Didn’t See This Posted...Garrett Doubles Down on N-Word Accusation

[jebrick]

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2 ... ort-tomlin

Nice follow-up by BtSC

Following Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin‘s appearance on First Take Monday morning, I ran a story at Behind The Steel Curtain which highlighted Coach Tomlin’s comments. Although the majority of what Coach Tomlin had to say was in defense of quarterback Mason Rudolph, he was also critical of how ESPN framed the narrative on their show Outside The Lines.

As the author of the article, I was personally contacted by a representative at ESPN who wanted to offer a rebuttal to Coach Tomlin‘s statement and wished to provide our readers context. The statement by Coach Tomlin in which ESPN is disputing is when Coach Tomlin stated, “It was a thorough investigation done by us and the National Football League. I don’t think it was represented during that piece.” Tomlin when on to state, “Nobody on that field as a member of the Cleveland Browns or Pittsburgh Steelers corroborated what was said by Myles Garrett. That was founded by us and the National Football League. At no point during that piece this weekend that was stated.”

The representative from ESPN offered to send me the link to the Outside The Lines episode for my viewing purposes. In reviewing the episode, I can understand where ESPN is coming from. Unfortunately, I believe they are not completely correct in their assessment.

Mike Tomlin’s problem with ESPN not mentioning the results of the investigation is the fact ESPN never mentioned there was an investigation. Coach Tomlin said, “It was not represented during that piece,” which is a factual statement. Not only did ESPN not even begin to mention the depth of the investigation of the NFL which included player interviews, officiating crew interviews, and reviewing all audio and video sources available, they never even mentioned that an investigation took place. Yes, they said the NFL found nothing. But why not mention the extent to which the NFL went to in order to find something? Why did they specifically leave out that there was an investigation? Instead, they glossed over it so easily it could be implied the NFL wasn’t truly looking to find anything.

This is exactly what Coach Tomlin took exception to. Rather than say there was a thorough investigation and lay out how the evidence lies completely in Mason Rudolph’s court, they just easily brushed off that there wasn’t any evidence found with no explanation. By not outlining the depth to which the NFL and the Steelers sought out the evidence, the other side of the story was given little to no credibility during the piece. Instead, ESPN chose to focus on only one side of a story with no evidence to support it, ultimately seeking “views” and “clicks” instead of truth.

[955876]

Props to Tomlin for publicly speaking out against this fabricated lie and those in the media who are assisting in perpetrating it.

He might not know when to call a time out or throw a challenge flag but as a man, he has my respect.

[the-other-burg]

Garret's a race-baiting cocksucker, that's probably been told that the rewards outweigh the risks when making claims like this - founded or not. Such an accusation will automatically cast a shadow on someone's reputation, and it a scumbag move.

[El Kabong]

And when it isn’t happening to you, just hatch a grand scheme making it up so that you can become a sympathetic victim.

One would think with all this rampant racism people like Jussie Smollet wouldn’t have to hatch these fabricated schemes so they too could be a poor victim.

A man walked into the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh with the specific purpose to kill Jews.

A man drove West the entire way across Texas to El Paso with the specific purpose to kill Hispanics.

Your mileage may vary, but I think we might have a racism problem here.

How about the people that have gone into schools and shot kids? Shot people in a movie theater? Shot people at a country music concert? I think we have a problem with wacko people, many who are made worse by prescription and non-prescription drugs. Mental health is either getting worse in this country or it's just made more public because of social media.

Different whackos have different motivations. Doesn't mean racism isn't a factor here.

[Flanker]

First of all I never said he did say it I suggested it was possible given Rudolph's political leanings. In the excited stats of america there are only 2 choices (unfortunate) and I know which side harbors all the racists, that is indisputable.

Stinger, at the risk of being given a vacation by B2B, I'm going to relay an anecdote from personal experience. In 2008, I knocked on doors for Obama in Pittsburgh. Get out the vote action. The doors I knocked on belonged to Democratic Party members. I cannot begin to tell you the filthy shit spewed at me by at-that-time Democratic Party voters in Bloomfield. White working class dudes saying unreal racist stuff. (Maybe I got yelled at by Lynch! ) Now, maybe these folks switched and became Republicans in 2008. But this was 8 years prior to Trump. EIGHT. Meanwhile, having grown up in Texas, I know many Republicans there that would have been embarrassed and disgusted to hear what I heard. Long story short, having a D next your name or having historically voted as such sure does not mean you are not a racist piece of shit.

So, let's slow the roll on the gross generalizations. Apologize for breaking the rules, B2B, but I thought it worth posting.

Not sure how I broke the rules, the OP is about a guy accusing someone of calling them the N word. How do you debate that without getting into these types of discussions. I will take your other comments with a grain of salt. I understand Texas is evolving however slowly so thats a good thing.

Better late than never

Jesus Christ... you are an incredibly whiny person.

[stinger8]

Stinger, at the risk of being given a vacation by B2B, I'm going to relay an anecdote from personal experience. In 2008, I knocked on doors for Obama in Pittsburgh. Get out the vote action. The doors I knocked on belonged to Democratic Party members. I cannot begin to tell you the filthy shit spewed at me by at-that-time Democratic Party voters in Bloomfield. White working class dudes saying unreal racist stuff. (Maybe I got yelled at by Lynch! ) Now, maybe these folks switched and became Republicans in 2008. But this was 8 years prior to Trump. EIGHT. Meanwhile, having grown up in Texas, I know many Republicans there that would have been embarrassed and disgusted to hear what I heard. Long story short, having a D next your name or having historically voted as such sure does not mean you are not a racist piece of shit.

So, let's slow the roll on the gross generalizations. Apologize for breaking the rules, B2B, but I thought it worth posting.

Not sure how I broke the rules, the OP is about a guy accusing someone of calling them the N word. How do you debate that without getting into these types of discussions. I will take your other comments with a grain of salt. I understand Texas is evolving however slowly so thats a good thing.

Better late than never

Jesus Christ... you are an incredibly whiny person.

Whiny?? How?? The discussion is centered around a racist allegation (true or not no one knows for sure). I made my point, which, I stand behind that if it did happen Rudolph is a candidate given his political affiliations. Dont like it I dont give a fuck, so stop whining.

[R_S]

Stinger claims to be Canadian. Kinda a weird inferiority complex he's got going on. Why else would anyone give such a shit about another countries social issues?

[955876]

Whiny?? How?? The discussion is centered around a racist allegation (true or not no one knows for sure). I made my point, which, I stand behind that if it did happen Rudolph is a candidate given his political affiliations. Dont like it I dont give a fuck, so stop whining.

Nobody knows for sure?? So you buy that Mason softly whispered this in his ear? These two men weren’t sharing a hotel room. They were standing on a field amongst many other people. Some of those people miked up. Many of them also people of color. You actually believe Pouncey would go to bat for his back-up QB he has no real history with over his own race? Really?

Ask yourself this. IF he did say it, why in the world didn’t Garret immediately say so? Think about it. Think about a real fight that just got broken up.

In that moment you start the finger pointing. In that moment you immediately say that mofo called me this. That bastard said this. It’s instinct and human nature.

But no, you want to be led down the path that Garrett was called something so heinous he had no other choice but to try to bash his “offender” in the skull yet the moments after the altercation is broken up he’s immediately so level headed as to decide to not mention any of it? Really Stinger? You really buy that?

And then proceeds not to mention it post game. Then proceeds not to mention it to anyone else in his locker room or to the coaches or people that sign his paychecks?

Really??

The only thing worse than a scumbag that falsely plays the race card are the even bigger scumbags in the “media” that perpetrate it and the mental midget idiots that believe it.

I’ve been a huge critic of Mike Tomlin. But what he did by standing up against this bullshit earned him a great deal of respect from me. So much so that I’ve wiped his slate clean and will no longer bash him for past mistakes.

But you go on and keep believing in fairy tales.

[jebrick]

Ask yourself this. IF he did say it, why in the world didn’t Garret immediately say so? Think about it. Think about a real fight that just got broken up.

In that moment you start the finger pointing. In that moment you immediately say that mofo called me this. That bastard said this. It’s instinct and human nature.


And then proceeds not to mention it post game. Then proceeds not to mention it to anyone else in his locker room or to the coaches or people that sign his paychecks?

^^THIS^^ This is why it is a load of crap that BSPN treated like clickbait. There is just no way that someone accused of trying to bash in the skull of someone else in a fight would fail to mention that the other guy called me a name and it caused me to lose control.

[stinger8]

Whiny?? How?? The discussion is centered around a racist allegation (true or not no one knows for sure). I made my point, which, I stand behind that if it did happen Rudolph is a candidate given his political affiliations. Dont like it I dont give a fuck, so stop whining.

Nobody knows for sure?? So you buy that Mason softly whispered this in his ear? These two men weren’t sharing a hotel room. They were standing on a field amongst many other people. Some of those people miked up. Many of them also people of color. You actually believe Pouncey would go to bat for his back-up QB he has no real history with over his own race? Really?

Ask yourself this. IF he did say it, why in the world didn’t Garret immediately say so? Think about it. Think about a real fight that just got broken up.

In that moment you start the finger pointing. In that moment you immediately say that mofo called me this. That bastard said this. It’s instinct and human nature.

But no, you want to be led down the path that Garrett was called something so heinous he had no other choice but to try to bash his “offender” in the skull yet the moments after the altercation is broken up he’s immediately so level headed as to decide to not mention any of it? Really Stinger? You really buy that?

And then proceeds not to mention it post game. Then proceeds not to mention it to anyone else in his locker room or to the coaches or people that sign his paychecks?

Really??

The only thing worse than a scumbag that falsely plays the race card are the even bigger scumbags in the “media” that perpetrate it and the mental midget idiots that believe it.

I’ve been a huge critic of Mike Tomlin. But what he did by standing up against this bullshit earned him a great deal of respect from me. So much so that I’ve wiped his slate clean and will no longer bash him for past mistakes.

But you go on and keep believing in fairy tales.

If you took the time to read my reply I said several times no one knows for sure including me......and YOU. IF it did happen it happened when Garrett was on top of Rudolph and Rudolph was trying to take his helmet off and they were essentially face to face. I believe it was Villanueva who was trying, unsuccessfully to block Garrett he was behind Garret on his feet, 70,000 people screaming its unlikely he would have heard anything. If he did hear something would he rat out his QB? Fact is we will probably never know for sure one way or the other.

[Kodiak]

Fact is we will probably never know for sure one way or the other.

Except if Rudolph voted for Hillary you'd be, like, 1000% sure he didn't say it?

[stinger8]

Stinger claims to be Canadian. Kinda a weird inferiority complex he's got going on. Why else would anyone give such a shit about another countries social issues?

Inferiority complex WTF?? Please look up the metrics on living standards, quality of life etc. Canada was just voted the 3rd most livable country in the world way ahead of the excited states. I think I have a superiority complex. Yes I am a proud Canadian where racism essentially does not exist (yes we have a few knuckle draggers like on this site but they stay under rocks where they belong). I only give a shit because I care about other people, you clearly don't. In a previous post I told you about hearing people call black guys "shines" in Pittsburgh out loud and proud which absolutely disgusted me. The excited states of america is like no other developed country in the world in this regard, absolutely odious. I would never ever consider living in the USA.

And before you say it NO I dont go the states, even though I live 20 miles from the border. I do however take 2 trips a year to Europe which is sublime (and safe).

Maybe if your country evolved like the rest of the developed world I might visit and spend some cash. So just trying to help you out

[stinger8]

Fact is we will probably never know for sure one way or the other.

Except if Rudolph voted for Hillary you'd be, like, 1000% sure he didn't say it?

Well if he voted for Hillary I would know he is absolutely NOT a racist. Again for the umpteenth time I never said he did in fact say it just that if there was someone who would say it he would be a candidate. Not all right wingers are racists, BUT all racists are right wingers.

Dude go watch some tapes from the magat rallys. Listen to the interviews from the people lined up outside. To be honest I find them very entertaining, knowing that there are people that angry, that stupid, walking around blows my mind. In Canada maybe 2% of our population are that ridiculous. Good luck

[Kodiak]

Not all right wingers are racists, BUT all racists are right wingers.

You might find this interesting and enlightening. You really need to be a lot less of a sucker blindly swallowing political propaganda. Because I really hope you're not as much of an ignorant bigot as you appear to be.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ar ... democrats/


That, of course, didn't even consider this inconvenient little nugget:
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public ... _hispanics
"Thirty-one percent of African-Americans said most blacks are racist, according to the polling organization, while only 24 percent of those respondents said most whites are racist."

[Jobu]

Not all right wingers are racists, BUT all racists are right wingers.

Oh dear God!

[K_C_]

Remember all those times at Hillary rallies, or Bernie Rallies or Mayor Pete Rallies or Biden Rallies, etc. where there were choruses of "SEND HER BACK" chanted?

Me neither.

[Professor Half Wit]

Not all right wingers are racists, BUT all racists are right wingers.

Oh dear God!

I know. B2B, make it stop!

[955876]

And if you read my post you’d have seen the part about normal human nature.

Sure Mason could have said it in his ear while they were on ground face to face.

But again, why would Garret not immediately call it out after it happened? After he bashed Mason in the head why wasn’t he himself screaming this mofo just called me the N word?

Why wasn’t he ranting about it in the locker room after the game?

Why didn’t he tell his coach?

Why didn’t he bring it up to any of the front office people who very likely had chat with him about the incident?

Why did he apologize to Mason with again no mention of the name calling???

So we are to believe he was so enraged by this alleged name calling he couldn’t control his emotions enough to refrain from smashing Mason in the head but then was cool as a cucumber after and thought it better to leave the name calling unmentioned?

Didn’t bring it up till a private deposition? And then only after it gets leaked out?

Mkay.

Mike Tomlin spoke to several within the Browns organization. None of them collaborated Garret. Nobody on the field heard it.

Are we to believe Tomlin, a black man, would actually tolerate someone on his team spewing such garbage? He’d go to bat for a back-up QB (and not even a very good one) and risk fracturing his own lockeroom?

You don’t think the men of color that play for the Steelers would take issue with their QB saying such a thing? Pouncey going to block for an openly racist QB?

Mmmmkaaay

There are four realities here.

1) Garrett is a fucking liar.
2) ESPN is garbage.
3) Tomlin showed some real character & leadership.
4) you are no better than Garrett and the creeps on ESPN with your drivel attempting to create a link between what you assume is Mason’s political leanings and racism.

Have you ever spent any time in the Mexican community? It’s not hard to find one that is both liberal AND racist toward African Americans. While certainly not all are, neither are all white conservatives.

[955876]

To be honest I find them very entertaining, knowing that there are people that angry, that stupid, walking around blows my mind.

I guess you’ve never seen the idiots that populate campuses such as UC Berkeley.

[Old School]

Not all right wingers are racists, BUT all racists are right wingers.

Oh dear God!

I know. B2B, make it stop!

This board is being trolled and compromised; although the topic may be the despicable promotion and furtherance of identity politics the above post is either an intentional troll or the display of ignorance on the same level as the original violator.

The poster should be banned, if reinstated submit to an intelligence test with the results publically circulated, notarized by his guardian. If the score is below 85, a distinct possibility, the ban remains permanent unless the photos of the poster cleaning hotel toilets is posted. Please wear gloves.

[stinger8]

Oh dear God!

I know. B2B, make it stop!

This board is being trolled and compromised; although the topic may be the despicable promotion and furtherance of identity politics the above post is either an intentional troll or the display of ignorance on the same level as the original violator.

The poster should be banned, if reinstated submit to an intelligence test with the results publically circulated, notarized by his guardian. If the score is below 85, a distinct possibility, the ban remains permanent unless the photos of the poster cleaning hotel toilets is posted. Please wear gloves.

It wont happen but old school I would gladly take an IQ test against you. I have 2 degrees (under grad and grad) how about you? Stop whining you sound like a snowflake

B2 B make it stop wah wah wah

[955876]

Two degrees huh?? Lemme guess, drama and liberal arts??

Your post was funny.

Are you next going to challenge Old School to an arm wrestle?

Tell him your daddy can beat up his daddy??

Or your favorite, my country is better than your country.

[COR-TEN]

The amount of stupid in this thread is legendary. Generalizations, stereotypes, and strawmen are beyond belief.

[Professor Half Wit]

I have 2 degrees (under grad and grad) how about you?

BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

<<pauses, wipes tears, reads post again>>

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[BethlehemSteel]

Get this pole smoking asshole Stinger the fuck out of here b2b

An ‘Arrogant prick’ is being kind

Rules violations on every post practically

I believe every minute he’s spent here over the years he was intent on causing discord

[Professor Half Wit]

The amount of stupid in this thread is legendary. Generalizations, stereotypes, and strawmen are beyond belief.

Two degrees, though. That's impressive.

[stinger8]

The amount of stupid in this thread is legendary. Generalizations, stereotypes, and strawmen are beyond belief.

Two degrees, though. That's impressive.

Thanks I do appreciate your compliment. I know if they gave degrees in tobacco chewin and squirrel huntin you would have your doctorate.

[955876]

I could be wrong but I’d be willing to bet (a lot of $$$) that Half Wit is one of the last people here that would be a tobacky chewin squirrel hunter.

[stinger8]

Get this pole smoking asshole Stinger the fuck out of here b2b

An ‘Arrogant prick’ is being kind

Rules violations on every post practically

I believe every minute he’s spent here over the years he was intent on causing discord

Mr Steel why you so sensitive? Snowflakey? Feelings hurt?? Cant debate?? Am I makin you feel all racismy?? Need mommy to come to your rescue?? Were you a rat in school too?? Never "smoked a pole" in my life, however I guess the way erudite individuals like you make yourself feel better is by accusing someone else of being a gay, like that is an insult. Do you have the mental acuity to understand that your comment is every bit as offensive as someone accusing you of using the N word when you did not? Dude you are a mental midget.

[stinger8]

I could be wrong but I’d be willing to bet (a lot of $$$) that Half Wit is one of the last people here that would be a tobacky chewin squirrel hunter.

Betting tip, never bet "a lot of money" if you could be wrong kinda rudimentary wagering logic.