We just wanted to minimize his (Pickens) reps in an effort to get more productivity

[blu]

Is Tomlin off his rocker? I don't recall Tomlin ever minimizing AB's reps.

[955876]

He gets worse and worse each year.

[TTP]

What does this even mean?

1. Was Pickens semi in the doghouse?
2. Is Pickens out of shape and needs a lot breathers?
3. Something else?

Pickens usage has been weird all season, not just this game. Why can't/isn't he playing more snaps? Most #1 WR play close to 100% of their teams stats.

I think part of the Steelers are looking to add a high quality wide out is because Pickens is nuts.

[K_C_]

What does this even mean?

1. Was Pickens semi in the doghouse?
2. Is Pickens out of shape and needs a lot breathers?
3. Something else?

Pickens usage has been weird all season, not just this game. Why can't/isn't he playing more snaps? Most #1 WR play close to 100% of their teams stats.

I think part of the Steelers are looking to add a high quality wide out is because Pickens is nuts.

Cool Shades is basically saying he is disciplining Pickens due to his attitude and behavior.

Trying to make him earn his snaps.

A blind man can see Pickens has checked out. Totally.

[swissvale72]

Yeah, "snap management" is Tomlin's new thing to go along with "fluidity." Maybe he gets together with Pirates stupid manager who's forever taking Paul skenes outta the game due to "pitch count "

[Jizz Mop]

What this all means is enjoy what’s left of Pickens last year here

So fucked up

[955876]

At what point do we start blaming WR behavior on Jibbs?

This league will always be full of immature, entitled, douche bags. Why do these issues keep coming up here?

What WR is going to be happy playing in Jibb’s wretched offense?

Do we trade Pickens now too?

Dunce needs to wake the hell up.

Zero excitement for this team.

[Steeldrama]

https://x.com/SharpFootball/status/1843377558731272333

Weather delay I bailed early on the game but Twitter knows why Georgie’s snaps were reduced

Kirby “Smart” benched Pickens on more than one occasion

Tomlin won’t

But he should

[Obviously]

Yeah, "snap management" is Tomlin's new thing to go along with "fluidity." Maybe he gets together with Pirates stupid manager who's forever taking Paul skenes outta the game due to "pitch count "

Two more squares for the Tomlin bingo card.

Tomlin and Shelton are butt buddies for sure.

[langer]

Isn’t it a bit of an issue if you bench your best wideout?

[Orangesteel]

He was benched. Look at the effort there.

He’s lost. Great work again, Tomlin. Only took 4 games.

[Who Dee Knee]

I can’t fathom Chuck Noll putting up with Pickens’ antics. Tomlin’s ‘leadership’ enables this behavior.

[RemoAZ]

I thought he was showing a lot more maturity and professionalism earlier in the year. Where's the development? Remember in the past where they'd feed AB and Hines to keep them involved/happy? Nothing wrong with keeping your #1 heavily involved in the game plan. Just another example of the Mike Tomlin offensive philosophy smothering this team.

I also believe the bull shit crack back penalties he had his rookie year made him much less aggressive blocking. He looked to love blocking but those calls are ruining the game. I can totally see how this would discourage receivers. I mean when the play is coming your way and you want to turn and block for the guy what are you supposed to do? Wave your hands and yell to get him to turn his fucking head and actually look where he's going? Or are you just supposed to let him make the tackle. Hate that shit.

[955876]

I can’t fathom Chuck Noll putting up with Pickens’ antics. Tomlin’s ‘leadership’ enables this behavior.

Absolutely.

Only this time around they can’t blame it on the influence of Dionte Johnson.

Jibbs is nothing more than a Wordsmiff blowing hot air.

He continues to earn his nickname over and over and over again.

I might actually get a jersey with Jibba Jabber on the back.

[Quixotic]

This is so confusing. Why would you keep your BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER off the field, in a game where the problem is clearly OFFENSE?

In a game where they lost by one possession?

What “more productivity” is he even talking about?

More touches for Harris, just in case he mysteriously turns into a franchise running back?

[TimmayLake]

Isn’t it a bit of an issue if you bench your best wideout?

He's not only the best wideout, he's the only offensive playmaker on the roster.

No NFL defense is scared by any of the other "weapons" we have on the roster.

[955876]

This is so confusing. Why would you keep your BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER off the field, in a game where the problem is clearly OFFENSE?

In a game where they lost by one possession?

What “more productivity” is he even talking about?

More touches for Harris, just in case he mysteriously turns into a franchise running back?

I think the dipshit thought that Pickens will play harder with fewer snaps than more snaps.

This team is a mess. If only we didn’t have the fortune of playing very rusty Kirk Cousins, making 2nd start ever Bo Nix, and a gimp in Herbert.

Very likely this team is 0-5.

[Deebo]

Isn’t it a bit of an issue if you bench your best wideout?

You mean your ONLY WR?

[langer]

Yeah, Chuck would never put up with insane football players.

Prior to his third season in 1973, Holmes had an emotional breakdown while driving on the Ohio Turnpike on March 16, firing shots at a police helicopter as it pursued him.[8][9][10] He was charged with shooting at a Highway Patrol heli-pilot. Holmes was found in a field near his abandoned car in Goshen Township, Mahoning County, Ohio.[11][12] When apprehended, he threw his gun away and put his hands up. He was given five years' probation. Diagnosed with acute paranoid psychosis, he was believed to be depressed and having marital troubles.[13]

Holmes played six seasons with the Steelers before being traded due to on-going weight problems in 1978 to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, where he failed to make the team coming out of preseason.[14] He played three games for the New England Patriots that season before retiring.

[Jtf]

Told you guys. Shoulda traded Pickens straight up for aiyuk. Could have got rid of a real fucking clown and a good receiver . Now stuck with Pickens and prob lose him for comp pick. Steelers need to trade him now.

[Deebo]

Told you guys. Shoulda traded Pickens straight up for aiyuk. Could have got rid of a real fucking clown and a good receiver . Now stuck with Pickens and prob lose him for comp pick. Steelers need to trade him now.

You have a crystal ball that says BA wouldn't be pulling the same stuff? I'd be pissed too in this offense.

[Louis Lipps Service]

Told you guys. Shoulda traded Pickens straight up for aiyuk. Could have got rid of a real fucking clown and a good receiver . Now stuck with Pickens and prob lose him for comp pick. Steelers need to trade him now.

You have a crystal ball that says BA wouldn't be pulling the same stuff? I'd be pissed too in this offense.

Yeah, I don't get why more people don't realize this. WRs who play here risk literally millions of dollars on their next contract because it's impossible to put up meaningful stats in our Stone Age offense.

They have every right to be pissed off, especially if they didn't make the choice to come here in the first place.

We keep labelling WRs that come through here as malcontents and divas and never seem to ask ourselves why every single #1 WR that we get seems to always turn into that.

If all the other variables have changed and you're still getting the same results....you need to start asking yourself if YOU are the problem.

We can go trade or draft whomever you want, but you can bet your ass they'll end up in the same boat if we can't employ an offense that gives them opportunities.

[Steeldrama]

I'd be pissed too in this offense.

Herein lies my problem.

The whole point of posting on a message board is to discuss.

To debate

To Vent

But the “discussion” starts and ends with who would want to play in the Steelers’ offense?

Trade for Aiyuk? Adams??

Might as well just light those draft picks on fire.

And who gives a rip if Russ Wilson or Justin Fields is the starting qb.

There is literally NO qb walking planet earth capable of making Tomlin’s offense remotely functional.

And it’s not just an us problem, it’s a them problem.

Have y’all watched any other football games?

3 of my best friends are lifelong Browns fans.

Ask them about the state of their team’s offense.

Anyway

I often have old man fleeting thoughts about all things Steelers and I’m all like, “Nope, no point in posting that”

Why not?

Because the ONLY THING WORTH POSTING is that NOTHING will change until Tomlin and Art 2 ride off into the sunset and a 180 approach to running a once proud franchise is undertaken.

To "discuss" anything else is just spinning wheels.

[Ice]

Lotta unfortunate truth to that, Drama. Lot of it.

[Stosh-67]

Is Tomlin off his rocker? I don't recall Tomlin ever minimizing AB's reps.

With Aaron Judge struggling for the Yanks,
Maybe limit his at bats tonight to increase his productivity.

Bat him in the 1st and 5th innings.
Send up a bottom of the roster guy to the plate, to hit for Judge in the 3rd.

Judge hits again in the 5th, but does not actually get a chance to swing the bat, Hence, he was in the game, but not given a chance to make an impact.
If they pick up some nice steam, score a few runs......then pinch hit for Judge again in the 7th, with a guy that was in the minors a few weeks ago.

Hopefully come the 9th inning, the game is still meaningful...Or we need some runs to get back into the game,
well, then send Judge back in to hit it out of the park. Hopefully the opponent does not take away this last opportunity for him.

Sub-Optimizing Offensive Success -
S.O.S. ............if you will.

2024
A new year.
A new way for Tomlin to display ways he continues to derail this team.

[swissvale72]

That's a funny, and apt, analogy, stosh. And yes, can't hang this one on Diontae Johnson.

Personally, would like to see CA III more involved

All that said tho, and I like the analysis of Dan orlovsky, who continues to maintain that Steelers need wr help, not a qb problem

[lifelongsteel]

With all their warts, Steelers are likely 5-0 if Pickens were playing like a #1. His fumble against Indy was ridiculous. His two "non catches" against Dallas were killers. Not to mention the harm he causes by being enough of an asshole to get "snap management" and then job throughout the rest of the game.

It's unfortunate but he's at risk of being out of the league Martavis Bryant style. No coach is going to put up with receivers who don't run routes because they're having a mood. Some first class a-holes have played WR in this league - AB, Tyreek Hill, etc. But those dudes compete on every snap.

Clearly the Steelers were going after Aiyuk with the idea that Pickens isn't going to be on the team too much longer.

It's a real shame. FWIW i don't blame tomlin at all for this situation. they took a risk on a talented but troubled guy. sometimes those just don't work out.

One last thing: The Steelers lost their way when they changed their criteria for judging talent. And they are paying for it on the field.

I think the Jarvis fiasco spooked them. Early rounds they used to focus on high football character guys who were massively productive at high end football schools and were "usually" on the younger side. That thinking got them a long string of great #1 picks. Now they are picking Broderick Jones with 8 starts, Pickens with obvious character issues and little college production, and it gets worse the further you go back.

Maybe they should just avoid dudes from Georgia from now on . . .

[Jobu]

We keep labelling WRs that come through here as malcontents and divas and never seem to ask ourselves why every single #1 WR that we get seems to always turn into that.

I’m going to say that we aren’t asking that question because we all, well not all but most, know the answer.

[955876]

No coach is going to put up with receivers who don't run routes because they're having a mood.

Maybe they wouldn’t be having a mood if they played for a coach that actually knows how to employ an offense.

And as a result, not dog it all the time.

While there is no excuse for Pickens bullshit, some of this behavior is a result of him k owing he isn’t part of the gameplay that play, series, half of football.