Steelers Training Camp Details:

[Thrillsseeker]

This coaching staff is so pitiful. There isn’t a single reason our O-line coach should be employed. None. He’s the Matt Canada coach of O-linemen coaches.

Pathetic.

[steelmann58]

Agreed never replaced MM

[gojira5150]

Yeah saying Dan Moore is a better LT than Broderick Jones is like comparing a Pinto to a Vega.

Still, Titans OL coach Bill Callahan one of the best in the business. Must’ve seen SOMETHING in Moore to sign off on that absurd contract.

I won’t be surprised if he fixes what crappy ass Pat Meyer couldn’t.

Left tackle a disaster and your best shot at blowing up NHALS once and for all.

That's a great point with Callahan.

Moore took about 5 steps back in his play last year, but Callahan might be able to get him back on track.

The same thing will probably happen with Jones once he leaves Pittsburgh.

Well, there is the ole Kevin Dotson fiasco. Traded to Rams who have a REAL HC who knows what he's doing with offense. KD is now very good to elite. Unbelievable that Jibba just SUCKS at building a NFL caliber offense.

[.Kodiak]

Agreed never replaced MM

I really can't believe they brought back Meyer for a 3rd season.

Tomlin is a career-killer. I think part of the problem is he can't upgrade these guys so they keep collecting a check. Fishing in a shallow pond and word is out. That alone should have gotten Tomlin fired years ago.

[bradshaw2ben]

From everything I’m reading, it certainly looks like the team needs a new left tackle


Let’s hope Calvin Anderson is serviceable, or we are going to regret letting Moore walk

Dude, what?

Moore was literally a turnstile last season.

Tennessee signing him to that huge contract was EASILY the dumbest move of the entire free agency period.

Broderick Jones might suck and he could be a massive bust but Moore was absolutely awful in every respect last season.

One factor: Tennessee has perhaps the best OL coach in the NFL and Pittsburgh likely has the worst. So, stranger things have happened.

[bradshaw2ben]

Yeah saying Dan Moore is a better LT than Broderick Jones is like comparing a Pinto to a Vega.

Still, Titans OL coach Bill Callahan one of the best in the business. Must’ve seen SOMETHING in Moore to sign off on that absurd contract.

I won’t be surprised if he fixes what crappy ass Pat Meyer couldn’t.

Left tackle a disaster and your best shot at blowing up NHALS once and for all.

Sorry, Drama... I posted before I read you saying exactly the same thing.

[CKSteeler]

I think Moore is going to do fine in Tennessee and look better here than he did elsewhere. Another guy who thought highly of Moore - Roethlisberger. The guy is a professional.

You know who isn't professional, but who the Steelers handed a starting job at LT to? Broderick jones.

[AirRescueFF]

Hired the coach with the 31st ranked OL the previous year. Then 18th, 29th, 30th, and 24th. And 15th and 19th as assistant OL coach to round out his NFL career.

[.Kodiak]

Reports out of TEN camp is that Moore is making tremendous strides.

https://fansided.com/nfl/former-steeler ... k1rc64gtkp
"Offensive line coach Bill Callahan had nothing but good things to say about Moore.

"So the big thing with Dan is, coming out of the system he was in, we're tweaking his pass sets. We are trying to get him more physical. Dan's worked extremely hard and has been unbelievably receptive and open to new ideas...and you can see his athleticism show up on the edge. We're working in training camp on not getting him any chip help. We're cutting him loose," Callahan said."

Just embarassing:
https://atozsports.com/nfl/tennessee-ti ... -callahan/

"‘“He’s filled with so much information. First of all, he’s a lot more intense, a lot more intense, a lot more hands on, an extreme technician, most definitely. But there’s certain little nuances and things that he’s teaching me, like with hand fighting and different things. And like, he just said something the other day, two days ago, and I was just like, wow. I sat back and I was like, Wow. I never thought about it that way.

[anpsteel]

Reports out of TEN camp is that Moore is making tremendous strides.

https://fansided.com/nfl/former-steeler ... k1rc64gtkp
"Offensive line coach Bill Callahan had nothing but good things to say about Moore.

"So the big thing with Dan is, coming out of the system he was in, we're tweaking his pass sets. We are trying to get him more physical. Dan's worked extremely hard and has been unbelievably receptive and open to new ideas...and you can see his athleticism show up on the edge. We're working in training camp on not getting him any chip help. We're cutting him loose," Callahan said."

Just embarassing:
https://atozsports.com/nfl/tennessee-ti ... -callahan/

"‘“He’s filled with so much information. First of all, he’s a lot more intense, a lot more intense, a lot more hands on, an extreme technician, most definitely. But there’s certain little nuances and things that he’s teaching me, like with hand fighting and different things. And like, he just said something the other day, two days ago, and I was just like, wow. I sat back and I was like, Wow. I never thought about it that way.

Between Green, Dotson, and Moore, you would think the powers that be would begin to recognize where the failure lies

[K_C_]

Reports out of TEN camp is that Moore is making tremendous strides.

https://fansided.com/nfl/former-steeler ... k1rc64gtkp
"Offensive line coach Bill Callahan had nothing but good things to say about Moore.

"So the big thing with Dan is, coming out of the system he was in, we're tweaking his pass sets. We are trying to get him more physical. Dan's worked extremely hard and has been unbelievably receptive and open to new ideas...and you can see his athleticism show up on the edge. We're working in training camp on not getting him any chip help. We're cutting him loose," Callahan said."

Just embarassing:
https://atozsports.com/nfl/tennessee-ti ... -callahan/

"‘“He’s filled with so much information. First of all, he’s a lot more intense, a lot more intense, a lot more hands on, an extreme technician, most definitely. But there’s certain little nuances and things that he’s teaching me, like with hand fighting and different things. And like, he just said something the other day, two days ago, and I was just like, wow. I sat back and I was like, Wow. I never thought about it that way.

Jesus H. Christ that's depressing.

[Thrillsseeker]

Agreed never replaced MM

Hard to replace the best O-line coach but the fact we have arguably the worst is yet another failure in this Fraud of a head coach.

[W&M_Steeler]

Agreed never replaced MM

Hard to replace the best O-line coach but the fact we have arguably the worst is yet another failure in this Fraud of a head coach.

Tomlin and Meyer have University of Memphis connections from back in the late 1990s. Yet another nepotism / old buddy network hire by Tomlin. Like Fichter and Butler being Tomlin's colleagues from Arkansas State and Canada getting an OC position with the Steelers after having given Dino a scholarship at UMD.

[Orangesteel]

Pat Meyer is setting this team back years.

[Thrillsseeker]

Agreed never replaced MM

Hard to replace the best O-line coach but the fact we have arguably the worst is yet another failure in this Fraud of a head coach.

Tomlin and Meyer have University of Memphis connections from back in the late 1990s. Yet another nepotism / old buddy network hire by Tomlin. Like Fichter and Butler being Tomlin's colleagues from Arkansas State and Canada getting an OC position with the Steelers after having given Dino a scholarship at UMD.

Yeah, certainly that is how the world functions. Right or wrong, it all points to Fraudlin. He should be taking more heat for all of these imo.

[anpsteel]

Agreed never replaced MM

Hard to replace the best O-line coach but the fact we have arguably the worst is yet another failure in this Fraud of a head coach.

That Mike Munchak is unemployed tells me something


Everyone in the league knows that he is easily one of the best offensive line coaches around

Additionally, he has several years of head coaching experience as well

If I recall correctly, when asked if he was open to returning to the Steelers, a couple years ago, his response was that he was open to anything, but he had not heard from anyone


All this is to say if the entire league has chosen, not to hire him, there must be something in some reason why

Without speculating what that reason is, I do believe it’s fair to say it’s likely something to do with Mike Munchak personally


As example you can look into Russ Grimm

[K_C_]

Agreed never replaced MM

Hard to replace the best O-line coach but the fact we have arguably the worst is yet another failure in this Fraud of a head coach.

That Mike Munchak is unemployed tells me something


Everyone in the league knows that he is easily one of the best offensive line coaches around

Additionally, he has several years of head coaching experience as well

If I recall correctly, when asked if he was open to returning to the Steelers, a couple years ago, his response was that he was open to anything, but he had not heard from anyone


All this is to say if the entire league has chosen, not to hire him, there must be something in some reason why

Without speculating what that reason is, I do believe it’s fair to say it’s likely something to do with Mike Munchak personally


As example you can look into Russ Grimm

From what I've read, Munchak simply isn't that interested in coaching anymore.

Even when he took the job in Denver, it was only because he would get to be closer to his family.

I think that fire has gone out and he just wants to relax. Dude is probably in his 70's now (I was wrong, he's 65) and wants to enjoy his retirement.

I'm sure he could easily find an o-line coach job if he wanted one.

There's a rumor going around Munchak will end up being the o-line coach at the University of Colorado, under Deion Sanders.

I don't think Munchak wants to leave Colorado if he's going to do any coaching.

[Thrillsseeker]

Agreed never replaced MM

Hard to replace the best O-line coach but the fact we have arguably the worst is yet another failure in this Fraud of a head coach.

That Mike Munchak is unemployed tells me something


Everyone in the league knows that he is easily one of the best offensive line coaches around

Additionally, he has several years of head coaching experience as well

If I recall correctly, when asked if he was open to returning to the Steelers, a couple years ago, his response was that he was open to anything, but he had not heard from anyone


All this is to say if the entire league has chosen, not to hire him, there must be something in some reason why

Without speculating what that reason is, I do believe it’s fair to say it’s likely something to do with Mike Munchak personally


As example you can look into Russ Grimm

Yeah, could be something there but I doubt it. Never heard one thing bad about him. Been talked about being one of if not the best O-line coach in the league. I’d lean way more towards his interest level just not being there vs teams not wanting him.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Pansylawyertalk is saying Rodgers sucking bad, no flow with DK Metcalf.

Steelers’ passing game with Aaron Rodgers is apparently sputtering

The Steelers have upgraded at the quarterback position. The upgrade has yet to fully load.

A recent item from Christopher Barbre of SteelerNation.com raises red flags about Aaron Rodgers’s performance in training camp.

The concern is a familiar one for late-career Aaron Rodgers. Not enough balls down the field. Too many short passes and checkdowns.

The connection between Rodgers and receiver DK Metcalf has yet to flourish. It’s still not clear who the No. 2 receiver will be.

They have more than a month to get it right, when the Steelers visit Rodgers’s most recent former team, the Jets, at MetLife Stadium.

It doesn’t help that the Steelers’ offense is facing a pretty good defense in practice. That will help the offense when it’s time to face other teams.

In theory.

Regardless, Rodgers and Metcalf were supposed to change the narrative. For now, it’s the same old story.

also says Will Howard left with hand injury today

Steelers rookie quarterback Will Howard left practice early Tuesday.

Howard injured his right hand and is begin evaluated, coach Mike Tomlin told reporters.

Tomlin said he thought it came on a center-quarterback exchange.

Mark Kaboly of The Pat McAfee Show said Howard gave a thumb’s up as he left the field on the front seat of a cart.

Skylar Thompson replaced Howard on the third-team behind Aaron Rodgers and Mason Rudolph. Howard leap-frogged Thompson on the initial depth chart.

The sixth-round pick has turned heads in camp after passing for 4,010 yards, 35 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in Ohio State’s national championship season in 2024.

Tight end Jonnu Smith left practice early with knee soreness.

[anpsteel]

Hard to replace the best O-line coach but the fact we have arguably the worst is yet another failure in this Fraud of a head coach.

That Mike Munchak is unemployed tells me something


Everyone in the league knows that he is easily one of the best offensive line coaches around

Additionally, he has several years of head coaching experience as well

If I recall correctly, when asked if he was open to returning to the Steelers, a couple years ago, his response was that he was open to anything, but he had not heard from anyone


All this is to say if the entire league has chosen, not to hire him, there must be something in some reason why

Without speculating what that reason is, I do believe it’s fair to say it’s likely something to do with Mike Munchak personally


As example you can look into Russ Grimm

From what I've read, Munchak simply isn't that interested in coaching anymore.

Even when he took the job in Denver, it was only because he would get to be closer to his family.

I think that fire has gone out and he just wants to relax. Dude is probably in his 70's now (I was wrong, he's 65) and wants to enjoy his retirement.

I'm sure he could easily find an o-line coach job if he wanted one.

There's a rumor going around Munchak will end up being the o-line coach at the University of Colorado, under Deion Sanders.

I don't think Munchak wants to leave Colorado if he's going to do any coaching.

That is an interesting take-

I could certainly understand "being done" - I'm sure coaching at that level is prone to burn out

in regard to his future with UoC- I can't see someone like Munchak working for Deion Sanders- I would think Munchak would be more likely to strangle him, than work with him lol

[anpsteel]

Hard to replace the best O-line coach but the fact we have arguably the worst is yet another failure in this Fraud of a head coach.

That Mike Munchak is unemployed tells me something


Everyone in the league knows that he is easily one of the best offensive line coaches around

Additionally, he has several years of head coaching experience as well

If I recall correctly, when asked if he was open to returning to the Steelers, a couple years ago, his response was that he was open to anything, but he had not heard from anyone


All this is to say if the entire league has chosen, not to hire him, there must be something in some reason why

Without speculating what that reason is, I do believe it’s fair to say it’s likely something to do with Mike Munchak personally


As example you can look into Russ Grimm

Yeah, could be something there but I doubt it. Never heard one thing bad about him. Been talked about being one of if not the best O-line coach in the league. I’d lean way more towards his interest level just not being there vs teams not wanting him.

I've not heard/read anything negative either- it just surprises me he's not employed (assuming he wants to be)

[anpsteel]

Pansylawyertalk is saying Rodgers sucking bad, no flow with DK Metcalf.

Steelers’ passing game with Aaron Rodgers is apparently sputtering

The Steelers have upgraded at the quarterback position. The upgrade has yet to fully load.

A recent item from Christopher Barbre of SteelerNation.com raises red flags about Aaron Rodgers’s performance in training camp.

The concern is a familiar one for late-career Aaron Rodgers. Not enough balls down the field. Too many short passes and checkdowns.

The connection between Rodgers and receiver DK Metcalf has yet to flourish. It’s still not clear who the No. 2 receiver will be.

They have more than a month to get it right, when the Steelers visit Rodgers’s most recent former team, the Jets, at MetLife Stadium.

It doesn’t help that the Steelers’ offense is facing a pretty good defense in practice. That will help the offense when it’s time to face other teams.

In theory.

Regardless, Rodgers and Metcalf were supposed to change the narrative. For now, it’s the same old story.

also says Will Howard left with hand injury today

Steelers rookie quarterback Will Howard left practice early Tuesday.

Howard injured his right hand and is begin evaluated, coach Mike Tomlin told reporters.

Tomlin said he thought it came on a center-quarterback exchange.

Mark Kaboly of The Pat McAfee Show said Howard gave a thumb’s up as he left the field on the front seat of a cart.

Skylar Thompson replaced Howard on the third-team behind Aaron Rodgers and Mason Rudolph. Howard leap-frogged Thompson on the initial depth chart.

The sixth-round pick has turned heads in camp after passing for 4,010 yards, 35 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in Ohio State’s national championship season in 2024.

Tight end Jonnu Smith left practice early with knee soreness.

The only thing I'll add, in respect to Rodger's performance during camp- and this is 100% speculation- Rodgers greatly prefers to operate out of the shotgun- and- just like every other QB over the past half dozen years- they are forcing him to play from under center, much more than he wants to.

Of course, I understand the need to operate from under center, if you intend to run a bunch of play action- but it still creates an obstacle for the QB- if they aren't comfortable playing that way-

[CKSteeler]

Rodgers is washed and I have no sentimental reasons to care about his performance this year. No Steelers fan does.

I don't know what people were really expecting here.

[Steeldrama]

A few pundits supposedly at camp with various opinions about the Steelers sputtering offense.

I’m sure there is plenty of blame to go around but I’m getting some serious Joe Walton vibes here.

I wanted to overlook Uncle Artie’s smug, condescending personality in hopes he’d be an upgrade over Matt freaking Canada but alas they both SUCK

Quite the eye for coaching talent ya got there, Mike.

[anpsteel]

So now highsmith is out with a groin injury

Is that five or six players, that have gone out with groin injuries so far?


Seems like they might wanna make an adjustment to their stretching routine

[jebrick]

Howard out 3 weeks with a broken finger

[.Kodiak]

Pansylawyertalk is saying Rodgers sucking bad, no flow with DK Metcalf.

It;'s also being reported the passing game is featuring mostly checkdowns and short passes.

So, like most of us expected, nothing is changing with Rodgers. He's going to run the same offense Ben did, save a Arthur Smith special wrinkles for special people.

[.Kodiak]

I could certainly understand "being done" - I'm sure coaching at that level is prone to burn out

in regard to his future with UoC- I can't see someone like Munchak working for Deion Sanders- I would think Munchak would be more likely to strangle him, than work with him lol

I remember PIT talked to him before hiring Meyer. He turned them down [likely] - and a year later supposedly is looking to get back into coaching? But preferred TEN. He knows Tomlin is a clown, and my guess is that was as much a factor in him leaving as wanting to be close to his daughter. Supposedly, Munchak is currently a consultant for the Rams.

https://steelersnow.com/ex-steelers-ol- ... -comeback/
Granted the article speculates he could want to come back to PIT. But given Meyer was such a dud for 2 years, it's a safe bet Munchak doesn't want to come back [probably turned them down a 2nd time] or he'd be the OL coach.

Sure, it's speculation. But does anyone really believe if Munchak and Tomlin were close or wanted to work together, that a conversation didn't take place this offseason? And Munchak wants to work, so the only real conclusion here is...not with Tomlin. Or perhaps not with Arthur Smith. But again, all fingers point back to Tomlin.

[anpsteel]

I could certainly understand "being done" - I'm sure coaching at that level is prone to burn out

in regard to his future with UoC- I can't see someone like Munchak working for Deion Sanders- I would think Munchak would be more likely to strangle him, than work with him lol

I remember PIT talked to him before hiring Meyer. He turned them down [likely] - and a year later supposedly is looking to get back into coaching? But preferred TEN. He knows Tomlin is a clown, and my guess is that was as much a factor in him leaving as wanting to be close to his daughter. Supposedly, Munchak is currently a consultant for the Rams.

https://steelersnow.com/ex-steelers-ol- ... -comeback/
Granted the article speculates he could want to come back to PIT. But given Meyer was such a dud for 2 years, it's a safe bet Munchak doesn't want to come back [probably turned them down a 2nd time] or he'd be the OL coach.

Sure, it's speculation. But does anyone really believe if Munchak and Tomlin were close or wanted to work together, that a conversation didn't take place this offseason? And Munchak wants to work, so the only real conclusion here is...not with Tomlin. Or perhaps not with Arthur Smith. But again, all fingers point back to Tomlin.

I agree completely

[Ice]

DJ Thomas-Jones waived, so there goes that hope for a single-Heyward Steelers roster.

Steelers sign Mikey Victor, who I liked a bit coming out of Alabama State in 2024. Think I might have taken him late in the DAT that year.