IND v ORG

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Burrow was throwing to elite, superstar level WR’s on a team loaded with 5 stars.

Mendoza is going to be IU’s only first round pick this April, unless some team is smart enough to realize Ponds is an incredible talent at corner.

Fernando’s WR’s and TE’s came, literally, from nowhere. IU has zero 5 star players and only a handful of 4 star players.

What Mendoza is doing with the talent IU has on offense is goddamn near supernatural.

Mendoza is another nobody from Cal just like his receivers. Indiana is a bunch of 5th and 6th year Seniors beating up on 4 star underclassmen from the bigger programs, Where the big name SEC and B1G schools have focused on the elite high school kids forever, Cignetti found a glitch in the matrix. He figured out you can beat elite talented young kids with very experienced and mature 23 year olds.

This further cements my draft grading thoughts of previous years. A guy like Kenny Pickett who was mud for 4 years in college then dominates one season at 24 years old tells you to avoid that player. They aren’t great, they are just an adult beating up on kids.

Great post and totally agree

Forward this post to the "Khan Artist".

[Dan Smith--BYU]

"A guy like Kenny Pickett who was mud for 4 years in college then dominates one season at 24 years old tells you to avoid that player. They aren’t great, they are just an adult beating up on kids."

Related to that is that pro scouts should throw away stats from say Ohio St. vs. Dayton or Alabama vs. Troy and college scouts should toss out stat whoring against doormats. The metric that matters is performance against good competition.

[K_C_]

A long way behind Burrow's season but LSU had a suckass defense so Burrow had to score a lot of TDs. Indiana is a quality team. amazing that the coach values production over a HS rating. Has he not gotten the memo?

Burrow was throwing to elite, superstar level WR’s on a team loaded with 5 stars.

Mendoza is going to be IU’s only first round pick this April, unless some team is smart enough to realize Ponds is an incredible talent at corner.

Fernando’s WR’s and TE’s came, literally, from nowhere. IU has zero 5 star players and only a handful of 4 star players.

What Mendoza is doing with the talent IU has on offense is goddamn near supernatural.

Mendoza is another nobody from Cal just like his receivers. Indiana is a bunch of 5th and 6th year Seniors beating up on 4 star underclassmen from the bigger programs, Where the big name SEC and B1G schools have focused on the elite high school kids forever, Cignetti found a glitch in the matrix. He figured out you can beat elite talented young kids with very experienced and mature 23 year olds.

This further cements my draft grading thoughts of previous years. A guy like Kenny Pickett who was mud for 4 years in college then dominates one season at 24 years old tells you to avoid that player. They aren’t great, they are just an adult beating up on kids.

This is some funny shit.



Let's look at Will Howard. 5th year QB with size, some mobility and he's a national championship winning QB. Won everywhere he played in college.

Why is Mendoza going to be the first player taken overall while Will Howard damn near went undrafted?

Mendoza has size and mobility and can process at an elite level and make every single throw, with incredible accuracy. Like splitting the atom level accuracy.

Thanks for playing.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

But then by that logic you have to admit that Will Howard is kind of a production over potential (the opposite of Brod Jones) Cignetti pick. Damn the number of stars look at the ability against competition. Also, Mendoza wasn't the current Mendoza at Cal.

[K_C_]

But then by that logic you have to admit that Will Howard is kind of a production over potential (the opposite of Brod Jones) Cignetti pick. Damn the number of stars look at the ability against competition. Also, Mendoza wasn't the current Mendoza at Cal.

Mendoza had elite size and potential, even at Cal. The production at Cal was nothing special but after one year with Cig, Fernando is throwing more TD’s than incompletions and rarely makes the wrong play.

This season, Mendoza’s production caught up to his immense potential.

[Steeldrama]

Cignetti found a glitch in the matrix. He figured out you can beat elite talented young kids with very experienced and mature 23 year olds.

Except it’s not a “glitch in the matrix”

NIL, the portal, and 6 years of eligibility make up the current landscape of college football

Penn State and every other school under the current “rules” of college football are free to take advantage of the same “glitch”

I don’t think Indiana is a sour grapes kinda situation as much as other schools need to adapt their approach until someone with a working brain restores order to college football.

Cignetti saw a window and he took it

Way further than most thought possible.

Go Cig!
Goooo Hoosiers!

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Mendoza under Franklin would have been Drew Allar

[K_C_]

Mendoza under Franklin would have been Drew Allar

I guess we’ll see what happens at the next level.

I never saw Allar as next level accurate…probably because he isn’t and I don’t think that will change whoever Allar’s next coach is.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

You have the advantage of hindsight, Cignetti didn't. Everything is obvious in hindsight. Surely you're not saying Franklin is as good at player development? If not, we don't know what would have happened to Allar with a better offensive coach.

I thought at the time teams like Miami and USC would be big NIL winners and not Indiana.

[K_C_]

You have the advantage of hindsight, Cignetti didn't. Everything is obvious in hindsight. Surely you're not saying Franklin is as good at player development? If not, we don't know what would have happened to Allar with a better offensive coach.

Cignetti got his first high major head coaching job less than 2 years ago.

He’s 64 years old.

[jebrick]

"A guy like Kenny Pickett who was mud for 4 years in college then dominates one season at 24 years old tells you to avoid that player. They aren’t great, they are just an adult beating up on kids."

Related to that is that pro scouts should throw away stats from say Ohio St. vs. Dayton or Alabama vs. Troy and college scouts should toss out stat whoring against doormats. The metric that matters is performance against good competition.

A scout that looks at stats is a bad scout to start. You can judge a QB without any stats. You can judge all of these players without any stats

[jebrick]

Mendoza under Franklin would have been Drew Allar

I guess we’ll see what happens at the next level.

I never saw Allar as next level accurate…probably because he isn’t and I don’t think that will change whoever Allar’s next coach is.

^^This^^
You can see the improvement on Mendoza from their first game to the last. The offense is basically the same but he made huge strides as a passer and his accuracy is Joe Burrow-esc in the last bowl game. The know will be that his offense is one read and that he does not have any zip throwing off platform.

[Steeldrama]

Canes’ DC Cory Heatherman is a tremendous coach.

Dials up some fantastic blitzes and has his Squad playing extremely PHYSICAL football.

There will be ample opportunity for Mendoza to make some of those off platform throws scouts want to see.

We know he can take a hit.

Ohio State’s Caden Curry blasted Fernando on the first series of the Big Ten title game.

That impressed me.

Anyway

Some GREAT football these past few days

I expect nothing less from the National title game next Monday night

KC

You live in Florida

You going to the game??

[K_C_]

KC

You live in Florida

You going to the game??

I had my second knee replacement this year on December 17th (I had the first one done last January) and while I'm walking unassisted with almost no pain (thanks, Oxy's!) and have gone to movies and shit, I'm not gonna be quite ready to go to a football game.

Wish I had known IU would be playing in the National Championship game (which no one on earth could have foreseen) and I would have postponed that knee operation!

[Steeldrama]

KC

You live in Florida

You going to the game??

I had my second knee replacement this year on December 17th (I had the first one done last January) and while I'm walking unassisted with almost no pain (thanks, Oxy's!) and have gone to movies and shit, I'm not gonna be quite ready to go to a football game.

Wish I had known IU would be playing in the National Championship game (which no one on earth could have foreseen) and I would have postponed that knee operation!

That is some unfortunate timing

Hope you make a full recovery

[K_C_]

KC

You live in Florida

You going to the game??

I had my second knee replacement this year on December 17th (I had the first one done last January) and while I'm walking unassisted with almost no pain (thanks, Oxy's!) and have gone to movies and shit, I'm not gonna be quite ready to go to a football game.

Wish I had known IU would be playing in the National Championship game (which no one on earth could have foreseen) and I would have postponed that knee operation!

That is some unfortunate timing

Hope you make a full recovery

Thanks dude I most definitely will!

[bradshaw2ben]

Burrow was throwing to elite, superstar level WR’s on a team loaded with 5 stars.

Mendoza is going to be IU’s only first round pick this April, unless some team is smart enough to realize Ponds is an incredible talent at corner.

Fernando’s WR’s and TE’s came, literally, from nowhere. IU has zero 5 star players and only a handful of 4 star players.

What Mendoza is doing with the talent IU has on offense is goddamn near supernatural.

Mendoza is another nobody from Cal just like his receivers. Indiana is a bunch of 5th and 6th year Seniors beating up on 4 star underclassmen from the bigger programs, Where the big name SEC and B1G schools have focused on the elite high school kids forever, Cignetti found a glitch in the matrix. He figured out you can beat elite talented young kids with very experienced and mature 23 year olds.

This further cements my draft grading thoughts of previous years. A guy like Kenny Pickett who was mud for 4 years in college then dominates one season at 24 years old tells you to avoid that player. They aren’t great, they are just an adult beating up on kids.

Great post and totally agree

Except that Mendoza, for example, was great before he got to Indiana (he just played in a conference where his team was on the wrong coast and a total afterthought). And, again, Indiana's best WR (I don't give to craps that he was a 3-star or got a late shot at the lineup, he's one of the best skill players I've seen in CFB this year), best OL, and core of their IDL are all freshmen and sophomores.

Your theory will be put to the test vs Miami, though... maybe the only playoff team that's as old or older than Indiana. Much like the Hoosiers they are an old and grown man team with a couple of stud Freshman/Sophs.

[Steeldrama]

Mendoza is another nobody from Cal just like his receivers. Indiana is a bunch of 5th and 6th year Seniors beating up on 4 star underclassmen from the bigger programs, Where the big name SEC and B1G schools have focused on the elite high school kids forever, Cignetti found a glitch in the matrix. He figured out you can beat elite talented young kids with very experienced and mature 23 year olds.

This further cements my draft grading thoughts of previous years. A guy like Kenny Pickett who was mud for 4 years in college then dominates one season at 24 years old tells you to avoid that player. They aren’t great, they are just an adult beating up on kids.

Great post and totally agree

Except that Mendoza, for example, was great before he got to Indiana (he just played in a conference where his team was on the wrong coast and a total afterthought). And, again, Indiana's best WR (I don't give to craps that he was a 3-star or got a late shot at the lineup, he's one of the best skill players I've seen in CFB this year), best OL, and core of their IDL are all freshmen and sophomores.

Your theory will be put to the test vs Miami, though... maybe the only playoff team that's as old or older than Indiana. Much like the Hoosiers they are an old and grown man team with a couple of stud Freshman/Sophs.

Exactly

Thank you for expounding on my point that ALL schools can capitalize on the current operating system of college football including the two teams who happen to be playing for the National Title.

To your point B2B, two of the canes star defenders are older portal players

DB Keionte Scott an Auburn transfer is 24
Stud DE AKeem Mesidor out of Temple is 25!!!

Actually, I think it was Fowler who too many times referred to Carson Beck as a two time National Champion quarterback with Georgia (omitting the part that he rode the bench).

But it shows that Beck at 23 has worked the jacked up free agency system of college football to his advantage just like Cignetti and Cristobal have done to benefit their programs.

I agree

The current system of college football is broken

But

These players AND coaches are smart to capitalize on it.