How Will the Steelers Improve? Suddenly and Dramatically

[Professor Half Wit]

I honestly believe a lot of the offensive players are dejected and not giving 100% because they know the scheme and play calling is shit. A new OC could work wonders for next season, this season was ruined the second Tomlin decided to retain Canada.

Assuming Tomlin had a choice.

[Kodiak.]

Andrew Fillipponi from The Pony Express wrote on January 12, 2021 "The Steelers have the cheapest coaching staff in the NFL. They're 32nd on money spent on assistant coaches. You get what you pay for. How does a team that values coaching and winning championships cut costs on coaches? Explain. It's not like their assistants are young."

I don't know how he got that data, since the Steelers don't publish the salaries of staff like some teams do.

Wait, are you suggesting there's circumstantial evidence I'm not simply inventing an alternate reality?

Cool.

Far as I know, Tomlin not responsible for signing checks.

They have a smaller coaching staff. I've already said that (and by "smaller", it appears to be 3-4 less coaches). Where is the data showing their assistants are underpaid, much less significatntly? I'll wait.

Once again, professor, I'll ask you to just stop pulling shit out of your ass. Pretty sure you'd fail a student for that.
https://steelersdepot.com/2022/03/study ... ing-staff/

You'll note in the article that coaching salaries "are not publicly available", so someone is either once again "misremembering" quoting Filliponi, or Filliponi was talking out of his ass. But if you can find the data Filliponi is referring to, then I will stand corrected.

[Professor Half Wit]

Andrew Fillipponi from The Pony Express wrote on January 12, 2021 "The Steelers have the cheapest coaching staff in the NFL. They're 32nd on money spent on assistant coaches. You get what you pay for. How does a team that values coaching and winning championships cut costs on coaches? Explain. It's not like their assistants are young."

I don't know how he got that data, since the Steelers don't publish the salaries of staff like some teams do.

Wait, are you suggesting there's circumstantial evidence I'm not simply inventing an alternate reality?

Cool.

Far as I know, Tomlin not responsible for signing checks.

They have a smaller coaching staff. I've already said that. Where is the data showing their assistants are underpaid, much less significatntly? I'll wait.

Once again, professor, I'll ask you to just stop pulling shit out of your ass. Pretty sure you'd fail a student for that.
https://steelersdepot.com/2022/03/study ... ing-staff/

You'll note in the article that coaching salaries "are not publicly available", so someone is either once again "misremembering" quoting Filliponi, or Filliponi was talking out of his ass.

But I am pulling shit out of my ass. I have no evidence.

I hope it is all Tomlin.

But I do wonder.

Some podcasters who “claim” they have contacts have suggested this.

But it’s all speculation.

[955876]

I honestly believe a lot of the offensive players are dejected and not giving 100% because they know the scheme and play calling is shit. A new OC could work wonders for next season, this season was ruined the second Tomlin decided to retain Canada.

Assuming Tomlin had a choice.

Why in the world would a 17 year tenured NFL HC who “would have a job within 5 minutes of being fired” put up with that?

And if he is not on board with Canada and yet puts up with it that makes him an even worse coach.

Believing in Canada and bri find him back while seeming dumb to us is at least palatable if HE believes in Canada.

Putting up with Canada because he’s told to and then pretending to be on board with Canada is just beyond asinine.

He’s a 17 year tenured HC. I firmly believe if HE went to Dunce and said this OC isn’t capable of getting it done Dunce would get him a new OC.

As I’ve said, Jibbs is lazy. Taking that further, Oh Canada is running the offense that Jibbs wants. As does Dunce.

Soooo just stop already with this notion that Canada has been force fed down the poor victim Mike Tomlin.

He isn’t a victim. Stop trying to make him one.

This is on him. 100%.

IF he really had a problem with Canada he’d force Art’s hand.

So he’s either a total potted plant or a complete pussy if your scenario is correct.

And neither screams NFL HC material if true and all the more reasons to fire his ass.

Dunce isn’t Jerry Jones. I think he (1) wants to save a buck and (2) wants things to run smooth without having to be involved too much.

If he was a tyrant micromanager we’d see it elsewhere.

Zero doubt if Tomlin wanted a new OC he could have one.

He wanted “continuity” for feeble KP. Gotta wrap our precious QB in a blanket and give him a binky.

[LakecrestSteeler]

I honestly believe a lot of the offensive players are dejected and not giving 100% because they know the scheme and play calling is shit. A new OC could work wonders for next season, this season was ruined the second Tomlin decided to retain Canada.

Assuming Tomlin had a choice.

Why in the world would a 17 year tenured NFL HC who “would have a job within 5 minutes of being fired” put up with that?

And if he is not on board with Canada and yet puts up with it that makes him an even worse coach.

Believing in Canada and bri find him back while seeming dumb to us is at least palatable if HE believes in Canada.

Putting up with Canada because he’s told to and then pretending to be on board with Canada is just beyond asinine.

He’s a 17 year tenured HC. I firmly believe if HE went to Dunce and said this OC isn’t capable of getting it done Dunce would get him a new OC.

As I’ve said, Jibbs is lazy. Taking that further, Oh Canada is running the offense that Jibbs wants. As does Dunce.

Soooo just stop already with this notion that Canada has been force fed down the poor victim Mike Tomlin.

He isn’t a victim. Stop trying to make him one.

This is on him. 100%.

IF he really had a problem with Canada he’d force Art’s hand.

So he’s either a total potted plant or a complete pussy if your scenario is correct.

And neither screams NFL HC material if true and all the more reasons to fire his ass.

Dunce isn’t Jerry Jones. I think he (1) wants to save a buck and (2) wants things to run smooth without having to be involved too much.

If he was a tyrant micromanager we’d see it elsewhere.

Zero doubt if Tomlin wanted a new OC he could have one.

He wanted “continuity” for feeble KP. Gotta wrap our precious QB in a blanket and give him a binky.

The other scenarios are too complicated. Simplest is the truth. Matt Canada gave Dino a scholarship and the die was cast. Tomlin liked Canada and their relationship was formed. Definitely not on Art.

[RemoAZ]

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[stillthere]

I was at work and just saw the title of this thread and have not read a single word of this but I would say that not being the Redskins/warriors/commanders/DCFC or what ever they are now calling that the team is already a major improvement. Maybe I am misspelling impoverishment or some other scrabble word.

I have heard several players on the team speak about toughness and execution. yadda yadda

If this team does not show up against Baltimore. I would like to be a fly on multiple walls all around the facilities for the "you are a bunch of pussies and soft" plus dumb.

I hope Tomlin has to tell the team to "whoa" instead of hey go sick em after he cuts their eyelids off with red paint in his hot kitchen..........

[LakecrestSteeler]

Even if we win it will be a sub 20 point game…probably around 15.5 points….just prolonging the inevitable loss at a critical juncture in the season, caused by unsustainably spiking the emotion and physicality for the Ravens just enough to cover the incompetence and normal points deficit from NFL average!

[alancac98]

This is the sad part about this whole thing. We have all been lulled into thinking that the improvement will be on a slow and steady climb! Just one more player…just one more tweak to the line….just a couple more weeks to work together!

You were one of the posters ready to fit KP with his gold jacket after he won the preseason SB…

I wouldn’t go that far, but I did think they cracked part of the code and I thought KP was the reason, and maybe he could be a small fQB this year. I thought Canada was being held back by QB play and KP could transcend Canada’s misunderstood E=MC^2 offense…it just took time and a few more parts.

It was all bullshit. Someone can’t orchestrate RBs, Line, WRs, TEs and QB to play music and score above average points per NFL game. He is so bad he makes the defense even worse.

I have seen the light. It will not get better….only thing that may happen is KP, GP or NH might will a win or two more.


Canada is an incompetent NFL OC. 15.5 points per game is it. You have seen the beginning, middle and end of this movie.

The one thing I can't understand is that he wasn't this bad at Pitt. How did he go from being pretty good at Pitt to completely sucking as one of the worst OC in the NFL. I know that college ball is not NFL ball, but he had some teams, including KC, hire him to expand on some concepts from what I recollect, particularly motion concept. Yet, he doesn't even use motion, so where did everything he represented prior to his hiring go? It's really weird.

[zeke5123]

3rd and 6 against the Jags. This is 100% the offensive scheme Tomlin wants. He just thinks "we need to execute better." The only way we execute better is if Tomlin's head coaching career is executed.

[Jobu]

The one thing I can't understand is that he wasn't this bad at Pitt. How did he go from being pretty good at Pitt to completely sucking as one of the worst OC in the NFL.

I’ll give you a hint…
It starts with T and ends in omlin!

[Kodiak.]

Wait, are you suggesting there's circumstantial evidence I'm not simply inventing an alternate reality?

Cool.

Far as I know, Tomlin not responsible for signing checks.

They have a smaller coaching staff. I've already said that. Where is the data showing their assistants are underpaid, much less significatntly? I'll wait.

Once again, professor, I'll ask you to just stop pulling shit out of your ass. Pretty sure you'd fail a student for that.
https://steelersdepot.com/2022/03/study ... ing-staff/

You'll note in the article that coaching salaries "are not publicly available", so someone is either once again "misremembering" quoting Filliponi, or Filliponi was talking out of his ass.

But I am pulling shit out of my ass. I have no evidence.

I hope it is all Tomlin.

But I do wonder.

Some podcasters who “claim” they have contacts have suggested this.

But it’s all speculation.

I mean, instead of being a curmudgeon asshole, you could try actually reading PPG where all the writers, over and over and over, have said Tomlin has full autonomy over coaches. There's has never been one shred of evidence to the contrary, other than speculation over the Arians/Haley thing.

But instead you misremember hstory and cite hearsay as evidence. I hope your classes are a bit more rigorous when it comes to facts.

[Kodiak.]

Why in the world would a 17 year tenured NFL HC who “would have a job within 5 minutes of being fired” put up with that?

But as you are no doubt well aware, the way to get rich and stay rich when one owns a billion dollar franchise is to save a few million bucks hiring shitty people to run it.

As every good business person knows, the only way to create value is to spend less money.

[Professor Half Wit]

They have a smaller coaching staff. I've already said that. Where is the data showing their assistants are underpaid, much less significatntly? I'll wait.

Once again, professor, I'll ask you to just stop pulling shit out of your ass. Pretty sure you'd fail a student for that.
https://steelersdepot.com/2022/03/study ... ing-staff/

You'll note in the article that coaching salaries "are not publicly available", so someone is either once again "misremembering" quoting Filliponi, or Filliponi was talking out of his ass.

But I am pulling shit out of my ass. I have no evidence.

I hope it is all Tomlin.

But I do wonder.

Some podcasters who “claim” they have contacts have suggested this.

But it’s all speculation.

I mean, instead of being a curmudgeon asshole, you could try actually reading PPG where all the writers, over and over and over, have said Tomlin has full autonomy over coaches. There's has never been one shred of evidence to the contrary, other than speculation over the Arians/Haley thing.

But instead you misremember hstory and cite hearsay as evidence. I hope your classes are a bit more rigorous when it comes to facts.

Well, I take my classes seriously, so yes.

The Steelers and especially this forum are for my entertainment. I don’t take it seriously. At all.

And, no. Won’t be taking time to read PPG sports pages. I’ll let you devote time to that.