The Mason Rudolph Steelers at the Still Complaining about SB XL Officiating

[K_C_]

Laugh all you want. I’m sure you had all kinds of belief in Mason Rudolph. You probably knew he’d play this great too, right?



The amount of shit that I and a few others took for supporting Rudolph for 6 years and now the bus is full.

When Kenny turns it around you’ll be the first one diving into that lifeboat, saying you knew it would happen all along.

Lifeboat? Isn’t it called bandwagon?

Dude I will not lie, you are 100% right and I'm pretty fucked up which shouldn't be shocking on New Year's Eve.

[Texas Steel]

The only real mistake I saw Mason Rudolph make tonight was throwing the ball away on 3rd and goal when we got our last field goal.

The best thing to do there if you can't find anybody open is to take the sack. Because then at least the clock keeps moving. And the end of the game is slightly less stressful.

It was refreshing to see him throw it away a couple times when the receivers were totally covered rather than take a sack.

[Orangesteel]

Kenny ain’t turning it around you goddamn wack job.

But happy new year KC. For real.

[K_C_]

Kenny ain’t turning it around you goddamn wack job.

But happy new year KC. For real.

The next QB you take in your mock draft will be the next Big Ben.

You just watch and see!!

[zeke5123]

The only real mistake I saw Mason Rudolph make tonight was throwing the ball away on 3rd and goal when we got our last field goal.

The best thing to do there if you can't find anybody open is to take the sack. Because then at least the clock keeps moving. And the end of the game is slightly less stressful.

It was refreshing to see him throw it away a couple times when the receivers were totally covered rather than take a sack.

You mean when he missed a wide open Warren (that he should’ve spotted pre snap)? Or when he should’ve hit the turf to keep the clock running?

It is okay to nitpick while still saying Mason had a good game.

[zeke5123]

Kenny ain’t turning it around you goddamn wack job.

But happy new year KC. For real.

It is just wild the rationalization.

[Sir Lambert]

Steelers are still throwing it short of the sticks on 3rd down. It worked out at least once with YAC, but our team hasn't learned yet that you throw it PAST THE STICKS on 3rd or 4th down.

[K_C_]

Kenny ain’t turning it around you goddamn wack job.

But happy new year KC. For real.

It is just wild the rationalization.

Yes, the rationalization.



I used to tell folks around these parts Rudolph was going to end up a very good QB if given the chance.

Lots of laughter ensued. Tons of shots were taken at me for not saying Mason was brutally awful.

Kenny, at this point, has shown a shitload more than Mason ever did until now. 6th year QB Mason Rudolph.

Mason was down to basically his last shot in the NFL. Dude was fucking behind Mitch "Worst QB in the NFL" Trubisky on the depth chart and is now balling out.

Folks earlier this season actually told me I was full of shit for saying Mason should be the #2 ahead of Trubisky.

No......I'm not joking.

So yeah, some fucking mooks telling me Pickett can't develop is really going to make me feel differently.

[zeke5123]

Kenny ain’t turning it around you goddamn wack job.

But happy new year KC. For real.

It is just wild the rationalization.

Yes, the rationalization.



I used to tell folks around these parts Rudolph was going to end up a very good QB if given the chance.

Lots of laughter ensued. Tons of shots were taken at me for not saying Mason was brutally awful.

Kenny, at this point, has shown a shitload more than Mason ever did until now. 6th year QB Mason Rudolph.

Mason was down to basically his last shot in the NFL. Dude was fucking behind Mitch "Worst QB in the NFL" Trubisky on the depth chart and is now balling out.

Folks earlier this season actually told me I was full of shit for saying Mason should be the #2 ahead of Trubisky.

No......I'm not joking.

So yeah, some fucking mooks telling me Pickett can't develop is really going to make me feel differently.

Delusional. Also Mason is only 2 years older than your crush.

Also Rudolph will almost certainly end up “not a long term starter.”

[Orangesteel]

Kenny ain’t turning it around you goddamn wack job.

But happy new year KC. For real.

It is just wild the rationalization.

Yes, the rationalization.



I used to tell folks around these parts Rudolph was going to end up a very good QB if given the chance.

Lots of laughter ensued. Tons of shots were taken at me for not saying Mason was brutally awful.

Kenny, at this point, has shown a shitload more than Mason ever did until now. 6th year QB Mason Rudolph.

Mason was down to basically his last shot in the NFL. Dude was fucking behind Mitch "Worst QB in the NFL" Trubisky on the depth chart and is now balling out.

Folks earlier this season actually told me I was full of shit for saying Mason should be the #2 ahead of Trubisky.

No......I'm not joking.

So yeah, some fucking mooks telling me Pickett can't develop is really going to make me feel differently.

You are a loon.

[bradshaw2ben]

I get what you’re saying, but Trubisky started two fucking games, before he was benched. Let’s not act like he started half the season.
Now if you want to bitch about staying with little Kenny too long…

Dude......Trubisky entered a tied game at the Arizona 1 yard line.

The Steelers don't score, AZ goes 99 yards and then Mitch does what he always does.....HE TURNS IT OVER leaving AZ a short field, where they got another TD immediately.

Trubisky was directly responsible for 3 losses. Just him.

I’m sure Mitch had a lot to do with Najee being stuffed.

The problem is the best QB on the team was 3rd string. Pickett won’t be playing the rest of the year (however long that is) unless Rudolph is hurt. Pickett might never play for the Steelers again.

And that 3rd string QB is an unrestricted FA who just sent his asking price sky high. And who wants to start somewhere.

Steelers will likely have to pay him starter $ and anoint him as the starter in order to bring him back. Are you taking that bet as a front office if, say, he follows up these two games vs poor defenses with a mediocre game vs Baltimore's 2nd string?

I mean, I hope Rudolph is a new man and will never revert to the mean of what he showed previously, but Having Rudolph-Pickett as your one two next year doesn't inspire Super Bowl dreams.

Look, if Mason does lead them to wins at BAL & KC or something outrageous, then all bets are off.

[K_C_]

You are a loon.

Yep, I was called way worse than a loon for saying, for several years and probably among only about 2 or 3 people on this site who said that with patience, Rudolph could be a very good NFL starter.

Oh and that Rudolph was 10x the player Mitch Trubisky ever would be.

Folks told me I was an idiot and way worse than that for believing in Mason.



I’m sure Pickett will end up making some unnamed people look like total imbeciles too.

As Bart Scott once said; “Can’t wait!!”

[alancac98]

Can you fucking imagine believing Mitch Trubisky was a better QB than Rudolph or....I don't know, a better QB than ANYFUCKINGBODY?

Trubisky literally ruined this season all by himself if they don't get in.

We were alone on this island for a while…

Mason never played this well in his career, but he showed flashes and could really move the team.

Mason struggled (a little like Kenny) in finishing drives. Now Mason takes his time, goes through his progressions and is dropping dimes.

Trubisky simply has no NFL QB instincts. None.

I hope watching Mason helps Kenny understand he has to stay in the pocket and go through his progressions. Kenny learned absolutely nothing from watching Mitch play, except how to throw the perfect INT.

Actually, if you look back at the season Mason started for an injured Ben, he was making improvements weekly and was looking rather good before being knocked out by the Ravens. I was one who always liked Mason and thought he was the heir apparent to Ben. I was upset that they screwed him out of the opportunity to be the starter last year when it was clear he had beat both of them out for the job - everyone that saw preseason practices all said he was far and away the best! I'm glad he is doing so well and happy for him. Should he get offers from other teams, I believe he will be gone as he may let some hard feelings rise to the top. Mason should have been one of Tomlin's boys to begin with - they took him in the 3rd round, but for some reason Tomlin felt the need to go everywhere else and was/is enamored with bringing ex-1st round picks in.

[K_C_]

We were alone on this island for a while…

Mason never played this well in his career, but he showed flashes and could really move the team.

Mason struggled (a little like Kenny) in finishing drives. Now Mason takes his time, goes through his progressions and is dropping dimes.

Trubisky simply has no NFL QB instincts. None.

I hope watching Mason helps Kenny understand he has to stay in the pocket and go through his progressions. Kenny learned absolutely nothing from watching Mitch play, except how to throw the perfect INT.

Actually, if you look back at the season Mason started for an injured Ben, he was making improvements weekly and was looking rather good before being knocked out by the Ravens. I was one who always liked Mason and thought he was the heir apparent to Ben. I was upset that they screwed him out of the opportunity to be the starter last year when it was clear he had beat both of them out for the job - everyone that saw preseason practices all said he was far and away the best! I'm glad he is doing so well and happy for him. Should he get offers from other teams, I believe he will be gone as he may let some hard feelings rise to the top. Mason should have been one of Tomlin's boys to begin with - they took him in the 3rd round, but for some reason Tomlin felt the need to go everywhere else and was/is enamored with bringing ex-1st round picks in.

Mason’s biggest issue is the exact opposite of Kenny’s biggest problem (and I think it will be coached out of KP8 if he ever learns to relax) and that is Mason must be protected from himself. Mason has (or had, dude sure looks improved) no clock in his head that tells him he’s about to get blasted. Mason never had that sense great QB’s have to avoid danger. That’s why Earl Thomas almost killed him.

But now, Mason is getting the ball out on time and isn’t only playing fearless. He’s playing smart…..all because he has nothing to lose and is just going for it and playing his game.

It’s a pleasure to watch and if we sneak into the playoffs (fucking Trubisky the cocksucker) then this team could beat anyone.

Absolutely anyone.

[jebrick]

Mason is the classic NFL QB from the 90's-00. A pocket passer with limited mobility. He makes his reads and throws decisively. He does not have the mobility of the "modern" QB but as I have said, eventually all QBs need to be pocket passers. They can't keep running around forever.

KP and Mitch are not comfortable in the pocket. KP moves into sacks. I think Mitch gets overwhelmed. The Steeler offense was not designed for a mobile QB since they did not have one for at least 12 years.

I am as surprised as anyone that Mason has done as well as he has with this playbook. I think they will come down to earth next week as the Ravens will most likely have their starters in for a least a half as they have a bye the following week.

We may see KP next week now that the goal of the season has been reached. Would not want to hurt his psyche.

[bradshaw2ben]

We were alone on this island for a while…

Mason never played this well in his career, but he showed flashes and could really move the team.

Mason struggled (a little like Kenny) in finishing drives. Now Mason takes his time, goes through his progressions and is dropping dimes.

Trubisky simply has no NFL QB instincts. None.

I hope watching Mason helps Kenny understand he has to stay in the pocket and go through his progressions. Kenny learned absolutely nothing from watching Mitch play, except how to throw the perfect INT.

Actually, if you look back at the season Mason started for an injured Ben, he was making improvements weekly and was looking rather good before being knocked out by the Ravens. I was one who always liked Mason and thought he was the heir apparent to Ben. I was upset that they screwed him out of the opportunity to be the starter last year when it was clear he had beat both of them out for the job - everyone that saw preseason practices all said he was far and away the best! I'm glad he is doing so well and happy for him. Should he get offers from other teams, I believe he will be gone as he may let some hard feelings rise to the top. Mason should have been one of Tomlin's boys to begin with - they took him in the 3rd round, but for some reason Tomlin felt the need to go everywhere else and was/is enamored with bringing ex-1st round picks in.

Actually, I think he regressed in every game, culminating in the Cincy game where we were screaming for him to get pulled in favor of Duck.

[jeemie]

Steelers are still throwing it short of the sticks on 3rd down. It worked out at least once with YAC, but our team hasn't learned yet that you throw it PAST THE STICKS on 3rd or 4th down.

And on the 4th and 5 they failed to convert, the primary targets were once again deep down the field.

[jeemie]

Mason is the classic NFL QB from the 90's-00. A pocket passer with limited mobility. He makes his reads and throws decisively. He does not have the mobility of the "modern" QB but as I have said, eventually all QBs need to be pocket passers. They can't keep running around forever.

KP and Mitch are not comfortable in the pocket. KP moves into sacks. I think Mitch gets overwhelmed. The Steeler offense was not designed for a mobile QB since they did not have one for at least 12 years.

I am as surprised as anyone that Mason has done as well as he has with this playbook. I think they will come down to earth next week as the Ravens will most likely have their starters in for a least a half as they have a bye the following week.

We may see KP next week now that the goal of the season has been reached. Would not want to hurt his psyche.

Which is the funny thing about all this because Tomlin’s and Canada’s working hypothesis as to why Canada’s offense wasn’t functioning was because Ben was a statue his last year in the league, and if they went and got a mobile quarterback after Ben retired, that would make Canada’s offense function better. There were even a couple stories about how many of the concepts of Canada’s offense were used in Buffalo, and worked because Josh Allen was so mobile.

And who was backing up Allen in 2021? Why…Mitchell Trubisky.

You can make a case this one unquestioned assumption was the reason for the two disastrous decisions the Steelers made for their QB room post-Ben…signing Mitch Trubisky and reaching badly for Kenny Pickett in the first round.

Should be a textbook lesson in not selecting players based on perceived need. Select the most skilled players you can find for a position…don’t select one that fits a pre-determined need for your “system”.

[K_C_]

Mason never played this well in his career, but he showed flashes and could really move the team.

Mason struggled (a little like Kenny) in finishing drives. Now Mason takes his time, goes through his progressions and is dropping dimes.

Trubisky simply has no NFL QB instincts. None.

I hope watching Mason helps Kenny understand he has to stay in the pocket and go through his progressions. Kenny learned absolutely nothing from watching Mitch play, except how to throw the perfect INT.

Actually, if you look back at the season Mason started for an injured Ben, he was making improvements weekly and was looking rather good before being knocked out by the Ravens. I was one who always liked Mason and thought he was the heir apparent to Ben. I was upset that they screwed him out of the opportunity to be the starter last year when it was clear he had beat both of them out for the job - everyone that saw preseason practices all said he was far and away the best! I'm glad he is doing so well and happy for him. Should he get offers from other teams, I believe he will be gone as he may let some hard feelings rise to the top. Mason should have been one of Tomlin's boys to begin with - they took him in the 3rd round, but for some reason Tomlin felt the need to go everywhere else and was/is enamored with bringing ex-1st round picks in.

Actually, I think he regressed in every game, culminating in the Cincy game where we were screaming for him to get pulled in favor of Duck.

If you’re talking about the season Mason was almost decapitated by Earl Thomas, there is no doubt Mason was awful after he came back from that cheap shot. Played one pretty good game against the Rams and won, but overall he was terrible.

Dude’s brain was never right that year, similar to Ben the year he bounced his head off that old lady’s Oldsmobile.

Ben wasn’t Ben for a good portion of that season.

[Texas Steel]

The only real mistake I saw Mason Rudolph make tonight was throwing the ball away on 3rd and goal when we got our last field goal.

The best thing to do there if you can't find anybody open is to take the sack. Because then at least the clock keeps moving. And the end of the game is slightly less stressful.

It was refreshing to see him throw it away a couple times when the receivers were totally covered rather than take a sack.

You mean when he missed a wide open Warren (that he should’ve spotted pre snap)? Or when he should’ve hit the turf to keep the clock running?

It is okay to nitpick while still saying Mason had a good game.

No, I was speaking of the few occasions where coverage was tight and protection was breaking down and he threw it away rather than take the fucking sack. Obviously he should have fucking taken the sack at the end of the game.

[steelmann58]

I don't think you see either of #2 or #3 on this roster this year.