Ben speaks

[Donnie Brasco]

If Michael Irvin, Steve Smith, Joe Theismann, Booger McFarland and Ray Lewis were offered analysts gigs why not Ben then? Those I've listed are the worst I've ever seen FYI. I'm sure there were more before them. Just can't come up with the names off the top of my head right now.

Because in today's society, murdering someone is less heinous than allegedly raping them

[Quixotic]

Said he hasn't made up his mind about the radio show. I think he should reconsider and walk away. There will be plenty of time after his career to have talk shows. I'm sure he may even be targeted to be on one of the football networks as an 'analyst' at some point. Just focus on the rest of your short career and win more championships, please!

Ben would be disastrous as an analyst. Wouldn’t that involve WATCHING FILM? And … analyzing? That just ain’t Ben. He’s a great quarterback, because he’s a football savant. But the dude ain’t smart. Or articulate. Nor can he sit still long enough to watch a replay and say something about it.

[Steel Ubaldo]

If Michael Irvin, Steve Smith, Joe Theismann, Booger McFarland and Ray Lewis were offered analysts gigs why not Ben then? Those I've listed are the worst I've ever seen FYI. I'm sure there were more before them. Just can't come up with the names off the top of my head right now.

With Ben’s ALLEGED checkered history, there is little chance that the #METOO movement would allow for a TV role.

[Kodiak]

With Ben’s ALLEGED checkered history, there is little chance that the #METOO movement would allow for a TV role.

It would never even get that far.....Because of his history, Ben is hugely unpopular outside of PIT. And networks won't hire a guy that causes people to tune out, unless Ben wants to play the heel.

[COR-TEN]

You’re delusional if you believe that’s the reason AB orchestrated his exit from Pittsburgh.

I don't know Jobus.

I am perfectly willing to believe that AB is such a giant pussy / ego maniac combo, that Ben "disrespecting him" and not "giving AB his due propers" really did send him over the rails.

Naah...it was $$$, and JuJu getting more love. All the bullshit was just a smokescreen.

Did you watch his 25 or so minute interview with ESPN? He specifically stated that he has all the money he needs, over $100 mil, and he can walk away if he wanted to (funny how bell said the same thing). This was all his ego. Sure, he wanted money, but if would have been made MVP, team mates gushed over his performance, and got the lions share of targets, a little more money would have made him stay. He saw himself as the franchise player. Treating him like a #3 WR was too much for him to take considering how much time he puts into it. AB is holding a big grudge against BR, and considering his other escapades like speeding, shoving his child's mother, and throwing furniture off a balcony speaks volumes about how the problem was AB's fragile psyche.

[Kodiak]

Did you watch his 25 or so minute interview with ESPN? He specifically stated that he has all the money he needs, over $100 mil, and he can walk away if he wanted to (funny how bell said the same thing). This was all his ego.

I still say the meltdown was 100% genuine, and when Rosenhaus realized things were completely off the rails he realized it was a chance get more money in a trade.

[stairway 2 seven]

I wish Ben had said AB cynically exploited his light criticism because he wanted to be the highest paid wr in the league and break rec. records and didnt want his targets decreased due to spreading the ball around on offense.

[Jobu]

If Michael Irvin, Steve Smith, Joe Theismann, Booger McFarland and Ray Lewis were offered analysts gigs why not Ben then? Those I've listed are the worst I've ever seen FYI. I'm sure there were more before them. Just can't come up with the names off the top of my head right now.

Because in today's society, murdering someone is less heinous than allegedly raping them

Perception...do you see how Ray Lewis is idolized by the media? And the way Roethlisberger is demonized due to rape allegations, racial accusations, and the way he mistreated poor Antonio Brown?

[Ice]

You’re delusional if you believe that’s the reason AB orchestrated his exit from Pittsburgh.

I don't know Jobus.

I am perfectly willing to believe that AB is such a giant pussy / ego maniac combo, that Ben "disrespecting him" and not "giving AB his due propers" really did send him over the rails.

I thought it was a well-orchestrated money grab/fuck you to the team by Brown and Rosenhaus until Brown has continued to run his mouth over social media, after getting everything he could have asked for (except for a good coach, GM, owner, teammates, fanbase and organization, but why be picky?). He has some sort of social disorder. He can't leave it alone. Money was part of it, but he's got issues way beyond that. Oh, forgot sleepovers. Hopefully him, Chucky and Mayock have already logged a seasons' worth of footie pajama time.

[Donnie Brasco]

If Michael Irvin, Steve Smith, Joe Theismann, Booger McFarland and Ray Lewis were offered analysts gigs why not Ben then? Those I've listed are the worst I've ever seen FYI. I'm sure there were more before them. Just can't come up with the names off the top of my head right now.

Because in today's society, murdering someone is less heinous than allegedly raping them

Perception...do you see how Ray Lewis is idolized by the media? And the way Roethlisberger is demonized due to rape allegations, racial accusations, and the way he mistreated poor Antonio Brown?

When Ray was going for his SB trophy in his final season, the NFL played the "redemption" angle and practically gave him the Championship on a silver platter

When Ben was going for his SB trophy Fatfuck PK resorted to old fashioned muckraking

[Jobu]

Because in today's society, murdering someone is less heinous than allegedly raping them

Perception...do you see how Ray Lewis is idolized by the media? And the way Roethlisberger is demonized due to rape allegations, racial accusations, and the way he mistreated poor Antonio Brown?

When Ray was going for his SB trophy in his final season, the NFL played the "redemption" angle and practically gave him the Championship on a silver platter

When Ben was going for his SB trophy Fatfuck PK resorted to old fashioned muckraking

Yep, exactly what we’re talking about.

[LakecrestSteeler]

If Michael Irvin, Steve Smith, Joe Theismann, Booger McFarland and Ray Lewis were offered analysts gigs why not Ben then? Those I've listed are the worst I've ever seen FYI. I'm sure there were more before them. Just can't come up with the names off the top of my head right now.

Have to respectfully disagree with Micheal Irvin. I enjoy when he analyzes the Steelers. He is real, and let’s you know he only really cares about the Cowboys and WRs, so when he is talking about your team or favorite player it means something. He is funny and obnoxious. He is only good when he is shackled by the serious guys of the NFL. If he is with other guys of his ilk, he just gets too carried away. But I like him in the run up to big games.

Ray Lewis is pretty intense on Inside the NFL. He was just robbed of his education by poverty I would guess or his own bad habits. His vocabulary is probably the shallowest in the NFL broadcast pool. If he had vocabulary, he would probably actually be the most in demand broadcaster due to his intensity and defensive slant. I feel like he will explode sometimes because he can’t articulate his knowledge of the game and defensive philosophies specifically, quickly enough. That actually might be most of his intensity. I love watching Boom and Phil rib him and slap or punch him, and then they quickly recoil in real fear for a few split seconds.

Ben could easily be in the broadcast booth. Someone has to replace Steve Young, Boomer, Phil, the worst ever Fouts, Warner and a few others.

[Donnie Brasco]

If Michael Irvin, Steve Smith, Joe Theismann, Booger McFarland and Ray Lewis were offered analysts gigs why not Ben then? Those I've listed are the worst I've ever seen FYI. I'm sure there were more before them. Just can't come up with the names off the top of my head right now.

Have to respectfully disagree with Micheal Irvin. I enjoy when he analyzes the Steelers. He is real, and let’s you know he only really cares about the Cowboys and WRs, so when he is talking about your team or favorite player it means something. He is funny and obnoxious. He is only good when he is shackled by the serious guys of the NFL. If he is with other guys of his ilk, he just gets too carried away. But I like him in the run up to big games.

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Irvin was caught with hookers and blow. Again there is no "alleged" here-he did those things

Ben is a rapist according to 90% of America even though there were no criminal charges brought.

It's all perception...

[Kodiak]

Ben could easily be in the broadcast booth. Someone has to replace Steve Young, Boomer, Phil, the worst ever Fouts, Warner and a few others.

Maybe. I think the tell-all book has to come out first and try to set the record straight. But by that point, he probably won't care what a bunch of idiots who never met him think.

[COR-TEN]

BR is. . . how do I say this nicely. . . less than charismatic. He'd fail as a commentator or analyst, milledgeville or not.

[Legacy User]

Irvin was caught with hookers and blow. Again there is no "alleged" here-he did those things

Ben is a rapist according to 90% of America even though there were no criminal charges brought.

It's all perception...

I just give thanks that none of us ever pass false judgments on players from other teams without evidence or despite lack of evidence.



By the way, Ray Lewis was not in the fight in which two men were killed. So, he did not murder anyone nor was he involved in any act of murdering anyone. He was charged. But I bet a good portion of Steelers fans think Ray Lewis murdered someone or was involved in an act that led to someone's murder. Obstruction, yes.

Or do I not have it right? Memory is hazy on it.

[Jobu]

Well, the fallout from Ben’s interview with Pompeani has begun. Let me summarize...
“See, Antonio Brown and Leveon Bell were telling the truth all along.”

Ben...for the love of gawd...stay away from the microphone. And when you are required to speak, do the Tom Brady “sport cliche” bit.

[Jobu]

Irvin was caught with hookers and blow. Again there is no "alleged" here-he did those things

Ben is a rapist according to 90% of America even though there were no criminal charges brought.

It's all perception...

I just give thanks that none of us ever pass false judgments on players from other teams without evidence or despite lack of evidence.



By the way, Ray Lewis was not in the fight in which two men were killed. So, he did not murder anyone nor was he involved in any act of murdering anyone. He was charged. But I bet a good portion of Steelers fans think Ray Lewis murdered someone or was involved in an act that led to someone's murder. Obstruction, yes.

Or do I not have it right? Memory is hazy on it.

I honestly don’t remember a lot either, but wasn’t there blood on his suit? Or am I confusing this with something else?

[R_S]

Correct. Suit was disposed of and never found. It was confirmed in photos what he was wearing.

[zeke5123]

Well, the fallout from Ben’s interview with Pompeani has begun. Let me summarize...
“See, Antonio Brown and Leveon Bell were telling the truth all along.”

Ben...for the love of gawd...stay away from the microphone. And when you are required to speak, do the Tom Brady “sport cliche” bit.

This is why the media sucks.

Look at what AB has done over the last couple of years. Look at Ben. Who is the sane one here? All Ben did was say he had a part in the breakup, regretted it, and wish he could mend the harm. Pretty mature.

AB responds two faced.

And the media supports the guy who almost killed a toddler when tossing furniture out of his apartment because he is mentally unstable.

Blame is never one sided after a breakup. Ben owned up to his; AB continues to feud despite being more responsible for the breakup.

The media take on this really boggles the mind...

[Kodiak]

The media take on this really boggles the mind...

The media has had it in for Ben all the way back to his first few seasons. Peter King once said something along the lines of "Ben wouldn't kiss the ring, so we take shots at him every chance we get".

But let's remember how the media treated Ben from Day 1. He was supposed to be the more raw than Eli or Rivers. Rookies weren't supposed to do the things Ben was, especially "raw" guys from the MAC. His play made them all look like fools, so they kept trying to explain his success away. Eventually they all settled on the whole "game manager" thing because Cowher would take the air out of the ball when they had big second half leads.

So, yeah, maybe Ben needed better PR advice, but why would anyone give the media the time of day when they keep saying you're just a game manager?

[Steelafan77]

Zeke it's what is applied to grease the media cogs... It's what people want. People love the good ole tragic, negative, bad news angle. Always have always will. It's easier to exist in their world of shit when they perceive worse things are unfolding in other people's lives. It's a slight bit of a twisted dementia In my opinion.

[COR-TEN]

This is why the media sucks.
The media take on this really boggles the mind...

Conflict = Cash. It doesn't matter where the conflict is. Currently, the conflict is focused in one area. Tomorrow, it will be elsewhere. Follow the money.

It's why I laugh when people complain about the media. If you are 100% on board with deregulated capitalism, then STFU. This is what you want.

[Legacy User]

This is why the media sucks.
The media take on this really boggles the mind...

Conflict = Cash. It doesn't matter where the conflict is. Currently, the conflict is focused in one area. Tomorrow, it will be elsewhere. Follow the money.

It's why I laugh when people complain about the media. If you are 100% on board with deregulated capitalism, then STFU. This is what you want.

right,because wanting to allow different and many products to exist means you can't critizicize the product that you may get. the consumer is the best regulator around.

[zeke5123]

This is why the media sucks.
The media take on this really boggles the mind...

Conflict = Cash. It doesn't matter where the conflict is. Currently, the conflict is focused in one area. Tomorrow, it will be elsewhere. Follow the money.

It's why I laugh when people complain about the media. If you are 100% on board with deregulated capitalism, then STFU. This is what you want.

Anyone who says follow the money...

If it comes down to conflict, why can’t they spin it as AB acts like a rude dickhead to contrite reasonable QB who doesn’t almost kill toddlers.

That’s conflict and is actually a reasonable take.

[Legacy User]

When you guys complain about the media, are you bemoaning the reporting side or the opinion side?

Part of the blame lies with the blurring of opinion and reporting by media companies, but I think we likely can agree that part of the problem is also the existence of a large group of folks too stupid to make or understand the distinction.

99% of sports “media” is opinion because there ain’t that much to report.

[zeke5123]

When you guys complain about the media, are you bemoaning the reporting side or the opinion side?

Part of the blame lies with the blurring of opinion and reporting by media companies, but I think we likely can agree that part of the problem is also the existence of a large group of folks too stupid to make or understand the distinction.

99% of sports “media” is opinion because there ain’t that much to report.

While I believe there is an objective truth AND more importantly that we arrive at a fair approximation of the objective truth, I think everyone's understand is subjective. Thus, I think any report by someone is in part reporting and in part opinion. It might be highly "factual" but even the choice to print the piece is influenced by subjective opinion.

Thus, while I think the media has a role in helping us get to a fair approximation of the objective truth, I would prefer that the media admits it is not objective but a partisan (not necessarily in the political sense). In this way, I can attempt to modulate my perception of their reporting (both in terms of when their facts are really opinions, or what facts they aren't discussing).

[franco>madden]

By the way, Ray Lewis was not in the fight in which two men were killed. So, he did not murder anyone nor was he involved in any act of murdering anyone. He was charged. But I bet a good portion of Steelers fans think Ray Lewis murdered someone or was involved in an act that led to someone's murder. Obstruction, yes.

Or do I not have it right? Memory is hazy on it.

I honestly don’t remember a lot either, but wasn’t there blood on his suit? Or am I confusing this with something else?

I never pass up this opportunity to travel back down memory lane ...

"We need to forget about that Simba sh*t and focus on this Pittsburgh game!"

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1yzeo

[Donnie Brasco]

Irvin was caught with hookers and blow. Again there is no "alleged" here-he did those things

Ben is a rapist according to 90% of America even though there were no criminal charges brought.

It's all perception...

I just give thanks that none of us ever pass false judgments on players from other teams without evidence or despite lack of evidence.



By the way, Ray Lewis was not in the fight in which two men were killed. So, he did not murder anyone nor was he involved in any act of murdering anyone. He was charged. But I bet a good portion of Steelers fans think Ray Lewis murdered someone or was involved in an act that led to someone's murder. Obstruction, yes.

Or do I not have it right? Memory is hazy on it.

He aided and abetted the individuals involved.
No different than being charged with murder if you drive the getaway car during a bank robbery that has victims involved

[alancac98]

You’re delusional if you believe that’s the reason AB orchestrated his exit from Pittsburgh.

I don't know Jobus.

I am perfectly willing to believe that AB is such a giant pussy / ego maniac combo, that Ben "disrespecting him" and not "giving AB his due propers" really did send him over the rails.

Naah...it was $$$, and JuJu getting more love. All the bullshit was just a smokescreen.

I agree 1000x. The love for JuJu sent AB off his rocker and it all came to a huge head when JuJu was voted team MVP!!!