Whether the Steelers trade for a legit WR...

[TimmayLake]

indicates to me how seriously they are taking this season.

If we make the move for a serviceable WR2, that means the Steelers thinks this team under Russ can contend for the playoffs despite the Ravens dominance in the AFCN.

If we sit on our hands I think this means being satisfied with another NHALS and missing the playoffs or a wildcard round loss.

[daikyu]

Considering that they already tried for Aiyuk and Adams, I would say the team is taking this seriously.

indicates to me how seriously they are taking this season.

If we make the move for a serviceable WR2, that means the Steelers thinks this team under Russ can contend for the playoffs despite the Ravens dominance in the AFCN.

If we sit on our hands I think this means being satisfied with another NHALS and missing the playoffs or a wildcard round loss.

[TimmayLake]

Considering that they already tried for Aiyuk and Adams, I would say the team is taking this seriously.

indicates to me how seriously they are taking this season.

If we make the move for a serviceable WR2, that means the Steelers thinks this team under Russ can contend for the playoffs despite the Ravens dominance in the AFCN.

If we sit on our hands I think this means being satisfied with another NHALS and missing the playoffs or a wildcard round loss.

Right, but until they land someone they are stuck with status quo...

[Orangesteel]

It’s a bit alarming if there is validity to the reports that the Steelers continue to TRY to trade for a WR but have failed to do so.

Wait, I thought this was the big bad Steelers and every player currently walking the earth wants to wear the B&G and play for Mike Tomlin, maybe even run through a wall for him.

Ya, right…

Before anything with this kind of move you have to have a trade partner. Teams might not want to do business with the Steelers and players might not want to come to Pittsburgh. Volunteers and hostages, after all.

Mike Williams seems healthy enough and has been in action for the Jets all season. If they can get him for practically nothing then I say go for it and put this shit to rest.

[Steeldrama]

It’s a bit alarming if there is validity to the reports that the Steelers continue to TRY to trade for a WR but have failed to do so.

Maybe Khan (as opposed to Kahn) didn’t want to overpay whether in draft capital or salary.

Khan in the case of WRs like Mike Williams and Cooper Kupp has to also consider injury history.

That’s not alarming.

It’s smart

[swissvale72]

My contrary opinion...I really don't want think NHALS is a huge priority either for Tomlin or for the steelers as an organization. And..

I think they don't think they need another receiver in order to contend...and they just might be right!!

Would like to see them make better use of CA III, and combined with Pickens and their two tight ends, they have sufficient targets

[LakecrestSteeler]

My contrary opinion...I really don't want think NHALS is a huge priority either for Tomlin or for the steelers as an organization. And..

I think they don't think they need another receiver in order to contend...and they just might be right!!

Would like to see them make better use of CA III, and combined with Pickens and their two tight ends, they have sufficient targets

I think you just roll with what you have. Ben made receivers all the time in his prime. Russ should be able to make one out of this current batch not named GP.

[Orangesteel]

It’s a bit alarming if there is validity to the reports that the Steelers continue to TRY to trade for a WR but have failed to do so.

Maybe Khan (as opposed to Kahn) didn’t want to overpay whether in draft capital or salary.

Khan in the case of WRs like Mike Williams and Cooper Kupp has to also consider injury history.

That’s not alarming.

It’s smart

It’s not that simple. If they have been in line to get deals done with Aiyuk and Adams and were the bridesmaid, not the bride, then they aren’t satisfied with their receiver room. If they are trying to improve their receiver room this season then someone within the organization thinks they have a shot this season. So sure, overpaying with a 1 or 2 isn’t smart, but the 3-4 range is possible and they aren’t making it happen.

I don’t want to overpay for an old and often injured WR, sounds awful. But I don’t think we can chalk up all of these swings and misses for a WR to just intelligence on Khan’s part. I’m not sure teams and players like Steelers as a partner.

[Greeksteel]

Cooper Kupp for a 3rd?

yay or nay?

I think im a yay for a 3rd. For the reported 2nd? it would have to be very conditional

[Greeksteel]

It’s a bit alarming if there is validity to the reports that the Steelers continue to TRY to trade for a WR but have failed to do so.

Wait, I thought this was the big bad Steelers and every player currently walking the earth wants to wear the B&G and play for Mike Tomlin, maybe even run through a wall for him.

Ya, right…

Before anything with this kind of move you have to have a trade partner. Teams might not want to do business with the Steelers and players might not want to come to Pittsburgh. Volunteers and hostages, after all.

Mike Williams seems healthy enough and has been in action for the Jets all season. If they can get him for practically nothing then I say go for it and put this shit to rest.

I wouldnt mind Williams for next to nothing either Orange, just not sure hes the type of Wr we need. A pure route runner/technician like Kupp would be more ideal but ya the age/injury concern is there for him no doubt.

[daikyu]

You are way oversimplifying this. Steelers would not meet Aiyuk's salary demands so he stayed put on a much more talented team. Adams reunites with Rodgers.

The Steelers have shown they want to add another receiver but it has not worked out yet.

An article this morning says the price for Kupp is a 2nd rounder. That seems a bit high for a player that old with a recent injury history.

It’s a bit alarming if there is validity to the reports that the Steelers continue to TRY to trade for a WR but have failed to do so.

Maybe Khan (as opposed to Kahn) didn’t want to overpay whether in draft capital or salary.

Khan in the case of WRs like Mike Williams and Cooper Kupp has to also consider injury history.

That’s not alarming.

It’s smart

It’s not that simple. If they have been in line to get deals done with Aiyuk and Adams and were the bridesmaid, not the bride, then they aren’t satisfied with their receiver room. If they are trying to improve their receiver room this season then someone within the organization thinks they have a shot this season. So sure, overpaying with a 1 or 2 isn’t smart, but the 3-4 range is possible and they aren’t making it happen.

I don’t want to overpay for an old and often injured WR, sounds awful. But I don’t think we can chalk up all of these swings and misses for a WR to just intelligence on Khan’s part. I’m not sure teams and players like Steelers as a partner.

[bradshaw2ben]

It’s a bit alarming if there is validity to the reports that the Steelers continue to TRY to trade for a WR but have failed to do so.

Maybe Khan (as opposed to Kahn) didn’t want to overpay whether in draft capital or salary.

Khan in the case of WRs like Mike Williams and Cooper Kupp has to also consider injury history.

That’s not alarming.

It’s smart

I think what it boils down to is cost per moving the needle.

You'd pay almost anything if it made you the strong Super Bowl favorite. You'd pay almost nothing for something that's a big risk and you're not sure if it even helps significantly.

A smart buyer bases the price point on where it falls on those two categories. After one game with Russ and the sense that the Steelers haven't exactly been tested vs the league's best (DEN T #10 is their only opponent so far that is top 10 in DVOA)... I'm not sure even adding the best non-QB offensive player in the league immediately makes them the super bowl favorite, so I don't think cost is no object.

My observation is they seem to be waiting as long as possible to see what kind of team they have and what their injury situation is before deciding how important a trade is at the deadline.

Short version: dominate the Giants, have an even stronger performance by Russ, get even healthier in the near-term, and maybe they roll the dice on a higher-priced trade for a guy like Kupp.

Play lackluster in a win or have the defense exposed or lose TJ Watt... maybe that trade makes no sense. Also, undoubtedly, the price goes down the longer you wait. This seems like good GMing so far.

[bradshaw2ben]

My contrary opinion...I really don't want think NHALS is a huge priority either for Tomlin or for the steelers as an organization. And..

I think they don't think they need another receiver in order to contend...and they just might be right!!

Would like to see them make better use of CA III, and combined with Pickens and their two tight ends, they have sufficient targets

You'll see how much a priority NHALS is if god forbid TJ Watt goes down with a long-term injury. If they trade away the store at that point, you can assume they're not doing it because they think they can win the Super Bowl.

[bradshaw2ben]

Cooper Kupp for a 3rd?

yay or nay?

I think im a yay for a 3rd. For the reported 2nd? it would have to be very conditional

The injury history plus visible drop off in his play since his peak concerns me. I think he's more like a 4th for me. If last week's offense is just the start of what they can be and if they intend to pas to WRs more, then he would be a great addition.

[R_S]

indicates to me how seriously they are taking this season.

If we make the move for a serviceable WR2, that means the Steelers thinks this team under Russ can contend for the playoffs despite the Ravens dominance in the AFCN.

If we sit on our hands I think this means being satisfied with another NHALS and missing the playoffs or a wildcard round loss.

I'm not sure why'd you think a 5-2 team tied for first in their division wouldnt be "taking the season seriously". Maybe that's just a poor choice of words on your part. Adams was going to Rogers . Aiyuk cost too much....luckily. Mike Williams. hmmm. I thought we already had a big, slow, non-productive vet on the team, named Van Jefferson.

[cop1211]

Mike Williams for a 6th, or Courtland Sutton for a 5th.

[Orangesteel]

What’s wild is I don’t even know who is healthy.

Adams is healthy, he caught Bishop from behind to deny him the TD,

Is Hopkins healthy?
Is Cupp healthy?

[Deebo]

Cooper Kupp for a 3rd?

yay or nay?

I think im a yay for a 3rd. For the reported 2nd? it would have to be very conditional

Hell no to a 3rd for this iteration of Kupp. He's 32 years old and oft injured.

[Mick]

All of these trades are conditional these days.

Give a 3rd, turns into a 2nd if we make AFCCG and he has 500 yards. Try to get a 5th back; only hangup is our 4th is tied up with Fields/Bears.

[K_C_]

Cooper Kupp for a 3rd?

yay or nay?

I think im a yay for a 3rd. For the reported 2nd? it would have to be very conditional

No higher than a 5th, if that.

Kupp hasn't been healthy in years.

This team will have needs next year, starting with using a very high premium pick to find a real running mate for George Pickens, if Roman Wilson doesn't show huge potential when he finally gets on the field.

Our d-line is getting up in age. Larry O and Heyward are not spring chickens. We will need to use a high pick to try and find another Benton.

Najee could be leaving after this season. We could be using that 3rd rounder to find our next bell cow back.

If we can't keep both Wilson and Fields, they will need to use a pick to find an athletic QB with upside.

Depth on the o-line is going to be important with Dan Moore very possibly leaving and Broderick Jones looking more and more like a bust.

No.

We can't give up a 3rd rounder for an injury waiting to happen like Kupp.

[K_C_]

Cooper Kupp for a 3rd?

yay or nay?

I think im a yay for a 3rd. For the reported 2nd? it would have to be very conditional

Hell no to a 3rd for this iteration of Kupp. He's 32 years old and oft injured.

I mean...it's an insane proposition to give up a 3rd for Kupp.

Insane.

[steelmann58]

Kupp is not worth a 2-3 with his injury concern

[Mick]

Cooper Kupp for a 3rd?

yay or nay?

I think im a yay for a 3rd. For the reported 2nd? it would have to be very conditional

No higher than a 5th, if that.

Kupp hasn't been healthy in years.

This team will have needs next year, starting with using a very high premium pick to find a real running mate for George Pickens, if Roman Wilson doesn't show huge potential when he finally gets on the field.

Our d-line is getting up in age. Larry O and Heyward are not spring chickens. We will need to use a high pick to try and find another Benton.

Najee could be leaving after this season. We could be using that 3rd rounder to find our next bell cow back.

If we can't keep both Wilson and Fields, they will need to use a pick to find an athletic QB with upside.

Depth on the o-line is going to be important with Dan Moore very possibly leaving and Broderick Jones looking more and more like a bust.

No.

We can't give up a 3rd rounder for an injury waiting to happen like Kupp.

saying ‘we need that pick to get a receiver to pair with pickens’ doesn’t make any sense when Kupp is, in fact, a receiver. If we got another receiver, our need at receiver would be gone.

Obviously only if he was healthy, which is a massive understandable concern. But holding on to that pick so we can pair up Pickens with next year’s Roman/Sammie Coates/Dri Archer/Markus Wheaton seems ill advised.

[K_C_]

Cooper Kupp for a 3rd?

yay or nay?

I think im a yay for a 3rd. For the reported 2nd? it would have to be very conditional

No higher than a 5th, if that.

Kupp hasn't been healthy in years.

This team will have needs next year, starting with using a very high premium pick to find a real running mate for George Pickens, if Roman Wilson doesn't show huge potential when he finally gets on the field.

Our d-line is getting up in age. Larry O and Heyward are not spring chickens. We will need to use a high pick to try and find another Benton.

Najee could be leaving after this season. We could be using that 3rd rounder to find our next bell cow back.

If we can't keep both Wilson and Fields, they will need to use a pick to find an athletic QB with upside.

Depth on the o-line is going to be important with Dan Moore very possibly leaving and Broderick Jones looking more and more like a bust.

No.

We can't give up a 3rd rounder for an injury waiting to happen like Kupp.

saying ‘we need that pick to get a receiver to pair with pickens’ doesn’t make any sense when Kupp is, in fact, a receiver. If we got another receiver, our need at receiver would be gone.

Obviously only if he was healthy, which is a massive understandable concern. But holding on to that pick so we can pair up Pickens with next year’s Roman/Sammie Coates/Dri Archer/Markus Wheaton seems ill advised.

They will risk a young high draft choice being the next Wheaton, Coates, Sweed etc before trading for a banged up, shadow of what he once was Cooper Kupp and I say thank God.

Putting Roman Wilson in the bust department at this point is outright stupid. He's hurt. Are you putting Fautanu on the o-line bust list yet? Yeah, I thought not.

[steelmann58]

I have always been of the mind that our FO is ok with the WR Room . I think they still believe they think Roman will have an impact in the 2nd half. I don't think Omar going to move a 2-3 for an injury prone WR like Kupp even though he an impact guy.

[Mick]

No higher than a 5th, if that.

Kupp hasn't been healthy in years.

This team will have needs next year, starting with using a very high premium pick to find a real running mate for George Pickens, if Roman Wilson doesn't show huge potential when he finally gets on the field.

Our d-line is getting up in age. Larry O and Heyward are not spring chickens. We will need to use a high pick to try and find another Benton.

Najee could be leaving after this season. We could be using that 3rd rounder to find our next bell cow back.

If we can't keep both Wilson and Fields, they will need to use a pick to find an athletic QB with upside.

Depth on the o-line is going to be important with Dan Moore very possibly leaving and Broderick Jones looking more and more like a bust.

No.

We can't give up a 3rd rounder for an injury waiting to happen like Kupp.

saying ‘we need that pick to get a receiver to pair with pickens’ doesn’t make any sense when Kupp is, in fact, a receiver. If we got another receiver, our need at receiver would be gone.

Obviously only if he was healthy, which is a massive understandable concern. But holding on to that pick so we can pair up Pickens with next year’s Roman/Sammie Coates/Dri Archer/Markus Wheaton seems ill advised.

They will risk a young high draft choice being the next Wheaton, Coates, Sweed etc before trading for a banged up, shadow of what he once was Cooper Kupp and I say thank God.

Putting Roman Wilson in the bust department at this point is outright stupid. He's hurt. Are you putting Fautanu on the o-line bust list yet? Yeah, I thought not.

that wasn’t a list of busts, that was just 3rd round WRs we’ve taken recently.

As for ‘shadow of himself’, Kupp is at 73 yards per game this year, and about 73 yards per game over the last three years (which would be about 1250 yards over 17 games), vs. a career average of 76 yards per game. He had one crazy outlier 2021 season, but ignoring that he’s a good player that’s been injured a lot.

[K_C_]

saying ‘we need that pick to get a receiver to pair with pickens’ doesn’t make any sense when Kupp is, in fact, a receiver. If we got another receiver, our need at receiver would be gone.

Obviously only if he was healthy, which is a massive understandable concern. But holding on to that pick so we can pair up Pickens with next year’s Roman/Sammie Coates/Dri Archer/Markus Wheaton seems ill advised.

They will risk a young high draft choice being the next Wheaton, Coates, Sweed etc before trading for a banged up, shadow of what he once was Cooper Kupp and I say thank God.

Putting Roman Wilson in the bust department at this point is outright stupid. He's hurt. Are you putting Fautanu on the o-line bust list yet? Yeah, I thought not.

that wasn’t a list of busts, that was just 3rd round WRs we’ve taken recently.

As for ‘shadow of himself’, Kupp is at 73 yards per game this year, and about 73 yards per game over the last three years (which would be about 1250 yards over 17 games), vs. a career average of 76 yards per game. He had one crazy outlier 2021 season, but ignoring that he’s a good player that’s been injured a lot.

Well, we'll see what happens. I think they would be out of their minds to blow a second rounder for a dude who is clearly past his prime. Kupp's workload was so ridiculous a few years ago, his body isn't what it once was. The only guy I can remember having a huge workload for years and it not really affecting his performance later was AB.

Kupp is not built like AB. No way they give up a 2 for Kupp and I seriously doubt they'd part with a 3 for him.

I think the Steelers want to slowly work Roman Wilson into the mix once he's healthy. A 4.4 guy who is about the same size as Diontae Johnson and has great separation skills. I'd ride with what we have until Wilson is ready to contribute rather than mortgaging the future for no reason on a dude like Kupp.

I would go no higher than a 5th for Kupp and I have a feeling the Steelers feel the same way.

[Orangesteel]

I have always been of the mind that our FO is ok with the WR Room . I think they still believe they think Roman will have an impact in the 2nd half. I don't think Omar going to move a 2-3 for an injury prone WR like Kupp even though he an impact guy.

Kinda here now. Kaboly says Roman looks phenomenal in practice. I’ll say when I saw clips of him from a few weeks ago he looked really good in drills. I know it’s just drills…

But with the WR unlocked maybe they get Roman going after the bye and sit on who they have for now. Austin can be really good in this offense, I’m convinced. Pickens - Austin - Roman and whatever is left of Jefferson/Muth/Washington/Warren & Najee, I mean how much more are we supposed to spread it out in the passing game?

I think making a move for Kirk or Calvin Ridley would have been good but haven’t heard them in the mix at all.

Roman had a legit injury and he is very green. Let him learn a few more weeks and get acclimated with Russell then unleash his little ass the back half of the season.

The gripe is we could have had Brian Thomas Jr. but aunts and uncles and testicles and all dat. Whatever.

[rooneytunes]

If Kupp plays tomorrow and then gets traded Friday to Steelers could he then play Monday?

[tbsteel]

I have always been of the mind that our FO is ok with the WR Room . I think they still believe they think Roman will have an impact in the 2nd half. I don't think Omar going to move a 2-3 for an injury prone WR like Kupp even though he an impact guy.

Kinda here now. Kaboly says Roman looks phenomenal in practice. I’ll say when I saw clips of him from a few weeks ago he looked really good in drills. I know it’s just drills…

But with the WR unlocked maybe they get Roman going after the bye and sit on who they have for now. Austin can be really good in this offense, I’m convinced. Pickens - Austin - Roman and whatever is left of Jefferson/Muth/Washington/Warren & Najee, I mean how much more are we supposed to spread it out in the passing game?

I think making a move for Kirk or Calvin Ridley would have been good but haven’t heard them in the mix at all.

Roman had a legit injury and he is very green. Let him learn a few more weeks and get acclimated with Russell then unleash his little ass the back half of the season.

The gripe is we could have had Brian Thomas Jr. but aunts and uncles and testicles and all dat. Whatever.

Heard Roman doesn't take coaching well and is behind. Sounds like a guy that needs to grow up and start acting like a pro.