Weird wrinkle. Next to last game of season against Cleveland could mean nothing

[rooneytunes]

Ravens play the night before. Steelers could go into Cleveland game knowing if they win that day they can win division then and rest the final week.

Or it could happen everything for the division could rest on the final game vs Ravens and Browns game would be meaningless.

Would be interesting to see them rest starters that game and make sure as healthy as can be for Ravens.

I guess there could be remote possibility that other wild card spots could be gained with a Cleveland win but with the AFC looking like it is probably not

[955876]

Best scenario would be for the game against the Ravens to be meaningless so we can rest our old roster by making week 18 a bye week.

[rooneytunes]

Actually I apologize. Cleveland game could be for NHALS so Steelers will go hard-core

[bradshaw2ben]

Ravens play the night before. Steelers could go into Cleveland game knowing if they win that day they can win division then and rest the final week.

Or it could happen everything for the division could rest on the final game vs Ravens and Browns game would be meaningless.

Would be interesting to see them rest starters that game and make sure as healthy as can be for Ravens.

I guess there could be remote possibility that other wild card spots could be gained with a Cleveland win but with the AFC looking like it is probably not

Do you honestly think they would rest starters and risk NHALS? Not. Going. To. Happen.

[swissvale72]

Ravens play the night before. Steelers could go into Cleveland game knowing if they win that day they can win division then and rest the final week.

Or it could happen everything for the division could rest on the final game vs Ravens and Browns game would be meaningless.

Would be interesting to see them rest starters that game and make sure as healthy as can be for Ravens.

I guess there could be remote possibility that other wild card spots could be gained with a Cleveland win but with the AFC looking like it is probably not

Do you honestly think they would rest starters and risk NHALS? Not. Going. To. Happen.

Ummm.....Steelers beat Cleveland, that's 9 wins.

[Obviously]

Was it '08 when Ben got carted off vs. Cleveland in the last game which was pretty much meaningless?

[swissvale72]

Was it '08 when Ben got carted off vs. Cleveland in the last game which was pretty much meaningless?

It was

[Orlaco]

Worst case scenario…. Even if the Steelers lose the next two while Ravens win the next two, it’s STILL the Ravens game that decides the division winner. That I’m sure of…

There’s several other scenarios, where we can still win the division or be a wildcard team even with a loss to Baltimore.

[rooneytunes]

I think this week Steelers loss to Lions and Ravens win against Patriots makes the following week meaningless to BOTH Ravens and Steelers other than Steelers NHALS lol.

FOX won't like that with primetime Saturday Ravens vs Packers game.

Also a lot of fantasy championships are done on next to last week of season.

[Orlaco]

Dude…you’re just wrong.

You clearly don’t understand playoff tiebreakers.

[Who Dee Knee]

As I understand it, the Steelers win the division in EITHER of the following scenarios:

A. They beat Baltimore; OR

B. Lose to Baltimore, but win one more game than Baltimore over the next two weeks (us, at Detroit and at Cleveland; Rats home against New England and at Green Bay).

[rooneytunes]

Dude…you’re just wrong.

You clearly don’t understand playoff tiebreakers.

Wrong about what? Please explain. Maybe your wrong about saying I'm wrong.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1 ... ew_quirks/

[swissvale72]

Dude…you’re just wrong.

You clearly don’t understand playoff tiebreakers.

Wrong about what? Please explain. Maybe your wrong about saying I'm wrong.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1 ... ew_quirks/

I think you're right, Tunes. Where Steelers possibly get fucked is that common opponents record now trumps conference record.

[bradshaw2ben]

Ravens play the night before. Steelers could go into Cleveland game knowing if they win that day they can win division then and rest the final week.

Or it could happen everything for the division could rest on the final game vs Ravens and Browns game would be meaningless.

Would be interesting to see them rest starters that game and make sure as healthy as can be for Ravens.

I guess there could be remote possibility that other wild card spots could be gained with a Cleveland win but with the AFC looking like it is probably not

Do you honestly think they would rest starters and risk NHALS? Not. Going. To. Happen.

Ummm.....Steelers beat Cleveland, that's 9 wins.

Sorry, I was thinking about the situation if Ravens and Lions win this weekend. In that case, the Cleveland game means nothing and it has been suggested they could rest starters. Also, FWIW, let's not forget this will be Cleveland's and Shedeur's Super Bowl.

[swissvale72]

Do you honestly think they would rest starters and risk NHALS? Not. Going. To. Happen.

Ummm.....Steelers beat Cleveland, that's 9 wins.

Sorry, I was thinking about the situation if Ravens and Lions win this weekend. In that case, the Cleveland game means nothing and it has been suggested they could rest starters. Also, FWIW, let's not forget this will be Cleveland's and Shedeur's Super Bowl.

Always, always, always tough out IN Cleveland. That said, if ravens drop these next two, Steelers need to take just one of two (most likely in Cleveland) to make finale against ravens meaningless

[bradshaw2ben]

Ummm.....Steelers beat Cleveland, that's 9 wins.

Sorry, I was thinking about the situation if Ravens and Lions win this weekend. In that case, the Cleveland game means nothing and it has been suggested they could rest starters. Also, FWIW, let's not forget this will be Cleveland's and Shedeur's Super Bowl.

Always, always, always tough out IN Cleveland. That said, if ravens drop these next two, Steelers need to take just one of two (most likely in Cleveland) to make finale against ravens meaningless

IMO Ravens are more likely to win two in a row. Playing NE in BAL and NE's been a bit of smoke and mirrors. GB lost Parsons and I think they might come down to earth a little also. This weekend will really set the stage. BAL beats NE at home and you can forget week 17, because PIT isn't winning in DET unless there's a national emergency.

[swissvale72]

Sorry, I was thinking about the situation if Ravens and Lions win this weekend. In that case, the Cleveland game means nothing and it has been suggested they could rest starters. Also, FWIW, let's not forget this will be Cleveland's and Shedeur's Super Bowl.

Always, always, always tough out IN Cleveland. That said, if ravens drop these next two, Steelers need to take just one of two (most likely in Cleveland) to make finale against ravens meaningless

IMO Ravens are more likely to win two in a row. Playing NE in BAL and NE's been a bit of smoke and mirrors. GB lost Parsons and I think they might come down to earth a little also. This weekend will really set the stage. BAL beats NE at home and you can forget week 17, because PIT isn't winning in DET unless there's a national emergency.

Percentages are with your predictions, B2B...just being hopeful, like I was two weeks ago against Ravens when nobody, like NOBODY, including you and your podcast cohort, who I like, picked the Steelers to win. All that happens and do you have an early prediction on winner take all finale against ravens?

Me? I'll pick Steelers to win and will be a nervous fuckin wreck all game long.

[PennyBacker]

Steelers supposedly lost a meaningless game in Cleveland the final week of 2020—they sat Ben, Cam, and T.J.

The Browns won that game and proceeded to destroy Pittsburgh the following week in the Wild Card Round after jumping out to a 28-0 first-quarter lead.

No such thing as meaningless games—especially vs. the Browns.

They have to win vs. Cleveland, whether it makes a difference in the standings or not. These guys are professionals, send them out there to perform.

[jeemie]

I am just going to assume the game means nothing because I see no way the Ravens are losing to both the Patriots and the Packers.

And that is the only way the Cleveland game can mean something.

Other than for NHALS of course, but watch the Steelers clip the Lions somehow just to get NHALS early to spite me.

[rooneytunes]

Would be interesting if Cleveland game means nothing and Rogers rests and Garrett is going for sack record against Rudolph lol

[swissvale72]

I am just going to assume the game means nothing because I see no way the Ravens are losing to both the Patriots and the Packers.

And that is the only way the Cleveland game can mean something.

Other than for NHALS of course, but watch the Steelers clip the Lions somehow just to get NHALS early to spite me.

Why do you think no way, Jeems?

You don't think Vrabel will have his team ready to get back on the winning track?

And Pack,,minus Minca I know, will be fighting either for their playoff lives or for the NFC Norf

[swissvale72]

Also, if it turns out that Browns game is meaningless, and ravens game is everything… Steelers will definitely rest guys like AR from the potential impact with Miles Garrett and the Browns defense because under that circumstance steeler playoff starts January 4 against the ravens at Acrisure

[bradshaw2ben]

Also, if it turns out that Browns game is meaningless, and ravens game is everything… Steelers will definitely rest guys like AR from the potential impact with Miles Garrett and the Browns defense because under that circumstance steeler playoff starts January 4 against the ravens at Acrisure

Oh, you disregard NHALS. I guarantee the HC hasn't.

[lifelongsteel]

Let's get the 8-8 Steelers up against the 7-9 Ravens in the NHALS Bowl for all the marbles.

If Steelers win NHALS alive, division title, Tomlin stays
If Steelers lose the whole thing gets blown up

MIght be the most interesting Steelers game in a decade

I kid. Would like to see the Steelers build off the last two games, shock the lions, handle the browns and rest starters week 18 while Lamar doesn't bother to even show up in Pittsburgh.

[swissvale72]

Also, if it turns out that Browns game is meaningless, and ravens game is everything… Steelers will definitely rest guys like AR from the potential impact with Miles Garrett and the Browns defense because under that circumstance steeler playoff starts January 4 against the ravens at Acrisure

Oh, you disregard NHALS. I guarantee the HC hasn't.

Beat the Ravens and they got NHALS too. You think Tomlin's going to risk injury to AR on a game with no playoff impact with all in game for the playoffs upcoming? I don't.

[955876]

Beat the Ravens and they got NHALS too. You think Tomlin's going to risk injury to AR on a game with no playoff impact

You are talking about a coach that risked injury and the game to get AB one catch for that 5 catch 50 yards bullshit or whatever it was rather than taking a knee as he should have.

Don’t put anything past this turd burglar.

[swissvale72]

Beat the Ravens and they got NHALS too. You think Tomlin's going to risk injury to AR on a game with no playoff impact

You are talking about a coach that risked injury and the game to get AB one catch for that 5 catch 50 yards bullshit or whatever it was rather than taking a knee as he should have.

Don’t put anything past this turd burglar.

I remember that well, it was bullshit, and I was pissed! That said there was infinitely less risk in having done that then there would be an ex exposing AR Miles Garrett's past rush over an entire game. I don't think even game day dumb fuck Tomlin would do that… At least I would hope he wouldn't.

[bradshaw2ben]

Also, if it turns out that Browns game is meaningless, and ravens game is everything… Steelers will definitely rest guys like AR from the potential impact with Miles Garrett and the Browns defense because under that circumstance steeler playoff starts January 4 against the ravens at Acrisure

Oh, you disregard NHALS. I guarantee the HC hasn't.

Beat the Ravens and they got NHALS too. You think Tomlin's going to risk injury to AR on a game with no playoff impact with all in game for the playoffs upcoming? I don't.

I think he will not deviate from the plan until NHALS is achieved. I think he believes it is his legacy. People do weird, counter-intuitive stuff when they think it's their legacy on the line.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

This thread

[swissvale72]

Oh, you disregard NHALS. I guarantee the HC hasn't.

Beat the Ravens and they got NHALS too. You think Tomlin's going to risk injury to AR on a game with no playoff impact with all in game for the playoffs upcoming? I don't.

I think he will not deviate from the plan until NHALS is achieved. I think he believes it is his legacy. People do weird, counter-intuitive stuff when they think it's their legacy on the line.

Well, let's just hope that his legacy doesn't include blowing his chance to win his first home playoff game in eight years with fans and attendance because he gets his quarterback hurt in a meaningless game