If Mason a no go does Lynch get reps?

[SteelPowerful]

I'm not sure he's worse.

If the "jury is out" on Mason, then why are you convinced Duck sucks? He put up similar numbers over a similar number of games. Their play has been damn near identical.

Do you know the meaning of exceptional situational factors? Let someone knock you out cold and see how you are afterwards.

I explained why I think Duck sucked eons ago. I know that many people with an IQ below average need things explained to them several times, but I am not doing it.

[K_C_]

Folks bitched about Mason's lack of arm strength.

After watching Duck, who is one tough motherfucker, Mason looks like John Elway.

[alancac98]

Duck and Mason have combined for 17 interceptions this year. That almost sounds made up considering each has only played a handful of games.

Both suck balls. Period. Great job by the brain trust evaluating our backup QB situation. These two are fucking terrible.

Terry Bradshaw threw 24 his 1st year playing, just sayin! Also got to remember that 11 of those were in 3 games. I’m sorry, but I don’t put much blame on the QB’s. I said it before and I’ll keep saying it. - this is on both Tomlin and Fitchner (mostly Fitchner). Fitchner is way over his head and totally sucks! If he wasn’t Ben’s buddy, he would have never been promoted. Fix the OC, fix the offense.

[Orangesteel]

Also - lest you forget that in the better part of this decade, we have wasted 3 mid-tier draft picks on “career backups” and come next season, it is likely that NONE of them will be on the Steelers roster.

Landry
Dobbs
Mason

So add “Capable Backup QB” to the list of players that Tombert can’t draft worth a fucking shit. Would have been really nice to spend those picks on players who could contribute on game day.

You search and lock up a veteran backup QB. That’s how you do it. This merry-go-round system we’ve employed is exactly what you don’t do.

[stillcajun]

Would love to see Paxton. But I thought Rudolph was solid today. If he doesn't get hurt I think we win actually.

Go back and watch the TD pass to DJ. That was his finest moment. He had shit footwork, when he should have had a QB peacock pose on that throw.

His plant foot pointed towards the 30 yard line seats, and the ball traveled almost along the hash mark lines. Just sloppy foot work. He does show consistency.....in his lack of accuracy.

If Duck and Mason were the wonder twins...wonder twin powers activate! Duck “form of a excrement!” and Mason “form of hot garbage!”

Dude now that was funny!

[Jobu]

Also - lest you forget that in the better part of this decade, we have wasted 3 mid-tier draft picks on “career backups” and come next season, it is likely that NONE of them will be on the Steelers roster.

Landry
Dobbs
Mason

So add “Capable Backup QB” to the list of players that Tombert can’t draft worth a fucking shit. Would have been really nice to spend those picks on players who could contribute on game day.

You search and lock up a veteran backup QB. That’s how you do it. This merry-go-round system we’ve employed is exactly what you don’t do.

Rudolph will most certainly e on the roster next season.

[Kodiak]

Do you know the meaning of exceptional situational factors? Let someone knock you out cold and see how you are afterwards.

LOL, he sucked before he got concussed and he still sucks two months after being concussed.

He has 0 future as a starting QB. ZERO. He may perhaps develop into a competent backup, but after nearly two full years in the NFL I wouldn't expect him to get much better.

[Havoc]

Rudolph + Hodges:
267/418, 2705 yds, 63.9% ,18 TD / 17 INT, 6.47 YPA, 79.69 QB rating


PEYTON MANNING prorated rookie season:
295/521, 3388 yds, 56.7%, 24 TD / 25 INT, 6.5 YPA, 71.2 QB rating

That's 20 years ago for Manning when rookies rarely started. Completely different era.

Mason is coming to the end of his second year, and ran a pro offense in college. Maybe your argument would apply to Duck. Maybe. But after nearly two years, Mason is probably not going to get much better.

Yes, those Manning rookie numbers mean jack shit. Manning had elite NFL arm talent. I know B2B knows this.

Please, no more rag armed QB's on the field. I'd rather see a live arm... give Lynch a shot.

Arm strength is highly underrated in today's game.

The offense and Hodges had zero shot yesterday unless the OL was able to open holes in the run game on 1st and 2nd down. They didn't.

I remember early in the game, we sucked running the football on 1st down, then finally we threw the football vertically on a 1st down and had success. The next 1st down play we had an effective run play, then went right back to running the football again on 1st with no success killing our momentum.

8-8 is exactly what should happen with this defense and would happen with any average HC. 8-8 is what we likely get if the Ravens don't rest their starters.

Fitchner is in over his head. Tomlin is an albatross on the offensive side of the football.

[Donnie Brasco]

Do you know the meaning of exceptional situational factors? Let someone knock you out cold and see how you are afterwards.

LOL, he sucked before he got concussed and he still sucks two months after being concussed.

He has 0 future as a starting QB. ZERO. He may perhaps develop into a competent backup, but after nearly two full years in the NFL I wouldn't expect him to get much better.

It's funny, but if we had last years Oline I think MR looks pretty darn good out there and could certainly be a competent backup
Because the dude has the pocket presence of Laundry

[955876]

So add “Capable Backup QB” to the list of players that Tombert can’t draft worth a fucking shit. Would have been really nice to spend those picks on players who could contribute on game day.

George Kittle sure does make a lot of plays.

But but he’s far too athletic to play TE for the Steelers. Better grab that 3rd string QB instead.

[Jobu]

So add “Capable Backup QB” to the list of players that Tombert can’t draft worth a fucking shit. Would have been really nice to spend those picks on players who could contribute on game day.

George Kittle sure does make a lot of plays.

But but he’s far too athletic to play TE for the Steelers. Better grab that 3rd string QB instead.

The Steelers do not run their passing offense through the TE like the 9ers, or Rats. Kittle would be used in much the same way MacDonald is used. In other words, not much.
That said, I certainly understand your point, but...
“We do what we do!”

[955876]

So add “Capable Backup QB” to the list of players that Tombert can’t draft worth a fucking shit. Would have been really nice to spend those picks on players who could contribute on game day.

George Kittle sure does make a lot of plays.

But but he’s far too athletic to play TE for the Steelers. Better grab that 3rd string QB instead.

The Steelers do not run their passing offense through the TE like the 9ers, or Rats. Kittle would be used in much the same way MacDonald is used. In other words, not much.
That said, I certainly understand your point, but...
“We do what we do!”

Are they really “running the offense through the TE” or simply throwing the ball to a TE that gets open a whole lot?

This coaching from within your own self imposed box is one reason our offense is garbage.

[Pabst]

So add “Capable Backup QB” to the list of players that Tombert can’t draft worth a fucking shit. Would have been really nice to spend those picks on players who could contribute on game day.

George Kittle sure does make a lot of plays.

But but he’s far too athletic to play TE for the Steelers. Better grab that 3rd string QB instead.

Rudolph was drafted in 2018. Kittle was taken in 2017.

The 49ers drafted a pair of busts in the first round that year while the Steelers took TJ Watt and JJSS with their first two picks. So.....lets not pretend the 9ers are draft gurus

[Jobu]

George Kittle sure does make a lot of plays.

But but he’s far too athletic to play TE for the Steelers. Better grab that 3rd string QB instead.

The Steelers do not run their passing offense through the TE like the 9ers, or Rats. Kittle would be used in much the same way MacDonald is used. In other words, not much.
That said, I certainly understand your point, but...
“We do what we do!”

Are they really “running the offense through the TE” or simply throwing the ball to a TE that gets open a whole lot?

This coaching from within your own self imposed box is one reason our offense is garbage.

Getting open, or schemed open? Not that there’s a difference in the end results. The Rats certainly run a TE-centric offense, and I believe that SF does also. It looks to me that the TE is often the first and second reads in the passing game. I coiuld be wrong, but I don’t think so. Other than that ridiculous quick “screen”, is the TE ever the primary receiver in the Steelers plans?

This coaching from within your own self imposed box is one reason our offense is garbage.

I could not agree with this more...this is reason #1 that Mike Tomlin is what he is.
We can all use whatever word we like to describe what “he is”. Mine begins with “F” and ends in “ailure”!

[955876]

So add “Capable Backup QB” to the list of players that Tombert can’t draft worth a fucking shit. Would have been really nice to spend those picks on players who could contribute on game day.

George Kittle sure does make a lot of plays.

But but he’s far too athletic to play TE for the Steelers. Better grab that 3rd string QB instead.

Rudolph was drafted in 2018. Kittle was taken in 2017.

The 49ers drafted a pair of busts in the first round that year while the Steelers took TJ Watt and JJSS with their first two picks. So.....lets not pretend the 9ers are draft gurus

1) I’m referring to the drafting of Josh Dobbs in the 4th while our TEs at the moment we’re but Jesse James and Xavier Grimble.

2) I’m not proclaiming them to be geniuses. However, they took an athletic TE that we could have easily had that turned out to be among the best in the league.

3) We then had to trade a 4th that summer to those very 49ers because it was evident (like it wasn’t before the draft ) our TE depth was awful.

So essentially, we have spent two 4ths on players that are either already not here (Dobbs) or can’t stay on the field in McDonald.

Losing Ben and having a vanilla scheme aren’t the only reasons this team struggles on offense. Poor draft logic has played into it as well.

[steeledge]

To all you folks that thought this piece of shit coaching staff was going to take this less than talented offense and turn it into a winning offense with Zero skill players. Zero RB's and Zero talent at QB.
...

There is no plug and play. There is a huge drop off when one vet goes down and a bench warmer has to step in. Why is that? Cause they do what they do. Square peg Round hole....

Fuck this team is bad. Worst they've been since the early 2000's. The very idea of fans being shocked at this is beyond laughable anymore.

The offseason is going to be interesting.

It's really a shame that, instead of leading to him owning the Steelers as it very well could have, David Tepper's path led to him owning the Panthers.

He really seems to have it figured out early.

Been living in Charlotte area almost a decade now.

Maybe it's time...

[Pabst]

Poor draft logic? For every George Kittle there are 10 "athletic te's" that straight up bust. It's a risk at a position that they didn't highly value anyway.

If you want to say they should start valuing the position more, then fine, but saying they should have taken Kittle is a pure hindsight argument

[Orangesteel]

Can’t use Kittle as an example. He’s an outlier. Plus, dozens of other teams passed on him.

But drafting Landry / Dobbs / Mason? Come on. That was fucking stupid.

[955876]

But drafting Landry / Dobbs / Mason? Come on. That was fucking stupid.

That is my point. We keep burning these mid round picks on career back-up types like Landry & Dobbs.

I get you need to take a QB here and there.

However, when your TEs are Jesse James and Xavier Grimble you pretty much need to spend that 4th on a TE and not a clipboard holder given you had Ben.

Kittle is used here because he’s turned out to be among the best in the league at a position we badly needed to upgrade.

I wouldn’t be griping bout it had they taken a player from a position of need like TE rather than shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic with these useless QB picks.

[steelmann58]

Mason will miss at least two weeks maybe more here comes Lynch.
If Mason would have stayed down don't believe he would have been hurt

[Donnie Brasco]

Ian Rapoport
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#Steelers QB Mason Rudolph, who had a left shoulder injury yesterday, is out multiple weeks, source says. Even if Pittsburgh gets into the playoffs, Rudolph is not expected to be available. It’s the going forward.

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[SteelPowerful]

That's 20 years ago for Manning when rookies rarely started. Completely different era.

Mason is coming to the end of his second year, and ran a pro offense in college. Maybe your argument would apply to Duck. Maybe. But after nearly two years, Mason is probably not going to get much better.

Mason ran a pro offense in college?



Oh shit! Do people on this site actually think before they post this bullshit?!



I don't give a fuck what anybody says. If the QB rarely takes a snap directly from center, that is not a professional offense. That is some flag football bullshit.

Huge difference between lining up in shotgun and directly behind center.

Nonetheless, Rudolph is light years better than Hodges and it isn't even close.

[955876]

Mason will miss at least two weeks maybe more here comes Lynch.

Well, the season will be over in 1 so it really doesn’t matter.

Even if we win I have serious doubts the Titans will lose with the playoffs on the line and also playing a team resting starters.

We will come up a game short as per the standard.

It’s those pesky lil winnable games we just can’t seem to win.

But the team will chest bump the 9-7 record and claim awww shucks if we just got some help this was a playoff team. Mikey T coach of the year with no other coaching changes .