I dont think this team is that bad......
- SteelerDayTrader
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I dont think this team is that bad......
I would move Pouncey to LG and draft Cesar Ruiz at Center.
Draft some electricity at WR
Re-sign DuPree and Hargrave
I think just those 3 moves and a little luck avoiding key injuries and we are back in business
I think its important not to overreact this year by trying to address every slight issue.
I do want 2 WRs drafted who can make plays. And a legit rookie Center that can start
Draft some electricity at WR
Re-sign DuPree and Hargrave
I think just those 3 moves and a little luck avoiding key injuries and we are back in business
I think its important not to overreact this year by trying to address every slight issue.
I do want 2 WRs drafted who can make plays. And a legit rookie Center that can start
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Competent QB play would go a long way to fixing what ails us.
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SteelPowerful
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8-8 with poor QB play is not bad at all.
They had competent QB play in 2018...won one more game than this season, with the same ultimate result...no post season.
This team needs a head coach change if for no other reason than they need a change.
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Exactly. The message is as stale as a crouton.
But nothing will change. Ownership is clueless and they get too wrapped up in their own bullshit.
“Thoughts are a waste of time for me.” - Michael Pettaway Tomlin
I think a consistent running game would go a long way to fixing what ails this offense. Teams can win with a solid running game and average QB play but you need excellent QB play to win without a running game.
If Ben is back next year, I think the offense still struggles somewhat without a solid running game. I don't think Conner is the guy anymore. He is just too injury prone. Samuels and Snell have shown some talent but they are not consistent enough. Although Snell is a rookie and I thought he played well towards the end of the season.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Steelers FO goes after a FA running back in the offseason. Finding another castaway like they found Bettis years ago would be awesome but unlikely.
If Ben is back next year, I think the offense still struggles somewhat without a solid running game. I don't think Conner is the guy anymore. He is just too injury prone. Samuels and Snell have shown some talent but they are not consistent enough. Although Snell is a rookie and I thought he played well towards the end of the season.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Steelers FO goes after a FA running back in the offseason. Finding another castaway like they found Bettis years ago would be awesome but unlikely.
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If you are not in the locker room, there is no way for you to know if the message is stale.
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Orangesteel
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Nor is there a way for you to know it’s not.SteelPowerful wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:56 amIf you are not in the locker room, there is no way for you to know if the message is stale.
3 playoff wins in 10 years.
Ya, message is crisp, fresh and it looks like it get the people going.
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SteelPowerful
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The QB is also part if that. Ben is also the reason for that. He has incredible physical talent, but as a leader, he is severely lacking.
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I think this is a very good team once their engine and wheels are back.
NHALS secured. Check.
In the playoffs. Check
AFCN Champions. Check
Beat the Texans. In progress
Here We Go Steelers
In the playoffs. Check
AFCN Champions. Check
Beat the Texans. In progress
Here We Go Steelers
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I think I agree with that, but you have to admit that Tomlin’s luster has worn immensely.SteelPowerful wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:59 amThe QB is also part if that. Ben is also the reason for that. He has incredible physical talent, but as a leader, he is severely lacking.
Did that look like a team out there that was playing like they had a shot at the playoffs if they took care of business?
I saw the Ravens 2nd and 3rd stringers take it to the Steelers, and the Steelers getting bossed around. That is not a good sign in a “must win” game.
“Thoughts are a waste of time for me.” - Michael Pettaway Tomlin
As would competent coaching....
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Ben comes back, Tomlin doesn't = CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
Ben comes back, Tomlin doesn't = CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
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the ravens ran though our defense at will today.
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I guess what I am saying is, did the Steelers coaches think that game plan we just saw would lead to us winning the game? How about in the Jets game?
Are the Steelers coaches aware that you have to score more points than the other team to win the game? I’m seriously wondering that.
Are the Steelers coaches aware that you have to score more points than the other team to win the game? I’m seriously wondering that.
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Randy play calling just was terrible not only down the stretch but most of the season.
They have to find a WR coach and maybe upgrade at OL Coach because SS and Klemm were terrible
They have to find a WR coach and maybe upgrade at OL Coach because SS and Klemm were terrible
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You will rarely win when your QB has to throw up hill first, to get it over the linemen and then hope it comes down quickly enough to hit the moving target.
That is why this fuck doesn’t throw over the middle. If he throws a frozen rope it will either get batted down or sail because it was in the upslope too long.
For the OP...agree. Just steady the ship.
New punter. Competition at RB and WR. Draft more TEs.
Superbowl or bust next year.
Might have to draft to counter LaMarr. Might need another Casey Hampton to wreck their running game. We do need to move a chess piece to counter the Ravens. Not winning the SB without winning the North in all likelihood.
That is why this fuck doesn’t throw over the middle. If he throws a frozen rope it will either get batted down or sail because it was in the upslope too long.
For the OP...agree. Just steady the ship.
New punter. Competition at RB and WR. Draft more TEs.
Superbowl or bust next year.
Might have to draft to counter LaMarr. Might need another Casey Hampton to wreck their running game. We do need to move a chess piece to counter the Ravens. Not winning the SB without winning the North in all likelihood.
New punter
That stiff Berry has a job as long as Jibbs does.
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Overall my gut tells me Berry did pretty well this year.
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I think so too but he could use some coaching in the special circumstances i.e. fake punts, angling the ball out of bounds and when to fall on the ball when things go wrong.SteelerDayTrader wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:33 amOverall my gut tells me Berry did pretty well this year.
NHALS secured. Check.
In the playoffs. Check
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In the playoffs. Check
AFCN Champions. Check
Beat the Texans. In progress
Here We Go Steelers
Overall he can squeak out mediocre stats.SteelerDayTrader wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:33 amOverall my gut tells me Berry did pretty well this year.
That’s not his problem. His problem are the shanks and fumbles he likes to display at inopportune times.
Always good for a 22 yarder when you need it least.
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40.9 net average for 26th in the league. They need to get a new punter.Texas Black & Gold wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:39 amI think so too but he could use some coaching in the special circumstances i.e. fake punts, angling the ball out of bounds and when to fall on the ball when things go wrong.SteelerDayTrader wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:33 amOverall my gut tells me Berry did pretty well this year.
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I agree with your point about having a consistent running game. I've always believed that good teams do the following 4 things:cyberlaz wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:55 amI think a consistent running game would go a long way to fixing what ails this offense. Teams can win with a solid running game and average QB play but you need excellent QB play to win without a running game.
If Ben is back next year, I think the offense still struggles somewhat without a solid running game. I don't think Conner is the guy anymore. He is just too injury prone. Samuels and Snell have shown some talent but they are not consistent enough. Although Snell is a rookie and I thought he played well towards the end of the season.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Steelers FO goes after a FA running back in the offseason. Finding another castaway like they found Bettis years ago would be awesome but unlikely.
- run the ball well
- stop the run
- protect your QB
- get after the other team's QB
I don't believe we run the ball well. We're just OK at stopping the run and we're just OK at protecting the QB. We do a good job of getting after the other team's QB.
He’s been on the team for FIVE years.Texas Black & Gold wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:39 amI think so too but he could use some coaching in the special circumstances i.e. fake punts, angling the ball out of bounds and when to fall on the ball when things go wrong.SteelerDayTrader wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:33 amOverall my gut tells me Berry did pretty well this year.
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Length of time on the team doesn't mean he has been coached. Seems like he just goes out there without a strategy at times.955876 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:48 amHe’s been on the team for FIVE years.Texas Black & Gold wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:39 amI think so too but he could use some coaching in the special circumstances i.e. fake punts, angling the ball out of bounds and when to fall on the ball when things go wrong.SteelerDayTrader wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:33 amOverall my gut tells me Berry did pretty well this year.
NHALS secured. Check.
In the playoffs. Check
AFCN Champions. Check
Beat the Texans. In progress
Here We Go Steelers
In the playoffs. Check
AFCN Champions. Check
Beat the Texans. In progress
Here We Go Steelers
So you are suggesting that a guy that’s been on the team for 5 years hasn’t been coached?Texas Black & Gold wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:53 amLength of time on the team doesn't mean he has been coached. Seems like he just goes out there without a strategy at times.955876 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:48 amHe’s been on the team for FIVE years.Texas Black & Gold wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:39 am
I think so too but he could use some coaching in the special circumstances i.e. fake punts, angling the ball out of bounds and when to fall on the ball when things go wrong.
Interesting...
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Just some speculative opinionated ramblings from a Steelers fan....SteelerDayTrader wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:37 amI would move Pouncey to LG and draft Cesar Ruiz at Center.
Draft some electricity at WR
Re-sign DuPree and Hargrave
I think just those 3 moves and a little luck avoiding key injuries and we are back in business
I think its important not to overreact this year by trying to address every slight issue.
I do want 2 WRs drafted who can make plays. And a legit rookie Center that can start
Moving on from Pouncey is the best bet. Moving Pouncey to LG does nothing to improve this OLine. Pouncey doesn't have the sand in the trunks to play guard...Pouncey has slowed considerably and is on (IMHO) his last round up in Pittsburgh.
WR isn't the most pressing issue. WR with a decent QB and game plan would be intimidating and dangerous as WR corps stands now...
Re-signing both (Dupree/Hargrave) are a long shot but then so was going 8-8 with Ben out for the season...
TE, Center and Tackle are this offenses biggest issue... Perhaps Rudolph turns into a decent back up QB so I think with that in mind the Steelers keep dabbling in the mid rounds for a competitor with talent to compete for said back up role.
Running back is another head scratcher... Ajay was released and I never heard word about him resurfacing... Perhaps he could bring something to the corps along with that vet resume...
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Well how else can it be explained about his indecisiveness? All imagined scenarios should be coached and practiced weekly.Jobu wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:56 amSo you are suggesting that a guy that’s been on the team for 5 years hasn’t been coached?Texas Black & Gold wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:53 amLength of time on the team doesn't mean he has been coached. Seems like he just goes out there without a strategy at times.
Interesting...
NHALS secured. Check.
In the playoffs. Check
AFCN Champions. Check
Beat the Texans. In progress
Here We Go Steelers
In the playoffs. Check
AFCN Champions. Check
Beat the Texans. In progress
Here We Go Steelers
I think an accumulation of injuries, including a serious one to his knee, have left Ajayi pretty much washed up.
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Absolutely...but again, do you believe that isn’t the case?Texas Black & Gold wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:02 amWell how else can it be explained about his indecisiveness? All imagined scenarios should be coached and practiced weekly.Jobu wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:56 amSo you are suggesting that a guy that’s been on the team for 5 years hasn’t been coached?Texas Black & Gold wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:53 am
Length of time on the team doesn't mean he has been coached. Seems like he just goes out there without a strategy at times.
Interesting...
