Top Coaches List - Why No Tomlin Protege's

[Steelersfan]

A pretty good list in my opinion. Would love to see a list like this for all position coaches & all coaches ranked 1 thru 32.

Why does a 17 year Tomlin/Rooney combo not have a single name, not even close or not even expected to be, on this list????? Most damning & frustrating thing ever. This has been/IS WHAT'S WRONG (holding the team back) with the organization, since Cowhers coaches departed. At 17 years in, this list should have all members of the Steeler staff:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl- ... g-winners/

[Stillchest]

Once Tomlin gets re-signed to an extension, he’ll either promote Faulkner or hire Byron Leftwich for OC.

No decent OC would be interested in making a lateral move, to work under Tomlin’s thumb, with KP8 as the “guy” at QB.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Rooney won’t pay for top talent on the coaching staff

Smallest and lowest paid staff in the NFL

[Jobu]

Once Tomlin gets re-signed to an extension, he’ll either promote Faulkner or hire Byron Leftwich for OC.

This is a near certainty. My money is on Faulkner.

[CzechSteeler]

Once Tomlin gets re-signed to an extension, he’ll either promote Faulkner or hire Byron Leftwich for OC.

I wouldn´t be surprised if only Faulkner and Sullivan would get job interview.

[955876]

Rooney won’t pay for top talent on the coaching staff

Smallest and lowest paid staff in the NFL

Maybe he should get a new (young & hungry) HC who won’t be the 5th highest paid coach in the league (like Jibbs currently is) and then spread some of that money to the rest of the staff.

[Steelersfan]

I can see,,,,,,,I can almost understand hiring a position coach via "the buddy, who you know, who you owe a favor too for recruiting my son" system.

But you make that hire when there's an opening 2 years before drafting "say" a Troy Polamulu. BUT, when Troy is in year 6, 7, 8 Prime Pro Bowl career, you bring in a coach that can handle that. A 12, 15, 20 years of experience DB coach that has some pro bowlers on his past resume. You definitely DON'T hire a scrapheap coach well below your players levels to save a few cents.

That's what they have done at WR coach, TE, RB, QB (WTF, how stupid), & DB coach. Probably O-line coach too.

It's like hiring/promoting the new young college kid dufas at work, instead of the 30 year experienced, knows everything, well respected, seniority leading guru. Shits on & brings down the ENTIRE empire. The entire team stops giving 110%, throws diva tantrums, quits blocking for brothers, not all in, gives up on plays, etc., etc. Team dysfunction.

What the fuck is Rooney, Kahn & Weidel thinking. Those decisions over the years brought down the empire, ya jagoffs. Fix it this off season.

Give NHALS back some brains & football positional IQ.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Rooney won’t pay for top talent on the coaching staff

Smallest and lowest paid staff in the NFL

Maybe he should get a new (young & hungry) HC who won’t be the 5th highest paid coach in the league (like Jibbs currently is) and then spread some of that money to the rest of the staff.

Or maybe he quit being a billionaire cheap ass. That’s a much more direct solution

[CoolShades]

I can see,,,,,,,I can almost understand hiring a position coach via "the buddy, who you know, who you owe a favor too for recruiting my son" system.

But you make that hire when there's an opening 2 years before drafting "say" a Troy Polamulu. BUT, when Troy is in year 6, 7, 8 Prime Pro Bowl career, you bring in a coach that can handle that. A 12, 15, 20 years of experience DB coach that has some pro bowlers on his past resume. You definitely DON'T hire a scrapheap coach well below your players levels to save a few cents.

That's what they have done at WR coach, TE, RB, QB (WTF, how stupid), & DB coach. Probably O-line coach too.

It's like hiring/promoting the new young college kid dufas at work, instead of the 30 year experienced, knows everything, well respected, seniority leading guru. Shits on & brings down the ENTIRE empire. The entire team stops giving 110%, throws diva tantrums, quits blocking for brothers, not all in, gives up on plays, etc., etc. Team dysfunction.

What the fuck is Rooney, Kahn & Weidel thinking. Those decisions over the years brought down the empire, ya jagoffs. Fix it this off season.

Give NHALS back some brains & football positional IQ.

This is a Tomlin problem.

The idea that Rooney is cheap is Tomlin-defender cope. I don’t remember anyone discussing cheap owners and the lack of coaching talent under Cowher, and there is a reason. Cowher looked for guys he felt could be promoted to HC, especially when he hired his coordinators. But Cowher always had his eye out for talent, even for position coaches.

The idea that Rooney would not pay for quality coaches is absurd. I’ve never seen proof of this. On the contrary, during the Canada debacle, the standard trope was that Rooney hired Canada for OC.

He didn’t.

Rooney suggested Canada to Cool Shades when there was an opening for QB coach, but it wasn’t an order to hire. One could argue that it WAS an order, but this was for a position coach... and at the time, Tomlin was in the league what, 12-13 years when Canada came on board? Are we to believe this supposed HOF coach has no ability to hire anyone he wants? And if I recall correctly, there is a connection between Canada and Tomlin wrt Tomlin’s son and UM. In any event, Rooney didn’t promote Canada to OC. Tomlin did. When Canada was initially hired as QB coach, there was a quote in the article I read by Art II that said something to the effect that “other coaching changes/additions are still on the table, but that’s ultimately Tomlin’s decision.” The cover given to Tomlin the last year and a half over not firing Canada (Rooney doesn’t want to pay someone to sit at home, so he will work to the end of his contract) was proven wrong this year. And yet, the same “Rooney is cheap” BS is still tossed around. Is there any documented proof of that?

I find it impossible to believe that a family worth a billion plus, who also has a significant minority ownership group that has invested in the Steelers, would cheap out on coaches. They wasted a season of Pickett’s rookie contract. How much will his second contract be worth if he turns out to be the franchise guy? And if he doesn’t, they set their organization back 4-5 years to search for the next franchise guy, all to save a few million on the last year of Canada’s deal?

Come on.

If you were an up and coming coach, would you want to work for Tomlin? It would appear that the answer to this question is no, and has been for 17 years. There is a reason this clown has a barren coaching tree. Tomlin only hires buddies (who seem to be as dim as Mediocre Mike) or guys who are on their last legs... guys who have been fired ugly and without an offer from Tomlin, they’d most likely be out of the NFL. That kind of coach is loyal to Tomlin, and that’s what he wants. He doesn’t want a guy who will question him or make him look bad. He wants a guy who will stay put as long as the Steelers keep NHALS alive. Thats all that’s required. Up until Canada, Tomlin’s band of TJ Maxx coaching irregulars know they are safe as long as they keep Mediocre Mike happy.

Tomlin needs to go.

[Orangesteel]

Did Tomlin’s fat gut make the list?

I’m too busy to open the link.

[Professor Half Wit]

Rooney won’t pay for top talent on the coaching staff

Smallest and lowest paid staff in the NFL

Maybe he should get a new (young & hungry) HC who won’t be the 5th highest paid coach in the league (like Jibbs currently is) and then spread some of that money to the rest of the staff.

Or maybe he quit being a billionaire cheap ass. That’s a much more direct solution

Logged on just to like this and say, 95, that’s retarded.

[Stillchest]

Maybe he should get a new (young & hungry) HC who won’t be the 5th highest paid coach in the league (like Jibbs currently is) and then spread some of that money to the rest of the staff.

Or maybe he quit being a billionaire cheap ass. That’s a much more direct solution

Logged on just to like this and say, 95, that’s retarded.

Where is the proof, Art II is too cheap to hire better coaches?

Imo, from what's been reported by local beat writers, Tomlin doesn't want to hire any coach, who could possibly be a threat to his team control or job.

This makes much more sense.

[Smashmouth21]

The Steelers are using all of their coaching cap space on the Franchise head coach, obviously. Don’t be mad when the assistant coaches are not top tier. It’s a Rooney problem not a Tomlin problem.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Or maybe he quit being a billionaire cheap ass. That’s a much more direct solution

Logged on just to like this and say, 95, that’s retarded.

Where is the proof, Art II is too cheap to hire better coaches?

Imo, from what's been reported by local beat writers, Tomlin doesn't want to hire any coach, who could possibly be a threat to his team control or job.

This makes much more sense.

- The Steelers have the smallest staff in the NFL

- I’ve never heard any reliable reporters talk about Tomlin not wanting to hire better coaches. Mark Madden click whore types only.

- The Steelers fired Canada 7 weeks ago on Tuesday. They are competing for a playoff spot. They named 2 guys as Co - OCs and still expect them to handle their previous positions on top of that

- I remember reading somewhere (maybe Forbes ?) a few years ago the Steelers had the lowest payroll in the NFL. They were the smallest staff then and remain so. Colbert has left. I can’t imagine things have increased.

- Rooney has been the owner on paper since 2003. It’s possible he’s liquid well over 1 billion. The Steelers franchise is worth over 4 billion.

- No less an authority and insider than Charlie Batch called Rooney out publicly on Rooney’s own radio show for being notoriously cheap and that it was the biggest reason Canada wasn’t axed much sooner. Shortly after that Canada became the first higher up the Steelers fired mid season since WWII

- How many times have we seen the Steelers hang on to guys who should be cut when they are still owed a lot of cash ?? Can you name any player the Steelers have ever cut loose owing them a lot of cash ??

To pretend that the Rooney’s aren’t cheap and Mike Tomlin has somehow taken over the entirety of the Steelers franchise while poor helpless Rooney shivers in his wake

It’s laughable mang

It’s laughable

[Steelersfan]

It's highly likely both sides are right. Fact is no one knows. Nothing but assumptions or opinion.

I agree Rooney's other wallet/pocket is full of dust & cobwebs. I also agree that Tomlin makes all the dumbass scrape heap, highschool dropout hires.

Quality costs more, absolutely. But you gotta shop at the "high end" stores in the first place.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Money talks

Always has always will

This isn’t a new thing

Bitch about Tomlin all you want. He has his flaws

Cheap ass Rooney is by far the biggest reason the Steelers staff is the smallest and lowest paid in the league

[955876]

Maybe he should get a new (young & hungry) HC who won’t be the 5th highest paid coach in the league (like Jibbs currently is) and then spread some of that money to the rest of the staff.

Or maybe he quit being a billionaire cheap ass. That’s a much more direct solution

Logged on just to like this and say, 95, that’s retarded.

What exactly is “retarded”?

Be specific. Jibbs is fifth highest paid coach in the league.

If at some point we get a new coach, and he’s young as Cowher was and Jibbs was when hired, they wouldn’t step into the position at that much pay. More money then to go around for higher quality assistants.

Failing to see what was “retarded” about what I said.

Especially because I don’t disagree that Dunce could also simply stop being cheap and spend more on the assistants.

So what was retarded?

Also, I thought that was a word we aren’t supposed to use any longer. Isn’t it kind of the “N” word for people with disabilities?

[Professor Half Wit]

Or maybe he quit being a billionaire cheap ass. That’s a much more direct solution

Logged on just to like this and say, 95, that’s retarded.

What exactly is “retarded”?

Be specific. Jibbs is fifth highest paid coach in the league.

If at some point we get a new coach, and he’s young as Cowher was and Jibbs was when hired, they wouldn’t step into the position at that much pay. More money then to go around for higher quality assistants.

Failing to see what was “retarded” about what I said.

Especially because I don’t disagree that Dunce could also simply stop being cheap and spend more on the assistants.

So what was retarded?

Also, I thought that was a word we aren’t supposed to use any longer. Isn’t it kind of the “N” word for people with disabilities?

That Tomlin making major bread is some insurmountable obstacle to Rooney opening up his wallet to attract quality coordinators, assistants, and position coaches. STD's response is correct. There's no caching cap so it's dumb to connect Tomlin's salary to lack of quality staff.

[Smashmouth21]

Logged on just to like this and say, 95, that’s retarded.

What exactly is “retarded”?

Be specific. Jibbs is fifth highest paid coach in the league.

If at some point we get a new coach, and he’s young as Cowher was and Jibbs was when hired, they wouldn’t step into the position at that much pay. More money then to go around for higher quality assistants.

Failing to see what was “retarded” about what I said.

Especially because I don’t disagree that Dunce could also simply stop being cheap and spend more on the assistants.

So what was retarded?

Also, I thought that was a word we aren’t supposed to use any longer. Isn’t it kind of the “N” word for people with disabilities?

That Tomlin making major bread is some insurmountable obstacle to Rooney opening up his wallet to attract quality coordinators, assistants, and position coaches. STD's response is correct. There's no caching cap so it's dumb to connect Tomlin's salary to lack of quality staff.

I was being /sarca Wit.

[SteelerDayTrader]

What exactly is “retarded”?

Be specific. Jibbs is fifth highest paid coach in the league.

If at some point we get a new coach, and he’s young as Cowher was and Jibbs was when hired, they wouldn’t step into the position at that much pay. More money then to go around for higher quality assistants.

Failing to see what was “retarded” about what I said.

Especially because I don’t disagree that Dunce could also simply stop being cheap and spend more on the assistants.

So what was retarded?

Also, I thought that was a word we aren’t supposed to use any longer. Isn’t it kind of the “N” word for people with disabilities?

That Tomlin making major bread is some insurmountable obstacle to Rooney opening up his wallet to attract quality coordinators, assistants, and position coaches. STD's response is correct. There's no caching cap so it's dumb to connect Tomlin's salary to lack of quality staff.

I was being /sarca Wit.

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[jeemie]

Rooney won’t pay for top talent on the coaching staff

Smallest and lowest paid staff in the NFL

Maybe he should get a new (young & hungry) HC who won’t be the 5th highest paid coach in the league (like Jibbs currently is) and then spread some of that money to the rest of the staff.

Or maybe he quit being a billionaire cheap ass. That’s a much more direct solution

We have two fewer coaches than Cincinnati.

You think that’s why they’re better?

[SteelerDayTrader]

Maybe he should get a new (young & hungry) HC who won’t be the 5th highest paid coach in the league (like Jibbs currently is) and then spread some of that money to the rest of the staff.

Or maybe he quit being a billionaire cheap ass. That’s a much more direct solution

We have two fewer coaches than Cincinnati.

You think that’s why they’re better?

When are you going to learn that being willfully obtuse is not a virtue ??

[jeemie]

Or maybe he quit being a billionaire cheap ass. That’s a much more direct solution

We have two fewer coaches than Cincinnati.

You think that’s why they’re better?

When are you going to learn that being willfully obtuse is not a virtue ??

Predicted answer received.

[Rod & Wire Mill]

There’s no Tomlin protégés cause all the assistants he’s ever had were somebody else’s protégés.

[Obviously]

Rooney won’t pay for top talent on the coaching staff

Smallest and lowest paid staff in the NFL

Agree Rooney is root cause. He enables NHALS.

[Obviously]

Or maybe he quit being a billionaire cheap ass. That’s a much more direct solution

We have two fewer coaches than Cincinnati.

You think that’s why they’re better?

When are you going to learn that being willfully obtuse is not a virtue ??