7 second half drives on offense.... 0 points.

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Re: 7 second half drives on offense.... 0 points.

Post by RemoAZ » Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:46 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:32 pm
RemoAZ wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:47 am
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Claypool: "I just think we need more go balls. Like, damn, not enough go balls. We got playmakers. I haven't had a go ball all year. George needs more, (Diontae) needs more. I'm not saying that's on the playcalling, I'm just saying we need to try to find a way to scheme it up."
Someone accidentally added the word “go” into Claypool’s quote.
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Post by Stosh-67 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:47 pm

we area still un prepared to call plays..........

second to last drive, down 16-10.

we pick up 5 yards on pass to Dionte, illegal contact penalty gives the Steelers first down.
2nd & 6 at PIT 22
(7:16 - 4th) (Shotgun) K.Pickett pass short middle to D.Johnson to PIT 27 for 5 yards (D.Riley). PENALTY on MIA-N.Igbinoghene, Illegal Contact, 5 yards, enforced at PIT 22 - No Play.

(6:47 - 4th) Timeout #1 by PIT at 06:47.
ONE.
the penalty stops the clock, so there should be plenty of time, extra time in fact, to come up with a new first down play call.
TWO
that was only the second play of the drive, no one should be gassed
THREE
the extra time not only to get the play in, but to get the correct personnel on the field.

So with the clock stopped............
WE BURN A TIME OUT.

Could have used that time out on that last drive with less than a minute left.

The incompetence of this staff knows no bounds.
"Tomlin has never appreciated the role of scheme and play call in the ability for player's to execute" Kodiak.
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Post by Stosh-67 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:49 pm

every game it happens.
we burn time outs..........
we had 10, probably 9 men on the field with the Gunnar fumble against ....PATS?
"Tomlin has never appreciated the role of scheme and play call in the ability for player's to execute" Kodiak.
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Post by Orangesteel » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:09 pm

Stosh-67 wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:47 pm
we area still un prepared to call plays..........

second to last drive, down 16-10.

we pick up 5 yards on pass to Dionte, illegal contact penalty gives the Steelers first down.
2nd & 6 at PIT 22
(7:16 - 4th) (Shotgun) K.Pickett pass short middle to D.Johnson to PIT 27 for 5 yards (D.Riley). PENALTY on MIA-N.Igbinoghene, Illegal Contact, 5 yards, enforced at PIT 22 - No Play.

(6:47 - 4th) Timeout #1 by PIT at 06:47.
ONE.
the penalty stops the clock, so there should be plenty of time, extra time in fact, to come up with a new first down play call.
TWO
that was only the second play of the drive, no one should be gassed
THREE
the extra time not only to get the play in, but to get the correct personnel on the field.

So with the clock stopped............
WE BURN A TIME OUT.

Could have used that time out on that last drive with less than a minute left.

The incompetence of this staff knows no bounds.
Mike Tomlin & Co. attention to detail.
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Post by Valentino_Blake » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:06 pm

Just to poke another hole in the making excuses for Najee side of things...I'll admit that my method of offensive line evaluation is "listen to what people smarter than me have to say about it", but from what I understand most analytic sites have us ranked more towards the middle of the pack this year than league worst.

I'm not saying they've been particularly good, but let's not pretend like he's being met in the backfield on every hand-off either. Warren's averaged a yard and a half more per carry behind the same O-line (which I know is easier to do in limited spots, but still...)

We knew we weren't getting a home-run hitter when we drafted the guy, but the complete lack of NFL burst/breakaway speed is kind of a fuckin' bummer. Kenneth Walker has 3 30+ yard runs in the last three games, Najee has one carry over 25 yards in his NFL career. I just don't know what the upside is with a guy like him, but it's something short of game-changing.

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Post by steelmann58 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:01 pm

Oc to blame

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Post by 955876 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:09 pm

Valentino_Blake wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:06 pm
Just to poke another hole in the making excuses for Najee side of things...I'll admit that my method of offensive line evaluation is "listen to what people smarter than me have to say about it", but from what I understand most analytic sites have us ranked more towards the middle of the pack this year than league worst.

I'm not saying they've been particularly good, but let's not pretend like he's being met in the backfield on every hand-off either. Warren's averaged a yard and a half more per carry behind the same O-line (which I know is easier to do in limited spots, but still...)

We knew we weren't getting a home-run hitter when we drafted the guy, but the complete lack of NFL burst/breakaway speed is kind of a fuckin' bummer. Kenneth Walker has 3 30+ yard runs in the last three games, Najee has one carry over 25 yards in his NFL career. I just don't know what the upside is with a guy like him, but it's something short of game-changing.
Najee is a slightly better version of Benny Snail. And we blew a 1st rounder on this guy.

Dumb team.

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Post by langer » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:57 am

I just don't know what the upside is with a guy like him, but it's something short of game-changing.
“Right now, a little side project that I’m on is I’m fostering the growth and development of leadership,” Tomlin said Tuesday on the Pivot Podcast. “I’m bridging the transitional leadership relationship between Cam Heyward and Najee. Like, Najee is a leader. He was a born leader. He’s got good football morals. He sees the game the way we see the game.”
Three months later....
“He missed some time in team development and that may be a component of him finding or not finding rhythm,” Tomlin said on Tuesday, according to Pro Football Talk. “Probably it’s just reflective of kind of where we are. It’s tough to analyze individual components when things unfolded the way that they unfolded from a collective perspective.”
"I'm institutionalized, man," he joked. "I gotta have it. I just love the challenges week in and week out that this job provides: the growth in it, the collective growth, the individual growth."

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Post by Havoc » Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:20 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:38 am
This game highlighted more of why they suck. They’re so predictable it’s laughable. The U shaped offense is real. Running into a stacked box on first down is their philosophy which will not change.

They ran Najee between the tackles 12 times on first down.
Pickett went 4-10 with 3 picks on passes that traveled 10+ yards in the air, largely because he only threw deep when forced to in predictable situations.
They threw 0 passes to the middle of the field in the first half. (How is that even possible at the NFL level)
They went 4-14 on 3rd down conversions

For the season they are:
29th in yards per game
31st in points per game
32nd in yards per play
30th in yards per point
31st in offensive TDs per game
28th in yards per rush attempt
31st in yards per pass attempt
29th in yards per completion
31st in team passer rating
31st in passing TDs
31st in 40+ yard passing plays
32nd in 20+ yard rush8ng plays
We are a dumb team on offense which makes us a dumb team at overall strategy. Have been for years. Ben to AB covered it up for the non discerning.

Last week on local sports radio here in DFW, I listened to the weekly Mike McCarthy interview. Mike talked about "complimentary football". After he was finished explaining what he meant by it, one of the hosts stated, "So you are saying you want to score less points". Of course Mike denied that, but that is exactly what he said. These dinosaur coaches coach in a tunnel and can't see the forest.

Having said that...

Mike McCarthy took a giant shit on Mike Tomlin in XLV. The vehement stance by some in the past that Tomlin is a better coach than McCarthy is laughable. I'm not saying McCarthy is better. They are very much alike. McCarthy was better in XLV though and it wasn't close.

For the past 2 years I have been saying, I could see us becoming the Dallas Cowboys. I do think we are there, some haven't realized that yet and half the fan base doesn't care. I'm open to getting surprised.
Throw. The. Football. On. First. Down.

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Post by Steel Bingo » Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:34 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:05 pm

Here are stats of every RB in the NFL up to 2018 for the season after they had 300 touches at age 24. (SPOILER: It's not pretty.) Najee's 24 now, but had 381 (!) touches last year.
https://steelersdepot.com/2017/07/stats ... ince-2000/
Najee is built more like a brick than the majority of those guys. Physically he profiles far more comparably to Deuce McAllister, Ricky Williams, Adrian Peterson, Matt Forte and Edgerrin James, than he would to the other backs.

And those 5 backs saw the majority of the quality follow-up seasons, so there's hope for Harris yet. The improving play of the OL is going to help. And Warren being able to spell him some should help also, provided the rook can keep hanging onto the ball.

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