IND v ORG

[langer]

Dang this Indiana QB is good.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

ARod-2 decades=Mendoza

[jeemie]

What an absolute thrashing.

Oregon supposedly had this game "circled on the calendar".

Indiana says "fuck you, Ducks".

[StillerDownSouth]

That escalated quickly, holy shit.

[langer]

This guy is insane.

[K_C_]

Been pounding the Mendoza drum for awhile.

He has the chance to finish one of the greatest seasons by a QB in college football history.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

crazy how they keep getting better and better every game

[.Kodiak]

Been pounding the Mendoza

No comment

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

What a drubbing

[Dan Smith--BYU]

he's also a fluid color commentator already in addition to QB skills

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

he's also a fluid color commentator already in addition to QB skills

My gosh yeah. Big things ahead for the big M

[jebrick]

This guy is insane.

I think his throws in this game are very Joe Burrow like. Pinpoint accuracy and zip on those out routes.

[jebrick]

Been pounding the Mendoza drum for awhile.

He has the chance to finish one of the greatest seasons by a QB in college football history.

A long way behind Burrow's season but LSU had a suckass defense so Burrow had to score a lot of TDs. Indiana is a quality team. amazing that the coach values production over a HS rating. Has he not gotten the memo?

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Rivals HS ratings are often skewed because magnet athletic schools like IMG or Mater Dei or the Boscos have so much talent.

DJU of Clemson OSU and FSU was five star but his O line and backfield talent at St. John Bosco was so good his deficiencies were never evident at the time.

He bombed and even regressed in college.

[bradshaw2ben]

Indiana was magnificent in their last three games.

I'm a little worried bout the next matchup, though.

Miami has grown ass men, too, plus this will be the first time Indiana's OL/DL aren't a big advantage for them, AND Miami is playing at home. granted it will be nearly all Indiana fans, because it'll be like playing the Steelers and their fans in the Super Bowl... but Indiana is going to get all it can handle vs MIA. I think it will come down to Carson Beck being the weak link... but you have to put him in position where he's pressured for that to happen.

[Steelperch]

He’s got good accuracy and size but is a bit stiff athletically. Watch the National Title game and see how often he throws to predetermined players or his first read. It’s just about every down. That’s something he’ll have to improve on the NFL. He could work like a Jared Goff with the right coaching and playmakers around him. Or be an unathletic statue in the pocket that gets killed for the Raiders. Depends where he ends up.

[StillerDownSouth]

He’s got good accuracy and size but is a bit stiff athletically. Watch the National Title game and see how often he throws to predetermined players or his first read. It’s just about every down. That’s something he’ll have to improve on the NFL. He could work like a Jared Goff with the right coaching and playmakers around him. Or be an unathletic statue in the pocket that gets killed for the Raiders. Depends where he ends up.

I agree Perch, he's very much a product of his system in college, a lot of first read throws, could maybe become a poor man's Goff, or could be a huge bust, if he gets drafted by the Raiders I would lean bust, just depends on who they bring in to coach. As for Dante Moore, the other QB in this game and the 1st or 2nd best prospect in the upcoming draft according to "experts", he looks like he needs to stay in school.

[jebrick]

He’s got good accuracy and size but is a bit stiff athletically. Watch the National Title game and see how often he throws to predetermined players or his first read. It’s just about every down. That’s something he’ll have to improve on the NFL. He could work like a Jared Goff with the right coaching and playmakers around him. Or be an unathletic statue in the pocket that gets killed for the Raiders. Depends where he ends up.

That is the IU offense from day 1. If he can stand in the pocket he can fling it with the best of them but he loses a lot of velocity if he has to move off platform. Something they could work on with him.

[K_C_]

Been pounding the Mendoza drum for awhile.

He has the chance to finish one of the greatest seasons by a QB in college football history.

A long way behind Burrow's season but LSU had a suckass defense so Burrow had to score a lot of TDs. Indiana is a quality team. amazing that the coach values production over a HS rating. Has he not gotten the memo?

Burrow was throwing to elite, superstar level WR’s on a team loaded with 5 stars.

Mendoza is going to be IU’s only first round pick this April, unless some team is smart enough to realize Ponds is an incredible talent at corner.

Fernando’s WR’s and TE’s came, literally, from nowhere. IU has zero 5 star players and only a handful of 4 star players.

What Mendoza is doing with the talent IU has on offense is goddamn near supernatural.

[bradshaw2ben]

Been pounding the Mendoza drum for awhile.

He has the chance to finish one of the greatest seasons by a QB in college football history.

A long way behind Burrow's season but LSU had a suckass defense so Burrow had to score a lot of TDs. Indiana is a quality team. amazing that the coach values production over a HS rating. Has he not gotten the memo?

Burrow was throwing to elite, superstar level WR’s on a team loaded with 5 stars.

Mendoza is going to be IU’s only first round pick this April, unless some team is smart enough to realize Ponds is an incredible talent at corner.

Fernando’s WR’s and TE’s came, literally, from nowhere. IU has zero 5 star players and only a handful of 4 star players.

What Mendoza is doing with the talent IU has on offense is goddamn near supernatural.

I mean, Indiana 3 WRs are as good as it gets. Surrat and Cooper are very likely 2nd round picks and Becker has a legit shot to be WR1 in the draft next year. You may be undervaluing how good they are.

[K_C_]

A long way behind Burrow's season but LSU had a suckass defense so Burrow had to score a lot of TDs. Indiana is a quality team. amazing that the coach values production over a HS rating. Has he not gotten the memo?

Burrow was throwing to elite, superstar level WR’s on a team loaded with 5 stars.

Mendoza is going to be IU’s only first round pick this April, unless some team is smart enough to realize Ponds is an incredible talent at corner.

Fernando’s WR’s and TE’s came, literally, from nowhere. IU has zero 5 star players and only a handful of 4 star players.

What Mendoza is doing with the talent IU has on offense is goddamn near supernatural.

I mean, Indiana 3 WRs are as good as it gets. Surrat and Cooper are very likely 2nd round picks and Becker has a legit shot to be WR1 in the draft next year. You may be undervaluing how good they are.

Becker was a 3 star from Nashville who literally didn’t do anything as a freshman and didn’t start making any plays until the Penn State game this year. He was a complete unknown just a few months ago.

Sarratt played at St Francis (!!) and James Madison (he was a 2 star recruit) before finding his way to Bloomington. His stats are off the charts this season and both Elijah’s hard work and having a surgical level QB (especially throwing the back shoulder) has made Sarratt close to unstoppable. The back shoulder Mendoza threw to Sarratt yesterday, while the DB was literally tackling Sarratt but the ball was so perfectly thrown, it stuck to Sarratt’s chest and was caught sums up how perfectly that WR and his QB work together.

Cooper was a 4 star who is productive as all fuck but he will have the same issue Sarratt will have at the next level: they both lack speed. I look forward to seeing what they run at the combine but I don’t expect it will be pretty. As great as Mendoza has been this year, those dudes don’t need much separation. He’s putting the ball where only his WR’s can catch it.

[jebrick]

I would remind you that Ciggnetti does not care about the number of stars a player was given but only for production ( when he is getting them from the portal).

[franco32]

I didn't realize how much Dante Moore can be slow to process and stare down receivers. He really should stay in school.

[K_C_]

I didn't realize how much Dante Moore can be slow to process and stare down receivers. He really should stay in school.

Agreed. IU’s pass rush really ramped up in the second half but early in that game especially, Moore took forever to decide where to go with the ball and he has virtually no pocket presence.

I’m thoroughly unimpressed with Moore.

[K_C_]

I would remind you that Ciggnetti does not care about the number of stars a player was given but only for production ( when he is getting them from the portal).

While that’s accurate, it’s still one helluva leap to be productive at St Francis like Sarratt or even JMU and then being productive in the B1G against teams like OSU and Oregon.

I think it has a lot more to do with finding players that will put in an immense amount of work and will buy into doing things exactly the way Cig wants them to do it.

Very reminiscent of how Bob Knight coached.

[Steeldrama]

Saban has been effusive in his praise for Cignetti’s eye for talent and more important finding productive players that bleed football.

Portal era made for keen talent evaluators like Cig.

Sure it helps to have a billionaire like Mark Cuban stepping up to support the program but no school should apologize for that

Embrace it

Capitalize on it

Coaches like Dabo Sweeney who whine about this new era of college football are getting boat raced.

There’s never been a turnaround in college ball like this.

Howard Schellenberger and later Jimmy Johnson turned around the ‘Canes closest I can remember

Anyway

I dig Mendoza

Type of kid you want your daughter to bring home

Man I hope by some miracle he doesn’t go to the Raiders

Maybe Brady will hire someone off the Shanahan/McVay tree who can maximize his intelligence and fit him into a proven qb friendly system but history not in their favor

Speaking of Brady

I see Mendoza somewhere between Mac Jones and Tom Brady in that while he will win you a lot of football games he won’t always look pretty doing it.

Maybe like a Phillip Rivers ceiling?

Gotta find the right coach in an organization a helluva lot better than the Raiders

Should be a PHYSICAL national title game

Even though I’m an SEC guy, I’m glad to see such a fun UNEXPECTED matchup.

In the end, Heisman -Doza shits all over Carson Beck

I hope Hoosier nation takes over Hard Rock Stadium just like they did the Benz last night

Hoo-Hoo- HOOSIERS!

[955876]

I would remind you that Ciggnetti does not care about the number of stars a player was given but only for production ( when he is getting them from the portal).

Jibbs would go for the bright shiny objects then underperform with them.

[Steelperch]

Been pounding the Mendoza drum for awhile.

He has the chance to finish one of the greatest seasons by a QB in college football history.

A long way behind Burrow's season but LSU had a suckass defense so Burrow had to score a lot of TDs. Indiana is a quality team. amazing that the coach values production over a HS rating. Has he not gotten the memo?

Burrow was throwing to elite, superstar level WR’s on a team loaded with 5 stars.

Mendoza is going to be IU’s only first round pick this April, unless some team is smart enough to realize Ponds is an incredible talent at corner.

Fernando’s WR’s and TE’s came, literally, from nowhere. IU has zero 5 star players and only a handful of 4 star players.

What Mendoza is doing with the talent IU has on offense is goddamn near supernatural.

Mendoza is another nobody from Cal just like his receivers. Indiana is a bunch of 5th and 6th year Seniors beating up on 4 star underclassmen from the bigger programs, Where the big name SEC and B1G schools have focused on the elite high school kids forever, Cignetti found a glitch in the matrix. He figured out you can beat elite talented young kids with very experienced and mature 23 year olds.

This further cements my draft grading thoughts of previous years. A guy like Kenny Pickett who was mud for 4 years in college then dominates one season at 24 years old tells you to avoid that player. They aren’t great, they are just an adult beating up on kids.

[tbsteel]

I thought this was going to be a topic about individual vs. organizational issues.

[Jizz Mop]

A long way behind Burrow's season but LSU had a suckass defense so Burrow had to score a lot of TDs. Indiana is a quality team. amazing that the coach values production over a HS rating. Has he not gotten the memo?

Burrow was throwing to elite, superstar level WR’s on a team loaded with 5 stars.

Mendoza is going to be IU’s only first round pick this April, unless some team is smart enough to realize Ponds is an incredible talent at corner.

Fernando’s WR’s and TE’s came, literally, from nowhere. IU has zero 5 star players and only a handful of 4 star players.

What Mendoza is doing with the talent IU has on offense is goddamn near supernatural.

Mendoza is another nobody from Cal just like his receivers. Indiana is a bunch of 5th and 6th year Seniors beating up on 4 star underclassmen from the bigger programs, Where the big name SEC and B1G schools have focused on the elite high school kids forever, Cignetti found a glitch in the matrix. He figured out you can beat elite talented young kids with very experienced and mature 23 year olds.

This further cements my draft grading thoughts of previous years. A guy like Kenny Pickett who was mud for 4 years in college then dominates one season at 24 years old tells you to avoid that player. They aren’t great, they are just an adult beating up on kids.

Great post and totally agree