Shedeur Sanders

[Steeldrama]

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... ur-sanders

I do so LOVE college football.

The tradition

The pageantry

It's appointment TV for me.

The NFL is NOT.

Mike Tomlin personally saw to that.

If Mike and the Steelers want me back, they damn well better find a quarterback.

I've been posting all offseason I'd enjoy the Aaron Rodgers train wreck just so I can stop fast forwarding past his weekly appearance on McAfee.

The once upon a time diehard Pittsburgh Steelers fan in me actually wants your beloved team to succeed.
To do so, they will need to do a helluva lot better than Rodgers and the other scrub qbs left on the free agent scrap heap.

The past two seasons ONE team other than Georgia and Alabama has become a Saturday must see for me.

The Colorado Buffaloes

Coach Prime and his son Shedeur are an EXTREMELY entertaining watch.

Shedeur spends half the game running for his life and the other half making insane off platform throws to Suwanee, GA's own Travis Hunter.

Former NFL Head Coach Pat Shermur spent this past season as Deion's OC out in picturesque Boulder, CO.

In the above article, he vouches for his qb. Raving about his confidence (I don't find him cocky).

If Omar wants to climb above bean counter status, he trades up and drafts Deion Sanders' son IHell, maybe he falls to 21).

Sure, the cynic in all of us believes Tomlin would fuck up a wet dream of Pat Mahomes, Josh Allen or Joe Burrow.

Shedeur may never reach THAT tier, but he's a MUCH more entertaining draw for me, the now casual Steelers viewer, than Kirk freaking Cousins or whatever other jabroni walks through those dingy South Side doors this week.

[.Kodiak]

You will get NHALS and you will like it!

[955876]

I hope we draft Sanders too.

It’ll take Deion bout 3 weeks before he starts chirping bout how incompetent the Steelers offensive coaches are.

Well, all of our coaches but you get the point.

[StillerDownSouth]

It's weird, was looking at several mock drafts today, strange to see a prospect slotted as high as number 2 overall, and in others not even picked in the 1st round....if he is there at 21 Steelers should probably roll the dice, of maybe even trade back to the 26-28 range and see if he is still there, if not maybe roll with Jaxon Dart...if they end up with neither then should just go ahead and roll with Skylar Thompson and a late round QB prospect, trade out of the 1st round and acquire more picks and tank for Manning, which would be the strategy I prefer they go with, I'm sure most Steeler fans could endure a 4 win season with the hopes of landing the next franchise QB next year.

[franco32]

We have to learn from the past. No point reaching for a QB this year early if the better ones are probably coming out next yr. Just draft a project like McCord in the 4th.

[CKSteeler]

If they don't get a vet or they end up with someone like Kirk Cousins, they're going to draft a QB in the first two rounds.

NHALS could be a stake!

[Professor Half Wit]

I'm so glad the Steelers had so much cap space.

It is so subtarded not to have signed Fields. I'm hearing on podcasts they told Fields they would not put him under contract as designated starter and would bring in competition AND they low-balled Fields.

Man, that's a lot of stupid.

Now we're looking at Rodgers vs Wilson who will both cost more than Fields.

So, so, so very stupid.

Can't wait for the first round crappy QB overreach.

Watt probably get 50 million a year guaranteed, now, and go down in game three.

[jebrick]

I do not think Sanders falls out of the top 10 but if he does get past Miami, he will fall all the way to 21

[955876]

I'm so glad the Steelers had so much cap space.

It is so subtarded not to have signed Fields. I'm hearing on podcasts they told Fields they would not put him under contract as designated starter and would bring in competition AND they low-balled Fields.

Man, that's a lot of stupid.

Now we're looking at Rodgers vs Wilson who will both cost more than Fields.

So, so, so very stupid.

Can't wait for the first round crappy QB overreach.

Watt probably get 50 million a year guaranteed, now, and go down in game three.

Yep. All this.

Fields isn’t the answer to a championship IMO as he is just too spotty as a passer.

However, he might get better while his floor isn’t worse than the other old and broken options they are looking at.

Plus, Fields brings that added dimension.

He was the best option out there to hold down the fort till they find someone in the draft.

Duh.

But we are on the Island of Misfit Toys so will do what we do.

[.Kodiak]

Rudolph as a rookie showed great touch and timing on the screens, which I'm sure Arthur Smith will LOVE.

Fields not remotely worth $16M more per year than Rudolph. Maybe an extra regular season win or two, but so what?

PIT saw Fields every day in practice and through 6 games. They probably saw what we all did - which was Fields is not a starting-caliber passer of the football.


I'll give Khan some credit here for holding the line, because you KNOW Tomlin wanted Fields or Wilson, or Rodgers, but Khan is not willing to overpay. Guess we still have to wait and see the next domino to fall.

[.Kodiak]

On a related note, our friend Ryan Clark claimed criticism of Shedeur is based on race.

So I guess Ryan quit watching the NFL after he retired.

[RealSwiss]

We have to learn from the past. No point reaching for a QB this year early if the better ones are probably coming out next yr. Just draft a project like McCord in the 4th.

With NHALS in jeopardy, is Tomlin more likely to reach for a 1st round QB or RB?

[Professor Half Wit]

Rudolph as a rookie showed great touch and timing on the screens, which I'm sure Arthur Smith will LOVE.

Fields not remotely worth $16M more per year than Rudolph. Maybe an extra regular season win or two, but so what?

PIT saw Fields every day in practice and through 6 games. They probably saw what we all did - which was Fields is not a starting-caliber passer of the football.


I'll give Khan some credit here for holding the line, because you KNOW Tomlin wanted Fields or Wilson, or Rodgers, but Khan is not willing to overpay. Guess we still have to wait and see the next domino to fall.

This assumes Khan gets to make that call or has The Wire suction to overrule Tomlin. Does he? I sure as hell don't know.

[jebrick]

Rudolph as a rookie showed great touch and timing on the screens, which I'm sure Arthur Smith will LOVE.

Fields not remotely worth $16M more per year than Rudolph. Maybe an extra regular season win or two, but so what?

PIT saw Fields every day in practice and through 6 games. They probably saw what we all did - which was Fields is not a starting-caliber passer of the football.


I'll give Khan some credit here for holding the line, because you KNOW Tomlin wanted Fields or Wilson, or Rodgers, but Khan is not willing to overpay. Guess we still have to wait and see the next domino to fall.

This assumes Khan gets to make that call or has The Wire suction to overrule Tomlin. Does he? I sure as hell don't know.

If Khan/Wedhl get the call it will be Dline or oline

[.Kodiak]

If Khan/Wedhl get the call it will be Dline or oline

We were talking about how much influence Khan has to draw the line over cost for FA targets.

The draft apparently goes something like R1 is basically all Tomlin (with input from Khan/Weidl), and the second and third pick go to the OC and DC. Position coaches get a say in later rounds.

If that is indeed their process, that seems more than a little lazy. But maybe just over-simplified and means when they get around to drafting receiver, the WR coach gets the major say.

[Baltostiller]

I would rather have colonel Sanders. Prime's kid is a dumpster fire waiting to happen. Give me Rudolph all day long.

[AirRescueFF]

It would be a monumental task to keep those egos in check.

[Deebo]

On a related note, our friend Ryan Clark claimed criticism of Shedeur is based on race.

So I guess Ryan quit watching the NFL after he retired.

Selling "race" is what gets clicks in today's America.

[jebrick]

If Khan/Wedhl get the call it will be Dline or oline

We were talking about how much influence Khan has to draw the line over cost for FA targets.

The draft apparently goes something like R1 is basically all Tomlin (with input from Khan/Weidl), and the second and third pick go to the OC and DC. Position coaches get a say in later rounds.

If that is indeed their process, that seems more than a little lazy. But maybe just over-simplified and means when they get around to drafting receiver, the WR coach gets the major say.

I would disagree based on the last 2 drafts. They have Weidl's fingerprints all over them. I do not discount that Tomlin has a big influence but the last 2 drafts have been more like the Eagles than the Colbert Steelers

[.Kodiak]

Just saw an article (probably AI-generated click bait) saying Shedeur could slip all the way to the Steelers.

[jebrick]

Just saw an article (probably AI-generated click bait) saying Shedeur could slip all the way to the Steelers.

Again, if he makes it past Miami at 13 he could fall to the Steelers. I just doubt he makes it out of the top 10

[Stlcrtn1974]

I hope we draft Sanders too.

It’ll take Deion bout 3 weeks before he starts chirping bout how incompetent the Steelers offensive coaches are.

Well, all of our coaches but you get the point.

That is the exact reason why Tomlin won't draft him.

[LakecrestSteeler]

I would rather have colonel Sanders. Prime's kid is a dumpster fire waiting to happen. Give me Rudolph all day long.

You are crazy.

Sticking with Drama’s premise….you know what Bibberty is…he is fucking white rice next to a piece of chicken. AKA shitty ratings!

If Shadeur is gettable, without breaking the bank, then grab him. It will be exciting TV and I will actually want to watch a Steeler game again. That is why they should have signed Fields too. You never know what tomorrow brings. Could be a rash of QB injuries in college and the NFL and all that is available next year for the Steelers is perceived chopped liver.

Was so tired of watching Najee flail. WRs run sprints all day. QB playing ubertarded safe. Then watch red faced Watt crash the line. Pedestrian IMLB play. Watch Minkah lineup in one of the parking lots to play safety. And Boz kick 3 so they can get blown up in the playoffs.

Give me the action hero with the genetics of one of the greatest athletes in all of sport! At least, until Tomlin is gone so I have something to watch. And I could see Prime working it so Tomlin was outed and a suitable replacement was found for his son.

Then draft another QB in 2026.

Rather watch 6-11 with Shadeur and no tape game plans than 11 and 7 with Rudolph. We have had good luck with Buffaloes picks!

[Havoc]

Signing Sanders would inject life and entertainment into a stale franchise.

Steelers would be interesting again. I'd even be ok with the Deion presence

Edit: after reading the scouting report Lake posted I changed my mind

[LakecrestSteeler]

Awful write-up at NFL.com

Wouldn’t want that QB:

Analysis
By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst


Overview
Any perceptions that Sanders is a product of Heisman Trophy-winner Travis Hunter’s greatness are slowly dispelled once you hit the tape. He’s seen mixed results under an intensely bright spotlight, but there are no signs his confidence has ever wavered. Sanders possesses a baseline of poise, savvy and accuracy, traits that are integral in becoming an NFL starter. He’s slow-twitch with standard arm talent and a longer release, but he worked around those limitations with anticipation and accuracy. He plays with decent command from the pocket and finds his rhythm when working on-time and on-platform; that said, he will pass on profits and look for the big play too often. Average velocity and slower rip times mean tighter windows against faster athletes, so throwing off-platform or trying to do more than his arm talent allows is ill-advised. He’s tough and willing to take the hit to complete the throw once he’s locked into his target. Sanders is pocket mobile and finds clean alternate launch points, but he often creates pressure and sacks with undisciplined pocket drops. The tape says he has the necessary qualities to become a solid game manager if he can operate with better discipline and play to his strengths.


Strengths
Plays with confidence and composure from the pocket.
Keeps his eyes downfield as the pocket compresses.
Shows off ability to pump and reset when the play appears not to develop as he expected.
Able to buy himself time and move his launch point when needed.
Willing to stand in and take punishment when he gets locked in on the throw.
Gets hips squared to the target on rollout throws.
Steps into drive throws between the hashes and puts it on-frame.
Allows routes to develop and throws with timing into zone windows.
Hits receivers in stride and leads them into yards after the catch.
Consistently accurate when he throws from a balanced platform.


Weaknesses
Spacing and clearly defined route combinations make decision-making easier.
Drops beyond proper pocket depth and into edge rusher’s path.
Throws with a longer operation time.
Has completions on tape that will be interceptions in the pros.
Inconsistent bringing his lower half through his delivery.
Needs to become OK with taking profits and moving on.
Appears too confident in his off-platform game despite a lack of zip.
Doesn’t offer up much escapability quickness from the pocket.
Much too willing to take a big sack instead of throwing it away.

[Havoc]

Awful write-up at NFL.com

Wouldn’t want that QB:

Analysis
By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst


Overview
Any perceptions that Sanders is a product of Heisman Trophy-winner Travis Hunter’s greatness are slowly dispelled once you hit the tape. He’s seen mixed results under an intensely bright spotlight, but there are no signs his confidence has ever wavered. Sanders possesses a baseline of poise, savvy and accuracy, traits that are integral in becoming an NFL starter. He’s slow-twitch with standard arm talent and a longer release, but he worked around those limitations with anticipation and accuracy. He plays with decent command from the pocket and finds his rhythm when working on-time and on-platform; that said, he will pass on profits and look for the big play too often. Average velocity and slower rip times mean tighter windows against faster athletes, so throwing off-platform or trying to do more than his arm talent allows is ill-advised. He’s tough and willing to take the hit to complete the throw once he’s locked into his target. Sanders is pocket mobile and finds clean alternate launch points, but he often creates pressure and sacks with undisciplined pocket drops. The tape says he has the necessary qualities to become a solid game manager if he can operate with better discipline and play to his strengths.


Strengths
Plays with confidence and composure from the pocket.
Keeps his eyes downfield as the pocket compresses.
Shows off ability to pump and reset when the play appears not to develop as he expected.
Able to buy himself time and move his launch point when needed.
Willing to stand in and take punishment when he gets locked in on the throw.
Gets hips squared to the target on rollout throws.
Steps into drive throws between the hashes and puts it on-frame.
Allows routes to develop and throws with timing into zone windows.
Hits receivers in stride and leads them into yards after the catch.
Consistently accurate when he throws from a balanced platform.


Weaknesses
Spacing and clearly defined route combinations make decision-making easier.
Drops beyond proper pocket depth and into edge rusher’s path.
Throws with a longer operation time.
Has completions on tape that will be interceptions in the pros.
Inconsistent bringing his lower half through his delivery.
Needs to become OK with taking profits and moving on.
Appears too confident in his off-platform game despite a lack of zip.
Doesn’t offer up much escapability quickness from the pocket.
Much too willing to take a big sack instead of throwing it away.

Well now he doesn't sound so good LOL

That scouting report sounds like a college QB, not the tools I'd want to draft for a franchise NFL QB

[LakecrestSteeler]

On a related note, our friend Ryan Clark claimed criticism of Shedeur is based on race.

So I guess Ryan quit watching the NFL after he retired.

and if you bring up race Ryan Clark you must bring up this bizarre nepotism coupled with money in the same story.

Nothing that hasn’t happened before to some degree. But Prime certainly gave and created opportunities for his son that he would have never had without Prime’s credibility, money, and celebrity.

[cop1211]

They drafted Kenny Pickett in the first, if Sanders is there don’t be surprised by these morons.

[anpsteel]

On a related note, our friend Ryan Clark claimed criticism of Shedeur is based on race.

So I guess Ryan quit watching the NFL after he retired.

I have tremendous respect for Ryan Clark, the football player

Ryan Clark the television analyst, on the other hand, is a race baiting douchebag

[W&M_Steeler]

They drafted Kenny Pickett in the first, if Sanders is there don’t be surprised by these morons.

I am fully expecting the Steelers to take a QB or RB on the 1st. They're in panic mode again so will reach.