Play of the Game: Dobbs --> Juju

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Play of the Game: Dobbs --> Juju

Post by Legacy User » Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:06 am

That was the biggest play of the game, by far.

If we go 3 and out there, from our End zone, giving the ball back at the 50 -- we probably lose that game.

The Dobbs completion showed me that the kid has absolute ice in his veins, and the coaching staff trusts him 100%.

HUGE PLAY - for the game and the season.



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Post by steelmann58 » Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:12 am

I agree that was the biggest plays of the game.JU Ju catch made me forget his big drop.

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Post by Havoc » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:15 am

steel wrote:That was the biggest play of the game, by far.


No. It wasn't. Let's not get carried away.
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:02 am

Havoc wrote:
steel wrote:That was the biggest play of the game, by far.


No. It wasn't. Let's not get carried away.


Agree. Chances are all they would have gotten would have been 3 points the way the D was playing. It was second and 20. All he had to do is not throw an interception.

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Post by Legacy User » Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:16 pm

Havoc wrote:
steel wrote:That was the biggest play of the game, by far.


No. It wasn't. Let's not get carried away.


well, it's a matter of opinion, of course

but there is no other play that was as big --not one.

That completion changed the momentum at the time. everything was going Balt's way and you could feel the game turning away from us.

After that completion, we got out of our end zone, no punt - Ben comes back, and completes a bobbled 50 yarder to JJ, and then we score a FG. None of that happens without the completion by Dobbs.

Just so impressive. hIs FIRST EVER nfl pass -- just incredible poise by that young man.

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Post by blu » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:25 pm

It was good to feel that drafting Dobbs was no longer a wasted pick. Something that was shown in the preseason & proven yesterday. Perhaps, we won't be in such bad shape with him & Rudolph when Big Ben may be out &/or fades away?

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Post by Havoc » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:24 pm

steel wrote:
Havoc wrote:
steel wrote:That was the biggest play of the game, by far.


No. It wasn't. Let's not get carried away.


well, it's a matter of opinion, of course

but there is no other play that was as big --not one.

That completion changed the momentum at the time. everything was going Balt's way and you could feel the game turning away from us.

After that completion, we got out of our end zone, no punt - Ben comes back, and completes a bobbled 50 yarder to JJ, and then we score a FG. None of that happens without the completion by Dobbs.

Just so impressive. hIs FIRST EVER nfl pass -- just incredible poise by that young man.


It was 1 play, a non scoring play, with a 7 point lead and over 12 minutes left in the game.

A lot of players busted their asses to get this win. Dobbs pass means nothing if we were not already in position to win. Dobbs pass doesn't mean much if the next series ended in a punt.

We had a 51 yd pass play on the same possession after Ben returned. Lots of players stepped up and made plays necessary for this win.

Having said that...

It was a huge emotional moment in the game. I was shitting my pants seeing Ben laying there after landing awkwardly with weight towards the throwing shoulder.

I was stunned that we threw that pass with Dobbs in the game. The Steelers bar where I was watching went crazy. A couple of us saying Fichtner dropped balls of steel. I then started a Dobbs chant... Dobb, Dobbs, Dobbs :D

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Post by K_C_ » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:51 pm

You didn't have to be a rocket scientist to know that throw was coming.

Sorry...I had to.
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Post by Legacy User » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:53 pm

...and again it was a called pass, there was no check to pass from a run call.

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Just so everyone knows, Ben Roethlisberger was joking when he said Josh Dobbs checked out of a run play to a pass. It was an intended pass for JuJu all the way. Ben was kidding, ok.

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Post by Legacy User » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:54 pm

What s scary is Mitch Trubisky would struggle to throw that to JuJu in stride in mid game...forget about zero warmups.
Reminds me of the time Charlie Batch went into Baltimore and beat the Ravens in the game where Manny had a big drop.

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Post by Legacy User » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:55 pm

KC wrote:You didn't have to be a rocket scientist to know that throw was coming.

Sorry...I had to.


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Post by Legacy User » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:59 pm

Joey's Pitbull wrote:What s scary is Mitch Trubisky would struggle to throw that to JuJu in stride in mid game...forget about zero warmups.
Reminds me of the time Charlie Batch went into Baltimore and beat the Ravens in the game where Manny had a big drop.


what is scary is that the bears spent a #1 overall pick on MT -- and I think dobbs might be better - and what was he - a late 4th rounder?

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Post by Jobu » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:35 pm

steel wrote:what is scary is that the bears spent a #1 overall pick on MT -- and I think dobbs might be better - and what was he - a late 4th rounder?

:lol: :lol: :lol: Not a chance in hell...

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:50 pm

Jobus Rum wrote:
steel wrote:what is scary is that the bears spent a #1 overall pick on MT -- and I think dobbs might be better - and what was he - a late 4th rounder?

:lol: :lol: :lol: Not a chance in hell...

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:45 am

I'm never going to be a "one play won/lost the game" person. Never. JJ's TD? Didn't lose the game for us. Just my opinion.

So at least we can all say that Dobbs balled hard. PRESSURE. No warm up. PRESSURE. Tight throw. PRESSURE.

Did I mention the pressure he was under? It's the Ravens. Close game. Terrible field position. 4th Quarter.

Kudos to Dobbs for balling out. HUGE play that took some wind out of the rats' sails.

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Post by swissvale72 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:12 am

Why's everyone so surprised that up 7 points, 2nd & 20 at our own 5, 4Q...we're throwing the ball? Regardless of who's under center?

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:49 am

swissvale72 wrote:Why's everyone so surprised that up 7 points, 2nd & 20 at our own 5, 4Q...we're throwing the ball? Regardless of who's under center?


Well dude Dobbs came in cold off the the bench.

Everybody in that entire stadium and watching at home figured a draw was coming.

No way on earth I ever believed they’d let a guy who’s never thrown the football in a meaningful game fire it down the field in THAT situation.

Brass balls.
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Post by Legacy User » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:07 am

KC wrote:
swissvale72 wrote:Why's everyone so surprised that up 7 points, 2nd & 20 at our own 5, 4Q...we're throwing the ball? Regardless of who's under center?


Well dude Dobbs came in cold off the the bench.

Everybody in that entire stadium and watching at home figured a draw was coming.

No way on earth I ever believed they’d let a guy who’s never thrown the football in a meaningful game fire it down the field in THAT situation.

Brass balls.


Swiss -- you can't be serious. You actually expected A PASS PLAY from a QB who has NEVER THROWN A PASS IN AN NFL GAME EVER?

Come on, man -- that's simply not true.

EVERYONE was expecting hand off up the middle. Dude came in cold off the bench, NEVER has thrown a pass EVER in the NFL - throwing FROM HIS OWN END ZONE== at a CRITICAL, PIVOTAL point in the game, when Ravens were gaining momentum -- NO ONE in that stadium - and definitely not the Ravens - was expecting him to sling it down the middle for 25 yards -- r u fucking kidding me?

KC is exactly right EVERYONE was expecting dive up the middle.

The play call was 1000% brass balls - and I loved it. That's partly why it worked. Totally unexpected. Ravens playing run all the way.

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Post by swissvale72 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:34 am

Sorry...believe it or not, I wasn't expecting a dive up the middle, or a draw, or anything of the sort.

No way in hell can a pass play on 2nd & 20, even if it was Groucho Fuckin' Marx at quarterback, can be described as "totally unexpected."

So, a running play is called, gains 5 and Ben comes back in 3rd & 15 in the shadow of his own end zone, up 7, 4Q, prepared to give the Ravens the ball back at midfield??? Nope, don't think so.

I was fully expecting Dobbs to pass the ball.

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:06 am

Not only wasn't anyone but swiss expecting pass, but a pass into the middle of the field??? 2 defenders close to JuJu? Maybe a hitch and go around 10-15 yards up the sideline. That's a safe bet with the safety sucked up, anticipating a handoff, and a good chance the corner bites, thinking we're trying to make 3rd down manageable. And even if he doesn't bite, you've still got the security of the sideline. I could have accepted an attempt like that with a cold, inexperienced qb.

But like everyone has said, big set of stones.

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Post by Alibe » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:27 am

The Dobb’s pass was on third down! It was 3rd and about 21. JuJu gained 22 yards.

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Post by Alibe » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:02 am

My bad! It was 2nd down and 20. Never mind!

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Post by Ice » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:23 am

Alibe wrote:My bad! It was 2nd down and 20. Never mind!


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Post by stillthere » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:13 pm

I don't think the pressure was on Dobbs because I don't think he had time to think about the pressure or magnitude of the situation. It is sometimes easier to be forced into action suddenly than to have time to think about it. Had Ben been injured for real just before halftime you may get a totally different level of play from Dobbs since he would have had 20 minutes to ponder what was going on instead of just being sent out there with a play that he now has to make sure everyone is lined up remember the count and make some pre-snap reads. He did not have time to let anxiety set in he had 3 things to do before the snap and 2 things to do after the snap.

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Post by Havoc » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:03 pm

The way these things work on the Steelers sideline is that Mike Tomlin charts the course for the general strategy – conservative or aggressive – and then the offensive or defensive play-caller takes it from there. Informed that the idea was to be aggressive, Fichtner asked Dobbs if he felt like throwing the ball down the field some.


The bolded still concerns me going forward.

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Post by Legacy User » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:59 pm

swissvale72 wrote:Why's everyone so surprised that up 7 points, 2nd & 20 at our own 5, 4Q...we're throwing the ball? Regardless of who's under center?

agree! lol. . I thought dobbs would hand off to Conner and punt coming. noway in hell did I think dobbs was going for it!!! huge huge play on that win. great pass by dobbs coming into game ice cold and in hostile place when crowd was bloodthirsty! awesome. can u imagine the tomlin rage if hobbs threw a pic 6? gutsy pass!

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Post by Legacy User » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:57 pm

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swissvale72 wrote:Why's everyone so surprised that up 7 points, 2nd & 20 at our own 5, 4Q...we're throwing the ball? Regardless of who's under center?

agree! lol. . I thought dobbs would hand off to Conner and punt coming. noway in hell did I think dobbs was going for it!!! huge huge play on that win. great pass by dobbs coming into game ice cold and in hostile place when crowd was bloodthirsty! awesome. can u imagine the tomlin rage if hobbs threw a pic 6? gutsy pass!


wait a second Bam -- you said you "agree!" with Swiss, but then you go on and explain how totally shocked you were that Dobbs actually THREW the ball and didn't just hand it off, as EVERYONE expected him to do.

But Swiss did NOT say that --- he is saying that NO ONE should be surprised that we executed a pass play in these circumstances. He believes that it was NOT a shocking, unexpected play call.

So, you should have started by saying DISAGREE!, not "agree!"

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Post by Legacy User » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:09 pm

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bam morris wrote:
swissvale72 wrote:Why's everyone so surprised that up 7 points, 2nd & 20 at our own 5, 4Q...we're throwing the ball? Regardless of who's under center?

agree! lol. . I thought dobbs would hand off to Conner and punt coming. noway in hell did I think dobbs was going for it!!! huge huge play on that win. great pass by dobbs coming into game ice cold and in hostile place when crowd was bloodthirsty! awesome. can u imagine the tomlin rage if hobbs threw a pic 6? gutsy pass!


wait a second Bam -- you said you "agree!" with Swiss, but then you go on and explain how totally shocked you were that Dobbs actually THREW the ball and didn't just hand it off, as EVERYONE expected him to do.

But Swiss did NOT say that --- he is saying that NO ONE should be surprised that we executed a pass play in these circumstances. He believes that it was NOT a shocking, unexpected play call.

So, you should have started by saying DISAGREE!, not "agree!"

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Post by Legacy User » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:35 pm

Whether you somehow knew they were going to throw, or thought they were going to run....Dobbs made a great throw, on time, with all the pressure of being a backup in that situation.
That is a simple fact.
Add to that it was the biggest throw of his life...and it changed the flow of the game. I doubt Landry would have made that throw, but thankfully, we'll never know!

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Post by Legacy User » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:43 pm

I sorta thought Swiss was being sarcastic! :? either way one clutch throw. mo was switching and dobbs put a dagger in that.

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