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Pretty obvious that Levis > Kenny

Post by TimmayLake » Fri Nov 03, 2023 1:19 am

The difference in physical talent, especially arm talent is astounding.

Levis:Kenny::Henry:Najee



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Post by tbsteel » Fri Nov 03, 2023 1:46 am

Levis has made more impressive throws in 6 quarters than Kenny has in two years.

It's going to be so depressing when we run it back with lil ken next year.

If you're a smart fan, you're rooting for Pickett not to give any false hope, and for us to lose a bunch of fucking games this year.
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Post by Stlcrtn1974 » Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:31 am

Another well aged post. :lol:

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Post by Dan Smith--BYU » Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:31 am

Scientific sample size of two games but you be you.
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Post by tbsteel » Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:36 am

Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:31 am
Another well aged post. :lol:
Anyone who watched that game tonight and thinks Pickett is a better player than Levis... I truly, genuinely don't know what the hell you're seeing.
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Post by BethlehemSteel » Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:43 am

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Post by Stlcrtn1974 » Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:48 am

tbsteel wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:36 am
Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:31 am
Another well aged post. :lol:
Anyone who watched that game tonight and thinks Pickett is a better player than Levis... I truly, genuinely don't know what the hell you're seeing.
Define better. Levis has played 2 games. Pickett is struggling badly, but he is winning. 7 4th quarter comebacks Isn't bad. Stats were similar, one td vs one int though was the difference. And as someone else pointed out, it should if been 4 ints.

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Post by CKSteeler » Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:52 am

The jury is out on Pickett. No one can deny he has made some big boy throws in 4th quarters. He is very inconsistent throughout the entirety of games.

Levis could very well go onto to be the more prolific passer. Better player, even. But I'm not writing off any QB who has won as much as Pickett has and that included key plays in the 4th. If he could channel that energy through a full 4 quarters, he'd be a great QB.

You do not need outlier physical talent to succeed in the NFL at the QB spot.

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Post by tbsteel » Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:56 am

Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:48 am
tbsteel wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:36 am
Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:31 am
Another well aged post. :lol:
Anyone who watched that game tonight and thinks Pickett is a better player than Levis... I truly, genuinely don't know what the hell you're seeing.
Define better. Levis has played 2 games. Pickett is struggling badly, but he is winning. 7 4th quarter comebacks Isn't bad. Stats were similar, one td vs one int though was the difference.
Define better?

More consistently accurate. Shows better footwork in the face of pressure allowing him to hang in the pocket and still make quality throws. Better ability and overall talent to make off platform throws. Pickett consistently misses high basically anytime he can't set his feet. That doesn't happen with Levis. Clearly superior arm talent. Levis is a better player and better talent.

It's a team game. We're playing at home on a short week against a QB making his second start.

Do you think Pickett looked better than Will tonight? I don't see it at all.
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Post by K_C_ » Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:56 am

Will Levis threw some of the most beautiful near INT’s I’ve ever seen.
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Post by Steelperch » Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:58 am

Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:48 am
tbsteel wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:36 am
Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:31 am
Another well aged post. :lol:
Anyone who watched that game tonight and thinks Pickett is a better player than Levis... I truly, genuinely don't know what the hell you're seeing.
Define better. Levis has played 2 games. Pickett is struggling badly, but he is winning. 7 4th quarter comebacks Isn't bad. Stats were similar, one td vs one int though was the difference. And as someone else pointed out, it should if been 4 ints.
I saw Levis accurately throw the ball down the field. I saw him identify blitzes, adjust protection and get the ball out quick for completions. I saw him get smacked around behind 4 backup o linemen but keep his eyes down field and step into throws instead of vacating clean pockets or going into the fetal position. I saw a guy with NFL arm strength who didn’t underthrown open receivers deep. And I never saw him sail a ball 4 yards over the head of a receiver 5 yards away or consistently throw balls behind his receivers.

Guess what, everybody who knows anything about football is saying the same things about Levis and Pickett. One guy has big time traits and potential that the other has never shown.

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Post by Steelperch » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:00 am

K_C_ wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:56 am
Will Levis threw some of the most beautiful near INT’s I’ve ever seen.
Not nearly as nice as Kenny’s under thrown deep balls or his over thrown short passes. At least he didn’t throw behind many targets tonight, so the little guy sure is improving! Maybe by age 26 he’ll put together a complete game.

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Post by CKSteeler » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:01 am

K_C_ wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:56 am
Will Levis threw some of the most beautiful near INT’s I’ve ever seen.
Kenny at times made Josh Dobbs look like Tom Brady tonight.

Pickett turned a would be TD into a near pick tonight. If we are keeping count.

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Post by K_C_ » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:03 am

CKSteeler wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:01 am
K_C_ wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:56 am
Will Levis threw some of the most beautiful near INT’s I’ve ever seen.
Kenny at times made Josh Dobbs look like Tom Brady tonight.

Pickett turned a would be TD into a near pick tonight. If we are keeping count.
Now discuss Pickens half assing it and costing Pickett a TD pass.

Bueller?
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Post by K_C_ » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:04 am

Steelperch wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:00 am
K_C_ wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:56 am
Will Levis threw some of the most beautiful near INT’s I’ve ever seen.
Not nearly as nice as Kenny’s under thrown deep balls or his over thrown short passes. At least he didn’t throw behind many targets tonight, so the little guy sure is improving! Maybe by age 26 he’ll put together a complete game.

(Lots of smilies)
I loved the under thrown deep ball to Austin that hit him in both hands and his stomach.
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Post by CKSteeler » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:05 am

K_C_ wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:03 am
CKSteeler wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:01 am
K_C_ wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:56 am
Will Levis threw some of the most beautiful near INT’s I’ve ever seen.
Kenny at times made Josh Dobbs look like Tom Brady tonight.

Pickett turned a would be TD into a near pick tonight. If we are keeping count.
Now discuss Pickens half assing it and costing Pickett a TD pass.

Bueller?
I'm literally in another thread bitching about that right now.

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Post by Steelperch » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:06 am

CKSteeler wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:01 am
K_C_ wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:56 am
Will Levis threw some of the most beautiful near INT’s I’ve ever seen.
Kenny at times made Josh Dobbs look like Tom Brady tonight.

Pickett turned a would be TD into a near pick tonight. If we are keeping count.
Ahh, Josh Dobbs. Here is a tale of 3 QBs. One guy is a career 3rd stringer who just got benched and traded. The next guy is being called the worst trade in NFL history. The guy below those two is being called the savior by some here.

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Post by zeke5123 » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:07 am

Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:48 am
tbsteel wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:36 am
Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:31 am
Another well aged post. :lol:
Anyone who watched that game tonight and thinks Pickett is a better player than Levis... I truly, genuinely don't know what the hell you're seeing.
Define better. Levis has played 2 games. Pickett is struggling badly, but he is winning. 7 4th quarter comebacks Isn't bad. Stats were similar, one td vs one int though was the difference. And as someone else pointed out, it should if been 4 ints.
Where the fuck did you calculate four interceptions?

Also two of your interceptions were late trying to score a TD against a defense that knew it was EZ or bust.

Pickett on the other hand had an amazing run offense and basically did Jack squat. Did Warren have a higher YPC compared to Pickett’s YPA?

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Post by R_S » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:08 am

I've been a Kenny defender but damn he missed a shit ton of easy throws tonight with no pressure in the pocket. As easy as throws get. Can't blame that on Canada.

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Post by Steelperch » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:08 am

K_C_ wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:04 am
Steelperch wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:00 am
K_C_ wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:56 am
Will Levis threw some of the most beautiful near INT’s I’ve ever seen.
Not nearly as nice as Kenny’s under thrown deep balls or his over thrown short passes. At least he didn’t throw behind many targets tonight, so the little guy sure is improving! Maybe by age 26 he’ll put together a complete game.

(Lots of smilies)
I loved the under thrown deep ball to Austin that hit him in both hands and his stomach.
Maybe some day when he’s a big boy he’ll actually lead a receiver instead of underthrowing them like he did to Pickens last week and did to Austin today. And maybe some day he’ll stop throwing behind guys like he did to Dionte last week.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:08 am

This is why this board is annoying far more than it should be

Too many fuckheads who don’t really have brains to hang at the grown folks table

Unbelievable that some here are actually saying Pickett is better than Levis at this point

Kenny is in the running for one of the worst in the last 20 years or so at this point

In his first game off the bench Levis threw 4 TDs

Even tonite in a loss his throws and reads were pretty good for a rookie QB
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Post by zeke5123 » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:10 am

Guys the Steelers had a higher YPC compared to YPA. How is that even possible? Pickett is garbage.

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Post by zeke5123 » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:11 am

Steelperch wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:08 am
K_C_ wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:04 am
Steelperch wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:00 am


Not nearly as nice as Kenny’s under thrown deep balls or his over thrown short passes. At least he didn’t throw behind many targets tonight, so the little guy sure is improving! Maybe by age 26 he’ll put together a complete game.

(Lots of smilies)
I loved the under thrown deep ball to Austin that hit him in both hands and his stomach.
Maybe some day when he’s a big boy he’ll actually lead a receiver instead of underthrowing them like he did to Pickens last week and did to Austin today. And maybe some day he’ll stop throwing behind guys like he did to Dionte last week.
You do know you are arguing with a complete moron? Best to ignore KC. Pearls before swine

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Post by zeke5123 » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:13 am

R_S wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:08 am
I've been a Kenny defender but damn he missed a shit ton of easy throws tonight with no pressure in the pocket. As easy as throws get. Can't blame that on Canada.
Canada called a good game. Running game was great (Harris was average and Warren was stupendous). Offensive line blocked. No excuses this game and Pickett was god awful.

It got to the point where he was only throwing dump offs to RBs and TEs off of PA as anything down field was an adventure.

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Post by Orangesteel » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:37 am

On the underthrow to Austin, the reason he dropped it is because he had to come back to it and the ILB that was basically left in no man’s land got in front of the ball at the last second.

It was underthrown.

There were worse throws/missed reads tonight than that one, but if he leads Austin even a bit there it’s an easy TD since the coverage assignment was shit (Austin our fastest WR vs Azziz Al-Shaair)
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Post by Dan Smith--BYU » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:38 am

I will concede that Levis' instincts on the hot reads seem better at this point.
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Post by jmacinwbp » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:44 am

zeke5123 wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:07 am
Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:48 am
tbsteel wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:36 am


Anyone who watched that game tonight and thinks Pickett is a better player than Levis... I truly, genuinely don't know what the hell you're seeing.
Define better. Levis has played 2 games. Pickett is struggling badly, but he is winning. 7 4th quarter comebacks Isn't bad. Stats were similar, one td vs one int though was the difference. And as someone else pointed out, it should if been 4 ints.
Where the fuck did you calculate four interceptions?

Also two of your interceptions were late trying to score a TD against a defense that knew it was EZ or bust.

Pickett on the other hand had an amazing run offense and basically did Jack squat. Did Warren have a higher YPC compared to Pickett’s YPA?
Which defense do you think was more worried about the running game, and schemed things to take it away, thereby making things easier for the passing game during most of that game?

Henry vs Naj & Warren, who do you think?

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Post by CKSteeler » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:51 am

I'd wager that both defenses came into this game looking to stop the run first and foremost, actually. Both teams had one WR they were looking to double throughout the contest and not much else to scare them.

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Post by jmacinwbp » Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:54 am

R_S wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:08 am
I've been a Kenny defender but damn he missed a shit ton of easy throws tonight with no pressure in the pocket. As easy as throws get. Can't blame that on Canada.

Agreed, if things didn't turn around at the end of the third and the fourth, I was going to post as much, and add even if the ribs were the problem, then that's on KP8 for saying he was good to go. But the trend of 4th quarter play displayed again, just can't be ignored.

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