Can Jones be any worse?

[RemoAZ]

PFF: Steelers’ Dan Moore Jr. Worst OT in NFL in Week 1
https://steelersnow.com/pittsburgh-stee ... fl-week-1/?

Dan Moore Jr. had a Week 1 to forget against the fearsome San Francisco 49ers pass rush. Moore allowed one sack, two quarterback hits, and six hurries on the day. That adds up to an astounding nine quarterback pressures attributed to one player. The sack came from when Moore switched to right tackle following the potential concussion of Chuks Okorafor.

However, Pro Football Focus took it one step further. While they charted Moore with all those stats, he ranked dead last among all NFL offensive tackles in Week 1 with a 33.7 grade. His pass-blocking grade was even worse, ranking 22.8, or one of the worst in the entire NFL. It was a tough day at the office for Moore, who is slated to start at right tackle if Okorafor can not go with that concussion.

Somehow, Moore was not the worst-rated lineman on the Steelers in pass protection, with right guard James Daniels earning a 20.8 grade. However, Daniels earned a 54.3 grade after earning an elite run-blocking grade for the day. To say the least, it was not the day Dan Moore expected from a strong training camp.

[yygy]

Yeah and imo he’s improved.

Bo place starting in nfl. Maybe right side. Chux sux.

Not sure jones in quite ready. This is when it’d be handy to have a pro caliber OC who could help scheme protections to help a rookie LT and really a rookie qb

[stillthere]

I don't take anything that PFF puts out as anything other than entertainment. half the people doing grades don't really know what football is.

[SteelerDayTrader]

I don't take anything that PFF puts out as anything other than entertainment. half the people doing grades don't really know what football is.

[jeemie]

I don't take anything that PFF puts out as anything other than entertainment. half the people doing grades don't really know what football is.

Be that as it may, Moore really sucked ass on Sunday.

The entire line pretty much did.

[the-other-burg]

Who needs Mike Munchak

[K_C_]

I don't take anything that PFF puts out as anything other than entertainment. half the people doing grades don't really know what football is.

Be that as it may, Moore really sucked ass on Sunday.

The entire line pretty much did.

This is my problem.

EVERYONE except TJ Watt, on both sides of the ball were brutally awful.

Especially Kenny and the entire o-line. I’m not buying Pickett was concussed ala Tua. I think he plays different at home, that’s why expect a win on Sunday.

But the ENTIRE defense (besides Watt who actually has pride) and o-line should not have collected a check after that game.

[955876]

I think he plays different at home, that’s why expect a win on Sunday.

Wasn’t he at home this past Sunday?

Hard to tell given the sea of red but I’m pretty sure we were at Heinz errrrrr whatever the fuck it’s called these days.

I’m trying hard to like KP. Has lots of things to like.

It’s past time he took over a game though.

I fear he will mix in some stinkers with a few impressive ones while adding plenty of mediocre ones.

I think we all know good is the enemy of great. And with Jibbs as HC, you need a great QB as he isn’t good enough to win with a mere good one. Shannahan can. Jibbs can’t. The Wordsmiff needs above average talent to hide his many warts.

Clock is ticking. KP needs to show me something other than being accurate on a short to intermediate pass.

I expect that out of a franchise QB. It can’t be your greatest attribute though…

[Works At A Bank]

Who needs Mike Munchak

The day he left is when the wheels REALLY starting falling off the cart. Of all the positional coaches this team has had through the Tomlin years that was the ONE guy they needed the most.

[Baltostiller]

Who needs Mike Munchak

The day he left is when the wheels REALLY starting falling off the cart. Of all the positional coaches this team has had through the Tomlin years that was the ONE guy they needed the most.

I believe that Munchak is on the street now. The Deuce should back up the Brinks truck to his house and tell him to have at it and come back as the OL coach/run game coordniator.

[Charles Demarr]

I don't take anything that PFF puts out as anything other than entertainment. half the people doing grades don't really know what football is.

Moore fucking sucked. He was comically bad. If anything, PFF is being nice.

[fractalsteel]

Who needs Mike Munchak

The day he left is when the wheels REALLY starting falling off the cart. Of all the positional coaches this team has had through the Tomlin years that was the ONE guy they needed the most.

I believe that Munchak is on the street now. The Deuce should back up the Brinks truck to his house and tell him to have at it and come back as the OL coach/run game coordniator.

It would be great if he came back but he is 63 and probably enjoying retirement and his family. And he would take one look at the Steelers offense and who is coordinating it and probably pass on it. Hard pass

[daikyu]

This!

Munchak is a Hall of Fame level OL coach. Any team in the league would take him in a heartbeat. I am assuming the only reason he is not coaching somewhere is that Munchak chooses not to be coaching.

The day he left is when the wheels REALLY starting falling off the cart. Of all the positional coaches this team has had through the Tomlin years that was the ONE guy they needed the most.

I believe that Munchak is on the street now. The Deuce should back up the Brinks truck to his house and tell him to have at it and come back as the OL coach/run game coordniator.

It would be great if he came back but he is 63 and probably enjoying retirement and his family. And he would take one look at the Steelers offense and who is coordinating it and probably pass on it. Hard pass

[langer]

Who said Dan Moore Jr had a good camp? Dan Moore Sr? Coach Mike?

[Steeldrama]

The loss of Munchak to Denver was a brutal loss.
BRUTAL.
The OL was a disaster on Sunday.
Wait’ll that group of poorly coached scrubs gets a load of a possessed Myles Garrett.

The lack of quality hires AND accountability with coaches on the Steelers is crazy bad under Tomlin.
Only the Pope has better job security than his guys as the saying goes.

Oh sure, his boy Peezy was let go, but who didn’t know that had to happen?

Yep nice job forcing Arians into retirement.

Way to make Jerry O the scapegoat for Devin freakin Bush among other draft failures.

Someone else mentioned Faulkner the RBs coach. Man, does that guy suck goat balls.

WTF has Karl Dunbar ever done besides ride Cam’s coat tails.

Terryl Austin gets a free pass?
I don't even want to know why because deep down I know why.
Dude SUCKS
Dick Lebeaus don’t walk through the door every day but damn at least attempt to hire a viable replacement not some Bengals and Lions reject.

Finally, I have no earthly idea what Canada ever did to merit an NFL OC gig
Dude was immediately shit-canned by Ed Orgeron of all people.

We ALL could go on and on and on and on.... about coaching issues alone

Here’s the root of this mind numbing albeit self therapeutic rant to which you all already know the answer:

Tomlin HAD to hire a Canada-TYPE of college reject.
Had to hire an Austin-TYPE of castoff.
Young, talented coaches want to one day be HEAD coaches.
Never happened in 17…17…years under Cool Shades.

I’ve had it with my beloved Steelers.
They lost me on Sunday.
Big Time.

WAKE THE FUCK UP ART!
Ya barely lucid mope!

[955876]

x 1,000

[fractalsteel]

I’ve had it with my beloved Steelers.
They lost me on Sunday.
Big Time.

WAKE THE FUCK UP ART!
Ya barely lucid mope!

Drama, The Deuce has been working so hard to garner an NFL game in Ireland for his Steelers.
Talk about priorities.

[Professor Half Wit]

The loss of Munchak to Denver was a brutal loss.
BRUTAL.
The OL was a disaster on Sunday.
Wait’ll that group of poorly coached scrubs gets a load of a possessed Myles Garrett.

The lack of quality hires AND accountability with coaches on the Steelers is crazy bad under Tomlin.
Only the Pope has better job security than his guys as the saying goes.

Oh sure, his boy Peezy was let go, but who didn’t know that had to happen?

Yep nice job forcing Arians into retirement.

Way to make Jerry O the scapegoat for Devin freakin Bush among other draft failures.

Someone else mentioned Faulkner the RBs coach. Man, does that guy suck goat balls.

WTF has Karl Dunbar ever done besides ride Cam’s coat tails.

Terryl Austin gets a free pass?
I don't even want to know why because deep down I know why.
Dude SUCKS
Dick Lebeaus don’t walk through the door every day but damn at least attempt to hire a viable replacement not some Bengals and Lions reject.

Finally, I have no earthly idea what Canada ever did to merit an NFL OC gig
Dude was immediately shit-canned by Ed Orgeron of all people.

We ALL could go on and on and on and on.... about coaching issues alone

Here’s the root of this mind numbing albeit self therapeutic rant to which you all already know the answer:

Tomlin HAD to hire a Canada-TYPE of college reject.
Had to hire an Austin-TYPE of castoff.
Young, talented coaches want to one day be HEAD coaches.
Never happened in 17…17…years under Cool Shades.

I’ve had it with my beloved Steelers.
They lost me on Sunday.
Big Time.

WAKE THE FUCK UP ART!
Ya barely lucid mope!

Drama, I'm probably the most football stupid poster on the board. What I have finally realized is that Tomlin and his preferred coordinators are not innovators. Neither Tomlin nor anyone this dope hires or promotes to coordinator innovates in any way whatsoever. There is no mystery here.

I mentioned elsewhere: we may have bitched about LeBeau at the end, but that dude innovated. What he did to the zone blitz enabled the Steelers D to straight destroy offenses (aside form Pats) for a damn long run.

What in the hell has Tomlin EVER innovated on?
What in the hell has any Tomlin coordinator hire EVER innovated on?

Nobody has to guess a damn thing when they play the Steelers.

I admit it's overreaction Thursday carrying over from overreaction Monday. Probably I'm wrong. But this is my perception.

Tomlin is one helluva of a motivator. Let's not pretend that does not matter. If he had the god sense to surround himself with a cabinet of innovators, I do believe we'd have something.

[Jobu]

Tomlin is one helluva of a motivator.

Is he though? I’m trying to think of a time when I thought…man, they look like they’re really ready and fired up to play.

[jeemie]

Tomlin is one helluva of a motivator.

Is he though? I’m trying to think of a time when I thought…man, they look like they’re really ready and fired up to play.

Wait until they are 4-8 and need to reel off five straight wins to keep NHALS alive.

Then you will see it.

[Professor Half Wit]

Tomlin is one helluva of a motivator.

Is he though? I’m trying to think of a time when I thought…man, they look like they’re really ready and fired up to play.

Yes, he is. His players will "run through a wall for him."

That's a very different issue from:
a) execution and preparedness to execute
b) game plan worth a damn

[Jobu]

Tomlin is one helluva of a motivator.

Is he though? I’m trying to think of a time when I thought…man, they look like they’re really ready and fired up to play.

Yes, he is. His players will "run through a wall for him."

That's a very different issue from:
a) execution and preparedness to execute
b) game plan worth a damn

Maybe I’m wrong, I’m not in the Steelers locker room, but I spent over 30 years working for our local high school football team led by a hall of fame head coach. I’d like to think I have a pretty good idea of what a motivated team and player looks like. I don’t see any of that from the Tomlin Steelers. But if the Pittsburgh sports media, and most importantly, Stephen A Smith says that Tomlin is a great motivator, I guess it’s under my pay grade to question their knowledge. My apologies.

[955876]

News today is that they are working Jones at RT…

[Steeldrama]

What in the hell has Tomlin EVER innovated on?
What in the hell has any Tomlin coordinator hire EVER innovated on?

You’re right about that Prof

From Twitterverse

The Steelers offense has now gone 36 STRAIGHT games under OC Matt Canada without gaining at least 400 yards of offense.

There have been 269 instances since 2021 where an offense has gained at least 400 yards in a game.

But again, ZERO by the Steelers during that span.

YOU SUCK, CANADA!!!! ( not the country. Fun times up there).

Fire this clown
Fire him NOW!

[stillthere]

I don't take anything that PFF puts out as anything other than entertainment. half the people doing grades don't really know what football is.

Moore fucking sucked. He was comically bad. If anything, PFF is being nice.

That may be true. Personally I have trouble believing that someone who has no idea of the play call or what the necessary adjustments were or if there was an audible etc is qualified to judge who did a good job or not on a football field. If you want to grade one on one like a preseason game then fine. They have no idea if he was where he was supposed to be when he was supposed to be there or if the players around him were not where they were supposed to be. The only reason it is talked about on NBC is because Collinsworth is the owner. If he had not bought the site it would be a fringe stats page. Maybe they are all knowing and correct in all of their thoughts/opinions but I am willing to bet they are not.

[stillthere]

I’ve had it with my beloved Steelers.
They lost me on Sunday.
Big Time.

WAKE THE FUCK UP ART!
Ya barely lucid mope!

Drama, The Deuce has been working so hard to garner an NFL game in Ireland for his Steelers.
Talk about priorities.

Add Mexico City to that wish list as well.

[alancac98]

One would think that an OT taken in the 1st round (moved up for to boot) would be a much better prospect than an OT taken in the 4th round. They started the 4th rounder Dan Moore his 1st year at LT, so why not start 1st rounder Jones at LT his first year? I know Jones is considered very raw, but still. I also know that there are plenty of 1st round busts. If Moore gets hammered, one would think you have to try Jones there to try and shore that side up (well at least I think so, but I know Tomlin is much smarter than me! )

[langer]

Can we get rid of this misguided notion that Coach Mike is some master motivator?

Evidence of that, there is none. If he was wouldn't the team be better?

Or is it that we see the outward signs, yelling, chest puffing, butt slapping, hugging, and all that other nonsense and think that's motivating. Combine that, social media campaigns and his incredible use of the English language and people get all excited thinking he isn't more than a televangelist.

If he was a master motivator they wouldn't have gotten beaten soundly by the Niners. Why does Pickett have such a hang-dog look all the time? He comes off the field looking down.

Say what you want about Cousins, but he was mentally in the game all night. Maybe he doesn't see his HC as a Joel Osteen type of manipulator.

Perhaps another thing the grizzled vet Ben did was team motivation. That makes sense. The media attacks on him to protect Mr Slogan, the true face of the franchise, also make sense in that context.

Seeing Ben get his nose broken then going back out to play would be much more motivating than a failed wide receiver and pablum spraying fake tough guy strutting around like he's the shit.

That's just me. We see what happened immediately after he left.

[Jobu]

Can we get rid of this misguided notion that Coach Mike is some master motivator?

Evidence of that, there is none. If he was wouldn't the team be better?

Or is it that we see the outward signs, yelling, chest puffing, butt slapping, hugging, and all that other nonsense and think that's motivating. Combine that, social media campaigns and his incredible use of the English language and people get all excited thinking he isn't more than a televangelist.

If he was a master motivator they wouldn't have gotten beaten soundly by the Niners. Why does Pickett have such a hang-dog look all the time? He comes off the field looking down.

Say what you want about Cousins, but he was mentally in the game all night. Maybe he doesn't see his HC as a Joel Osteen type of manipulator.

Perhaps another thing the grizzled vet Ben did was team motivation. That makes sense. The media attacks on him to protect Mr Slogan, the true face of the franchise, also make sense in that context.

Seeing Ben get his nose broken then going back out to play would be much more motivating than a failed wide receiver and pablum spraying fake tough guy strutting around like he's the shit.

That's just me. We see what happened immediately after he left.

^^^^^
This!

[langer]