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Re: Tony Tap Out with more drama

Post by BethlehemSteel » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:44 pm

KC wrote:Madden Curse like never before.


This!!! It hasn't been really discussed much outside a handful of comments here.


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Post by Legacy User » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:44 pm

Laying the Wood wrote:
Nick79 wrote:He wasn't arrested, so no problem. Maybe the slut is at fault or was lying, HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.


Wow.


:lol:

What's the problem, Wood? Bitches lie.

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Post by Donnie Brasco » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:47 pm

Laying the Wood wrote:
Hulk Hogan-cum


I thought Gawker got sued out of existence for typing the same?

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:02 pm

How long before AB pulls a Rae Carruth? Wouldnt surprise me in tne least.

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Post by Jobu » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:19 pm

Antonio Brown...always the victim. Just ask him... or Shannon Sharpe.

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:23 pm

JaySteel72 wrote:How long before AB pulls a Rae Carruth? Wouldnt surprise me in tne least.


Don't rule out the possibility of some hot Dock Ellis action.

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:30 pm

Still Lit wrote:
JaySteel72 wrote:How long before AB pulls a Rae Carruth? Wouldnt surprise me in tne least.


Don't rule out the possibility of some hot Dock Ellis action.

Ok, i knew he pitched on acid but i had to Wiki him. Hot damn. Lol. AB is headed for that. He was nuts.

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Post by Louis Lipps Service » Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:12 pm

We're going to be lucky to get a 3rd rounder from this douche.

At this rate, he's going to find a way to get a 4 game drug suspension and drop that to a 5th rounder.

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Post by BethlehemSteel » Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:29 pm

Attorney in charge of the romper room is refuting the story

Antonio Brown's lawyer responds to TMZ report
Antonio Brown's lawyer refutes that his client was involved in a domestic dispute last month.

Hollywood, Fla. police confirmed to TMZ that Brown was involved in a dispute, but that no charges were filed. "The allegations are baseless and false," Brown's lawyer said, though it's unclear what he means by "allegations." "It’s unfortunate that the media is trying to use distractions like this and prior stories in an effort to tarnish my client’s name and reputation. We have no further comment."
Source: Jeremy Fowler on Twitter Feb 5 - 2:16 PM
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Post by the-other-burg » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:09 pm

Every team that wants to make a play at him is loving this. With each passing day AB’s market value takes a hit. If this keeps up, soon we will be in Santonio Holmes value territory.

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Post by Kodiak » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:16 pm

the-other-burg wrote:Every team that wants to make a play at him is loving this. With each passing day AB’s market value takes a hit. If this keeps up, soon we will be in Santonio Holmes value territory.


True.

But it only takes two dance partners to create a bidding war. Too much interest for anyone to "steal" him.

Not sure what the market really is, or what fair value is. Maybe do something like mid-R1 this year, and then PIT gives up a conditional pick ranging from R2 - R5 in 2020 based on performance.
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Post by Rod & Wire Mill » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:50 pm

SP wrote:If you listened to the podcast all year I’ve been saying this guy’s life is spiraling out of control, and that was before the week 17 fiasco. After seeing him at the SB, I’m long past being angry about him being a diva and to the point where I’m genuinely concerned about his well being. I’d love to see the Steelers and Rosenhaus get together and get this guy some help. He desperately needs it.


Well said, my feelings as well

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Post by CASTEELER » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:07 pm

Kodiak wrote:
the-other-burg wrote:Every team that wants to make a play at him is loving this. With each passing day AB’s market value takes a hit. If this keeps up, soon we will be in Santonio Holmes value territory.


True.

But it only takes two dance partners to create a bidding war. Too much interest for anyone to "steal" him.

Not sure what the market really is, or what fair value is. Maybe do something like mid-R1 this year, and then PIT gives up a conditional pick ranging from R2 - R5 in 2020 based on performance.


You would think that teams would want to do things the Patriot way now, stick with players that aren't troublemakers and do their job.
If not ship them to Pittsburgh and Tomlin!

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Post by stinger8 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:15 pm

Still Lit wrote:
SP wrote:
Still Lit wrote:Does not look like the best of times when it's all put together. Maybe CTE has deformed his brain.


Really makes me wonder about that Burfict hit. Ben’s behavior after the bike accident too. Traumatic brain injury and impulse control go hand in hand. Why your kids shouldn’t play football.


The wife informed me a long time ago that our son will never touch a football field unless a flag is hanging out of his pocket.

I've thought about the Burfict hit, too.

KC wrote:Gonna be tough to deal this cocksucker now.


You don't think GMs watching that video are impressed?


Or maybe your son says I like the contact, I like the physicality I'm good I will take the risk (low) to compete in a physical game. It's fun and rewarding as fuck. I did I'm OK glad my mom did not make decisions for me :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Post by the-other-burg » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:21 pm

Kodiak wrote:
the-other-burg wrote:Every team that wants to make a play at him is loving this. With each passing day AB’s market value takes a hit. If this keeps up, soon we will be in Santonio Holmes value territory.


True.

But it only takes two dance partners to create a bidding war. Too much interest for anyone to "steal" him.

Not sure what the market really is, or what fair value is. Maybe do something like mid-R1 this year, and then PIT gives up a conditional pick ranging from R2 - R5 in 2020 based on performance.


At this point if you’re a team not named the 49’ers, why even bother? You risk being stuck with a head case who will also likely be a malcontent. He has fucked the Steelers in more ways than one in this process. SF probably thinks they can get him cheap now and other teams will probably stay away unless they get a guarantee that he accepts the trade.

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:43 pm

Stinger8 wrote:Or maybe your son says I like the contact, I like the physicality I'm good I will take the risk (low) to compete in a physical game. It's fun and rewarding as fuck. I did I'm OK glad my mom did not make decisions for me :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


There’s a flagrant fallacy in your reasoning, but since you turned out so well, you’ll be able to figure out what it is for yourself.

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Post by Legacy User » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:05 am

Stinger8 wrote:I did I'm OK glad my mom did not make decisions for me :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


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Post by Legacy User » Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:12 am

CASTEELER wrote:
Kodiak wrote:
the-other-burg wrote:Every team that wants to make a play at him is loving this. With each passing day AB’s market value takes a hit. If this keeps up, soon we will be in Santonio Holmes value territory.


True.

But it only takes two dance partners to create a bidding war. Too much interest for anyone to "steal" him.

Not sure what the market really is, or what fair value is. Maybe do something like mid-R1 this year, and then PIT gives up a conditional pick ranging from R2 - R5 in 2020 based on performance.


You would think that teams would want to do things the Patriot way now, stick with players that aren't troublemakers and do their job.
If not ship them to Pittsburgh and Tomlin!


We don't appear to be keeping troublemakers.

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Post by 955876 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:32 am

Louis Lipps Service wrote:We're going to be lucky to get a 3rd rounder from this douche.

At this rate, he's going to find a way to get a 4 game drug suspension and drop that to a 5th rounder.


So then you don’t trade him.

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Post by Legacy User » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:43 am

BethlehemSteel wrote:He def needs professional help.


no lie ; what happened to this dude. more cash in hand the crazier he becomes.

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Post by Louis Lipps Service » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:56 am

955876 wrote:
Louis Lipps Service wrote:We're going to be lucky to get a 3rd rounder from this douche.

At this rate, he's going to find a way to get a 4 game drug suspension and drop that to a 5th rounder.


So then you don’t trade him.


Yeah. Before week 17, I got into an argument with a good friend of mine. My friend wanted to trade Brown and try to turn that into defensive assets. And again, this was before any of this went down. I told him that'd demolish our offense, and wouldn't result in the elite defense that seemed to think it was as his idea had way too many "ifs" that had to work out for it to feasibly work. On top of that, I'm a firmly believer that Tomlin won't win another super bowl unless he has enough elite playmakers to overcome his own shortcomings, and trading Brown runs counter to that.

However, after these past 2 months, I just don't think you can bring him back. He's completely toxic to us at this point and seems to be getting progressively worse. I don't believe him and Ben can co-exist, despite what Ben has gone on record as saying. And I do believe there are plenty of others in the locker room that are tired of the crap.

As talented as he is, and I've said before that he's the most talented WR I've ever seen in my lifetime, I think he's the point where him being here is a negative.

To quote a former coworker who liked to press his boundaries on what he could get away with "As long as my managerial overhead stays below my output, I'll be fine!".

Brown has eclipsed that mark, which is saying something considering his output.

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Post by blu » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:52 pm

Nick79 wrote:He wasn't arrested, so no problem. Maybe the slut is at fault or was lying, HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

While I wouldn't go as far as saying the women are lying or are at fault all the time but more often than not the police do take the woman's side so if he wasn't arrested this should tell you that AB should not be condemned for this incident.

In the last few months of my marriage, my ex called the police on me twice. Both times, the police after taking some time to assess the situation told her that she should take a time out & that I did nothing wrong. In the ensuing divorce, the judge gave me custody of the children despite her considerably overspending me by in legal fees, my never saying that she was a bad mother & that the older, conservative judge had previously never having given custody of children to a male.

I discovered you guys in its previous incarnation (stillers) when all the shit was going on & I needed to find something not alcohol- or drug-related to free my head. The posts could be a lot funnier then with replies many times including some referral to homosexual terminology.

The bottom line is that it's not always the man's fault in a domestic dispute involving the police. AB may not be a saint but there is little reason to over-demonize any denizen of the Steeler cuckoo's nest.

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Post by 955876 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:56 pm

However, after these past 2 months, I just don't think you can bring him back. He's completely toxic to us at this point and seems to be getting progressively worse. I don't believe him and Ben can co-exist, despite what Ben has gone on record as saying. And I do believe there are plenty of others in the locker room that are tired of the crap.

As talented as he is, and I've said before that he's the most talented WR I've ever seen in my lifetime, I think he's the point where him being here is a negative.

To quote a former coworker who liked to press his boundaries on what he could get away with "As long as my managerial overhead stays below my output, I'll be fine!".

Brown has eclipsed that mark, which is saying something considering his output.


I totally get all that. Just saying there will need to be another way for us to play hardball with him rather than simply giving him away (and taking cap hit) for peanuts.

Will set a real bad example. Not happy, just act like a huge douche and the Steelers will ship you out no matter the cost or return.

If a deal that benefits the Steelers can’t be reached then you keep him. And if he continues to act like a douche then you suspend him and play hardball that way...

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Post by StillMadAtSlobber » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:47 pm

Poltargyst wrote:We don't appear to be keeping troublemakers.


Only if they are coaches
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Post by blu » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:48 pm

955876 wrote:
However, after these past 2 months, I just don't think you can bring him back. He's completely toxic to us at this point and seems to be getting progressively worse. I don't believe him and Ben can co-exist, despite what Ben has gone on record as saying. And I do believe there are plenty of others in the locker room that are tired of the crap.

As talented as he is, and I've said before that he's the most talented WR I've ever seen in my lifetime, I think he's the point where him being here is a negative.

To quote a former coworker who liked to press his boundaries on what he could get away with "As long as my managerial overhead stays below my output, I'll be fine!".

Brown has eclipsed that mark, which is saying something considering his output.

95, I hope Rooney sees all this in a similar manner. Meanwhile, it's the team atmosphere that is the problem & AB's errant behavior is just a symptom.

I totally get all that. Just saying there will need to be another way for us to play hardball with him rather than simply giving him away (and taking cap hit) for peanuts.

Will set a real bad example. Not happy, just act like a huge douche and the Steelers will ship you out no matter the cost or return.

If a deal that benefits the Steelers can’t be reached then you keep him. And if he continues to act like a douche then you suspend him and play hardball that way...

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Post by BethlehemSteel » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:04 pm

More on the Tap Out Man....he's fucked, and we need to cut bait

https://www.tmz.com/2019/02/06/antonio- ... -violence/

More info in the Antonio Brown police investigation ... the NFL star's baby mama initially told cops he pushed her during a heated argument -- but then tried to get police to "cancel" her report.

It's all laid out in documents obtained by TMZ Sports ... a woman who has a child with Brown went to the Hollywood Police Dept. in Florida on January 18 to report a domestic violence incident that took place on Jan. 17.

The woman initially told cops she went to Brown's home to drop off their daughter and get reimbursement for the daughter's recent hair appointment.

The woman claimed Brown tried to kick her off the property -- and an argument ensued, with Brown ultimately using both hands to push her out of the doorway, "causing [her] to fall backwards to the ground."

The woman told police she suffered a scraped wrist as a result of the incident. Cops say they noticed the scrape and photographed the injury.

Cops say they gave the woman a domestic violence brochure and information on how to obtain a restraining order.

But, a short time later, the woman had a change of heart -- telling another officer she "wished to cancel her report" because she did NOT want to press charges against Brown.


Looks like we'll end up getting nothing for him, that's if he's not suspended first
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Post by BethlehemSteel » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:07 pm

pansysite:

Antonio Brown wasn’t arrested after a recent domestic dispute, but he could indeed face discipline from the league.

“We will look into the matter,” NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told PFT via email.

By saying “look into,” the league means it will investigate. Which means that an investigation could result in a suspension of Brown.

As previously noted, this could complicate the effort to trade Brown, since his new team won’t know whether Brown will at some point be not available. It’s also not known how long will take for the investigation to resolve itself, given that the league often takes much more time than it should when getting to the bottom of a situation.

Brown’s lawyer has called the allegations “baseless and false,” but the NFL will have the final say under a standard of proof far lower than the criminal justice burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Post by Kodiak » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:28 pm

No evidence and no arrest = NFL can go pound salt as far as a suspension.

They'll "investigate" because of appearances, but I can't see how you suspend a guy over a he said/she said complaint that was either withdrawn or found to be baseless.
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Post by Louis Lipps Service » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:30 pm

Kodiak wrote:No evidence and no arrest = NFL can go pound salt as far as a suspension.

They'll "investigate" because of appearances, but I can't see how you suspend a guy over a he said/she said complaint that was either withdrawn or found to be baseless.


Cause they've certainly never done that before...

They're going to pull the "Pattern of behavior" crap.

4 games reduced to 2 after appeal.

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Post by zeke5123 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:42 pm

BethlehemSteel wrote:More on the Tap Out Man....he's fucked, and we need to cut bait

https://www.tmz.com/2019/02/06/antonio- ... -violence/

More info in the Antonio Brown police investigation ... the NFL star's baby mama initially told cops he pushed her during a heated argument -- but then tried to get police to "cancel" her report.

It's all laid out in documents obtained by TMZ Sports ... a woman who has a child with Brown went to the Hollywood Police Dept. in Florida on January 18 to report a domestic violence incident that took place on Jan. 17.

The woman initially told cops she went to Brown's home to drop off their daughter and get reimbursement for the daughter's recent hair appointment.

The woman claimed Brown tried to kick her off the property -- and an argument ensued, with Brown ultimately using both hands to push her out of the doorway, "causing [her] to fall backwards to the ground."

The woman told police she suffered a scraped wrist as a result of the incident. Cops say they noticed the scrape and photographed the injury.

Cops say they gave the woman a domestic violence brochure and information on how to obtain a restraining order.

But, a short time later, the woman had a change of heart -- telling another officer she "wished to cancel her report" because she did NOT want to press charges against Brown.


Looks like we'll end up getting nothing for him, that's if he's not suspended first


So trespass followed by relative minor force to remove the trespasser from the property?

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