Regardless of the hire, regardless of who's under center, I'll be rooting for Steeler wins come September.

Ohhh....BTW, Ben, worshipped by many of us, self included, would be down with a McCarthy hire.

Ben says a lot of dumb shit.

[CKSteeler]

There's a lot of smoke with Flores in general. How he behaves. Don't have all the specifics but he has pissed a lot of people off and reportedly has had issues in Minnesota. He's looking to move back up at some point it seems like. Don't know if that's a guy I'd trust around a young, inexperienced head coach but that's off the table now regardless with this.

Flores allegedly did well in PIttsburgh for a year, but it was a year and he was on his best behavior so he could try and move up. A negative recommendation from Tomlin and Art II at that time would have sunk his entire career.

It's head coach or DC in Minnesota for him regardless now.

I'd avoid him. I fully believe he deserved more cracks at the job in Miami. But I never saw anything where I was really blown away and McDaneil frankly outperformed him.

[swissvale72]

Jesus....first we have long-time Steeler fans on this esteemed website rooting for losses. Now, we have long-time Steeler fans prepared to renounce their fandom based on the coaching hire.

Maybe you guys should be locked in a room with the Bills owner.

Regardless of the hire, regardless of who's under center, I'll be rooting for Steeler wins come September.

Ohhh....BTW, Ben, worshipped by many of us, self included, would be down with a McCarthy hire.

If hiring McCarthy is a step to make sure Rodgers sticks around another year...this will essentially be a reset of how the Steelers managed their roster pre-noll- holding on to and trading for aging vets (giving up draft picks to do so) to try and "stay competitive".

Is this what you would root for? A complete reset to pre-Noll philosophy?

I ask this of you because you saw what that looked like.

I think a couple things can be true at the same time, Jeems. Seems like over the years, McCarthy has always been undervalued on this site, until not long ago most asshats herein ranking him behind Tomlin. Dude did win 12 games three times working for Jerry jones and actually won a playoff game. I've always considered him a strong offensive mind. I'm honestly a bit fascinated by the story of a McCarthy/Rodgers reunion...and, does Aaron continue to work with Will Howard to see what we have there.

Won't be a return to the pre-Noll days where we're trading the draft picks we!ve amassed. But is the only other viable alternative to root for a 4-13 season and a top 5 or 10 draft pick?

I'm not necessarily rooting for a McCarthy hire but I'm certainly not going to look for the highest bridge and renounce my Steeler fandom if that's how it goes down.

As far as who I'm rooting for...Shula or Klint Kubiak.

[CKSteeler]

McCarthy isn't some godawful coach, but he has also always had a QB. Maybe he can help find one.

But he's also a lot like Tomlin. You know what you're getting there. His team's even when they were good imploded when it mattered most. There's like a .01% chance he strings something together and wins a ring in a real good situation or if the stars align, but that's just not what I think they should be swinging for here.

McCarthy is just kind of more of the same only with a more offensive bent which seems to be Ben's focus. And it wouldn't surprise me if Ben has what he feels to be some inside information and just wants to be "right."

But Rodgers shouldn't factor into the decision at all. If they want to make it look like they want to keep him to appease a few guys on the roster, I think it's a dumb waste of time. But you may get one more year out of Rodgers. The head coach is being picked to ideally lead the team for like the next decade.

So what are we talking about here?

[swissvale72]

McCarthy isn't some godawful coach, but he has also always had a QB. Maybe he can help find one.

But he's also a lot like Tomlin. You know what you're getting there. His team's even when they were good imploded when it mattered most. There's like a .01% chance he strings something together and wins a ring in a real good situation or if the stars align, but that's just not what I think they should be swinging for here.

McCarthy is just kind of more of the same only with a more offensive bent which seems to be Ben's focus. And it wouldn't surprise me if Ben has what he feels to be some inside information and just wants to be "right."

But Rodgers shouldn't factor into the decision at all. If they want to make it look like they want to keep him to appease a few guys on the roster, I think it's a dumb waste of time. But you may get one more year out of Rodgers. The head coach is being picked to ideally lead the team for like the next decade.

So what are we talking about here?

This is going to sound dumb and I know it IS dumb...but I like that McCarthy's a yinzer, sounds like a yinzer, strong yinzer roots, dad owns a bar, Pittsburgh firefighter, from Greenfield, home of Big Jim's Tavern, from the 15217 zip code where I'm from 15218, shit like that.

So in that respect, I think it would be cool and I like seeing Aaron play when he's not pressured too much. Getting rid of Arthur Smith and his fascination with Jonnu Smith, constant substitutions etc would be a plus.

All that said, give me Shula or Klint.

Oh...have I said that I HATED the Pickens trade. If that was Tomlin's doing, even more reason to be glad he's gone

[Deebo]

Jesus....first we have long-time Steeler fans on this esteemed website rooting for losses. Now, we have long-time Steeler fans prepared to renounce their fandom based on the coaching hire.

Maybe you guys should be locked in a room with the Bills owner.

Regardless of the hire, regardless of who's under center, I'll be rooting for Steeler wins come September.

Ohhh....BTW, Ben, worshipped by many of us, self included, would be down with a McCarthy hire.

Ben says a lot of dumb shit.

Yea I LOVED LOVED LOVED Ben as a player but his post-football takes are a bunch of yikes.

[Deebo]

McCarthy isn't some godawful coach, but he has also always had a QB. Maybe he can help find one.

But he's also a lot like Tomlin. You know what you're getting there. His team's even when they were good imploded when it mattered most. There's like a .01% chance he strings something together and wins a ring in a real good situation or if the stars align, but that's just not what I think they should be swinging for here.

McCarthy is just kind of more of the same only with a more offensive bent which seems to be Ben's focus. And it wouldn't surprise me if Ben has what he feels to be some inside information and just wants to be "right."

But Rodgers shouldn't factor into the decision at all. If they want to make it look like they want to keep him to appease a few guys on the roster, I think it's a dumb waste of time. But you may get one more year out of Rodgers. The head coach is being picked to ideally lead the team for like the next decade.

So what are we talking about here?

This is going to sound dumb and I know it IS dumb...but I like that McCarthy's a yinzer, sounds like a yinzer, strong yinzer roots, dad owns a bar, Pittsburgh firefighter, from Greenfield, home of Big Jim's Tavern, from the 15217 zip code where I'm from 15218, shit like that.

So in that respect, I think it would be cool and I like seeing Aaron play when he's not pressured too much. Getting rid of Arthur Smith and his fascination with Jonnu Smith, constant substitutions etc would be a plus.

All that said, give me Shula or Klint.

Oh...have I said that I HATED the Pickens trade. If that was Tomlin's doing, even more reason to be glad he's gone

McCarthy is just like Tomlin, except on the other side of the ball. He'll get you to .500 but nothing beyond that. I don't want another high floor/low ceiling guy. I want someone who takes risks in order to achieve greatness.

Look at the Rams- they have a losing record after their SB. While that was due to injury to Stafford they took their medicine instead of throwing out a 1st round pick just to try and remain competitive. Fuck that noise.

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[.Kodiak]

I don't think Rodgers has any interest, at all, in playing for McCarthy.

Probably cost him at least 1 trip to the SB, if not more. I think Rodgers played a role in McCarthy getting canned in GB. If McCarthy is the choice, it ISN'T to get Rodgers to come back.

[CKSteeler]

I don't think Rodgers has any interest, at all, in playing for McCarthy.

Probably cost him at least 1 trip to the SB, if not more. I think Rodgers played a role in McCarthy getting canned in GB. If McCarthy is the choice, it ISN'T to get Rodgers to come back.

This is what I would have thought too but you have weird reports linking the two together and supposedly Rodgers telling people he would play for him again. How true any of that is, who the fuck knows.

[swissvale72]

How's this?

Shula HC
Scheelhaase OC
Rodgers QB Coach?? (He liked living in Green Bay, seems to like Pittsburgh....go with Howard & Rudolph next year...see who comes out on top)

[lifelongsteel]

Not sure if the dude quit or signed a new deal. Crazy that the same word has almost completely opposite meanings.

I'm going to use "re ups" and "quits" from now on

[.Kodiak]

Crazy that the same word has almost completely opposite meanings.

Actually, one is spelled "resign" and the other "re-sign". In one case, the 's' sounds like an 's', in the other it's a 'z' sound.

[Gonzo]

i think i would be more upset bringing rodgers back than hiring mccarthy

maybe mccarthy somehow brings change
rodgers is clear cut business as usual

and anyone who wants him back apparently has amnesia about how he played against any good defense at the end of the year