Fixing the Oline

[Mick]

Colbert and his good ol boy scouting dept suck

the last three picks we spent on linemen all ended up 1st team all-pro.

We just haven’t devoted basically any resources to our lines in many years. And that’s pretty much how things look on the field.

That said, our Day 3 picks in recent drafts have been below average, and you can’t blame those on draft position or lack of opportunity on this roster. ‘Recent drafts’ particularly 2016-2020, but going all the way back to the antonio brown pick, the best player we’ve gotten in rounds 4-7 since then was kelvin beachum. But hopefully the people involved in those picks have already been replaced; the 2021 late rounders seem like at least an ok bunch. But going ten years without a single average starter from any pf your day 3 picks is…bad.

[Ice]

Is day three maybe where position coaches have the most influence? Obviously not sure, but I would figure the more obscure the picks begin to get, the more you should be turning onus over to your scouts, who've (presumably, I know) actually watched the tape or gone to games on those players. I'd really be intrigued to know a little more about how their process works on the Southside on things like this, particularly with some of the recent late-round results.

[bradshaw2ben]

Came upon this on twitter and wanted to see what you guys thought of these 2 gree agents. Linderbaum is a beast, we know that.

Realistic targets to fix the Steelers OLine

G - Austin Corbett (LA Rams) having a breakout season - just 26 years old

RT - Trent Brown (NE) gigantic people mover - 28 years old

C - Tyler Linderbaum (Iowa NCAA) One of the greatest Center prospects in history - 21 years old

What do you guys know about Corbett and Brown?

Wait. "One of the greatest Center prospects in history"? C'mon, man. I think he's got a lot going for him but he's also playing in the Big10, not the SEC. He looked good but not immortal vs Kentucky. I think he's probably a great prospect but generational is a big word.

I think you can draft RTs in mid rounds who can move people and they'll be younger and cheaper. I'd sign a C/G capable vet whose baseline is solid starter, + a swing tackle type who would be no worse than average RT in the NFL. That'll put them in position to not have to reach or act desperately for an OT or C in the draft.

[bradshaw2ben]

IMO - and I know this sounds crazy -this OL may be only 2 guys and some coaching away from being good.

Move Green to RG, and I think there may be some potential there. Move Moore over to RT and I think he can be solid for years. Then let's see how Okorafor looks with good players on both sides of him.

Leglue and Hassaunauer are nice depth.

That's a young line, and so I don't necessarily break the bank or trade a bunch of draft capital to get that LT and C. Satisfied to come out of the draft with one blue-chipper there, and find the other the next year. Of course, that's probably going to destroy Najee.

Extremely optimistically, I could see this team being just a QB away with 2 good drafts and some FA's. My realistic expectation is the complete opposite.

This is more or less where I'm at, although I wouldn't at all rule out Moore at LT nor Green at C. It's totally unfair to judge them as rookies thrown to the wolves, with poor position coaching, poor playcalling, and no time to just learn how to play at this level. I'm going to see what kind of a year two jump each makes before writing them off. I also think Leglue has shown a ton in the time he's had. Dotson, Leglue, Green all have some potential on the interior. Chuks is pretty upgradeable, so I personally have "OT who can play both sides well or be elite as one or the other" as the top of my OL wish list. I think C is going to work itself out, either with shuffling the guys they have or a mid-range vet FA. Remember that Leglue practiced at C andf they also wanted Dotson to learn how to snap. Maybe you give all three a chance to win the job next camp vs a FA vet and Hassenauer.

[bradshaw2ben]

Colbert and his good ol boy scouting dept suck

the last three picks we spent on linemen all ended up 1st team all-pro.

We just haven’t devoted basically any resources to our lines in many years. And that’s pretty much how things look on the field.

That said, our Day 3 picks in recent drafts have been below average, and you can’t blame those on draft position or lack of opportunity on this roster. ‘Recent drafts’ particularly 2016-2020, but going all the way back to the antonio brown pick, the best player we’ve gotten in rounds 4-7 since then was kelvin beachum. But hopefully the people involved in those picks have already been replaced; the 2021 late rounders seem like at least an ok bunch. But going ten years without a single average starter from any pf your day 3 picks is…bad.

I think Loudermilk--a pick I found particularly head-scratching--will be a starter soon. He, Dotson, and Dan Moore are the best day 3 picks we've had in a while, going back to Martavis.

[Greeksteel]

Came upon this on twitter and wanted to see what you guys thought of these 2 gree agents. Linderbaum is a beast, we know that.

Realistic targets to fix the Steelers OLine

G - Austin Corbett (LA Rams) having a breakout season - just 26 years old

RT - Trent Brown (NE) gigantic people mover - 28 years old

C - Tyler Linderbaum (Iowa NCAA) One of the greatest Center prospects in history - 21 years old

What do you guys know about Corbett and Brown?

Wait. "One of the greatest Center prospects in history"? C'mon, man. I think he's got a lot going for him but he's also playing in the Big10, not the SEC. He looked good but not immortal vs Kentucky. I think he's probably a great prospect but generational is a big word.

I think you can draft RTs in mid rounds who can move people and they'll be younger and cheaper. I'd sign a C/G capable vet whose baseline is solid starter, + a swing tackle type who would be no worse than average RT in the NFL. That'll put them in position to not have to reach or act desperately for an OT or C in the draft.

i didnt call Linderbaum 1 of the best prospects in history, some scout/analyst did...lets just agree hes an elite C prospect regardless of SEC vs Big10...how do you feel about Corbett and Brown?

[RemoAZ]

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Dale Lolley
@dlolley_pgh
JC Hassenauer said one change Chris Morgan made with the offensive line group was to bring more running backs and tight ends into the meeting room last week.

[DP39]

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Dale Lolley
@dlolley_pgh
JC Hassenauer said one change Chris Morgan made with the offensive line group was to bring more running backs and tight ends into the meeting room last week.

WTF? You can't be serious? We've never done that before?

WTF kind of outfit is Tomlin running?

Left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing? sheesh....

[955876]

Such an easy fucking thing for oh I dunno, the HC to fix. We been sucking balls all season and it doesn’t dawn on Jibbs to tell Klemm to maybe gets the backs and TEs involved in those meetings?

It’s almost like duh…

Jibbs too busy running the D and working on his press conference catch phrases.

What a lazy and disconnected motherfucker.

Hopefully the next coach isnt some fucking diversity quota hire.

My money is on Dunce hiring the first black female HC in league history.

Will help if them/they/it is transgender as well.

[Kodiak.]

WTF? You can't be serious? We've never done that before?

WTF kind of outfit is Tomlin running?

Left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing? sheesh....

It's worse than that. Pats himself on the back and takes credit for that performance, all for a minimal intervention that should have happened at least 2 months ago. And a development that really only happened because Klemm quit.

Tomlin has committed many fire-able attrocities the last decade, most of which have been discussed extensively. But the last few years we've really started to see how he operates, and it's not a pretty picture.

To be honest, I'm not sure he's actually a competent HC. He may be an average DC. Zero doubt in my mind with a decent HC that Ben has at least two more rings (start with #3 in 2010, and we are only talking at least one more the last decade).

[Jizz Mop]

Tomlin is easily the most overrated HC over the last 10 years of his stellar career

The dude is a complete fraud

If he spent 1/10th of the time on Xs and Os that he spends on trying to sound cool for pre and post game conferences we’d be a lot better off

But he wants to unleash hell in December and be singularly focused on the tasks at hand with shitty preparation

Fucking clown

[zeke5123]

Colbert and his good ol boy scouting dept suck

the last three picks we spent on linemen all ended up 1st team all-pro.

We just haven’t devoted basically any resources to our lines in many years. And that’s pretty much how things look on the field.

That said, our Day 3 picks in recent drafts have been below average, and you can’t blame those on draft position or lack of opportunity on this roster. ‘Recent drafts’ particularly 2016-2020, but going all the way back to the antonio brown pick, the best player we’ve gotten in rounds 4-7 since then was kelvin beachum. But hopefully the people involved in those picks have already been replaced; the 2021 late rounders seem like at least an ok bunch. But going ten years without a single average starter from any pf your day 3 picks is…bad.

I think Loudermilk--a pick I found particularly head-scratching--will be a starter soon. He, Dotson, and Dan Moore are the best day 3 picks we've had in a while, going back to Martavis.

With you on Loudermilk. He shows he is at least a rotational piece. Good pick.

Dan Moore...I don't know if he really is LT capable, but I think he easily could be a 7 year starter at RT. Good pick.

Dotson seemed like he was going to be great, but was pretty disappointing this year. Not sure where he fits going forward to be honest. You have to try to upgrade guard, but you want to give him reps.

[bradshaw2ben]

Came upon this on twitter and wanted to see what you guys thought of these 2 gree agents. Linderbaum is a beast, we know that.





What do you guys know about Corbett and Brown?

Wait. "One of the greatest Center prospects in history"? C'mon, man. I think he's got a lot going for him but he's also playing in the Big10, not the SEC. He looked good but not immortal vs Kentucky. I think he's probably a great prospect but generational is a big word.

I think you can draft RTs in mid rounds who can move people and they'll be younger and cheaper. I'd sign a C/G capable vet whose baseline is solid starter, + a swing tackle type who would be no worse than average RT in the NFL. That'll put them in position to not have to reach or act desperately for an OT or C in the draft.

i didnt call Linderbaum 1 of the best prospects in history, some scout/analyst did...lets just agree hes an elite C prospect regardless of SEC vs Big10...how do you feel about Corbett and Brown?

Corbett is a good technician but not exactly tough. The Rams are a good fit for him. Brown is a good play I'm not sure will be worth the price. I know you aren't the one who called Linderbaum that, just calling out the hype.