Some easy realistic changes you would make

[SteelerDayTrader]

Heres some of mine:

1) Cut Switzer. He sucks. There are practice squads filled with likely better returners and WRs for that matter. 2 yards and a cloud of ice cream scares no one. I would bring in John Kelly of UT off the Rams PS and give him a shot. Probably Cedrick Wilson too.

2) Cut Chickillo. He sucks. I would sign Tuzar Skipper. He has some talent and fire. I will deal with rookie mistakes over zero impact talent.

3) Most nfl teams carry 6 WRs for a reason. I would roll with DJ and Washington on the outside and put JuJu in the slot where he is more of a mismatch. I will deal with growing pains from DJ and Washington. At least we will see what we really have. I would keep Holton. Good STer. Probably more talented than Moncrief at WR too. JuJu DJ Washington Holton is 4. Id like to see a burner brought in off someones practice squad. At someone who could take the top off the defense. Moncrief dropped 4 passes in ONE GAME. Good WRs dont drop 4 in a year. Id cut Moncrief too. John Kelly would be a PERFECT screen/short pass option and he could get some RB touches too. Thats JuJu DJ Washington Holton and Kelly at WR. Ced Wilson Jr isnt a bad kick/punt return option either. The bottom line is our WR group sucks. Particularly if Switzer and Moncrief are your main targets.

4) Edmunds sucks. He is a klutz with zero feel for SS in the NFL. Horrible tackler too. Im not sure we have options to cut him immediately. I would definitely bring in another SS candidate. If that means cutting Dangerfield fine. Dangerfield is not going to be a difference maker ever. Perhaps bring back PJ Locke ? In any case the Steelers need to at minimum make some effort to improve SS.

5) I have a feeling this mightve been a different game if the Steelers had made up their mind to go with young talent at WR in JuJu DJ and Washington in Latrobe and forward rather than JAG or worse vets in Switzer and Moncrief.

7) Im not sure this team wouldve beaten the Cheats tonite either way but I am sure the coaching staff has made a HUGE error if they think lousy low end players like Switzer Moncrief Chickillo etc etc getting alot of snaps is winning football

[955876]

Tomlin always stubs his toe when it comes to roster building. It’s part of his “standard”

Should have been fired after coaching his 7-2-1 team out of the postseason last year.

That was change 1...

[SteelerDayTrader]

Tomlin always stubs his toe when it comes to roster building. It’s part of his “standard”

Im not sure I agree. He does have his faults and I will reserve my full judgement on specifically this season til I see more.

Without going into a VERY long post, the Steelers as an organization had DJ rated as the number 1 WR in the draft.

That alone even before this season began is shocking to me

The fact that the guy you had rated as the number 1 WR gets less snaps than Switzer or Moncrief is also shocking to me

The Steelers have problems. They arent all on Mike Tomlin or mere surface level issues that simply require some basic adjustment.

[Kodiak]

...The Steelers have problems. They arent all on Mike Tomlin ..

But....he's the HC - buck stops with him.

[955876]

Nothing you said counters my comment.

Tomlin falls in love with the idea of doing something rather than letting what he’s seeing in front of him guide those choices.

We can agree to disagree. I’m not wasting any time citing examples.

I didn’t just come to this conclusion tonight.

He sucks at putting together his roster.

[Legacy User]

Why do we always keep players that nobody else would have on their roster? The Chickillos and Heyward Beys of the world. Lee Mays years ago. These guys FINALLY get released and they never get signed by another team and their careers are over. Why do we refuse to go with the younger guys that flash more? I do not see other teams doing this. Sometimes its like we are stuck in the stone age with the way we handle our roster.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Why do we always keep players that nobody else would have on their roster? The Chickillos and Heyward Beys of the world. Lee Mays years ago. These guys FINALLY get released and they never get signed by another team and their careers are over. Why do we refuse to go with the younger guys that flash more? I do not see other teams doing this. Sometimes its like we are stuck in the stone age with the way we handle our roster.

Yep ^^^^^

And this has been going on for FAR longer than Tomlin

Not the only issue or proof of absence of Tomlin's own issues

But like I said the Steelers have problems that are deeper than just a few minor adjustments

[SteelerDayTrader]

...The Steelers have problems. They arent all on Mike Tomlin ..

But....he's the HC - buck stops with him.

Lol. Yeah the buck stops with the HC. That doesnt mean the HC is the root problem or even the biggest problem unreservedly

[Legacy User]

We came out and tried to play exactly the same way as we did last year. The scheme needs to change. The strength of this offense is in the O-line, Conner, JuJu and Vance. We need to run more heavy sets with Banner or Chuks, Rosie in the backfield, and throw Samuels on the field so we can shift formations. Our receiving core is too young to just throw out there man v man. You’re going to need to get downhill and for the love of fucking god, scheme up Vance. Vance should be our #2 in this offense. Throwing 2 yards to Switzer and Moncrief in 4 wide is a waste of time. Get downhill and run some goddamn playaction. They ran one playaction play and it was some of the only yards we gained last night.

Defensively, we have to be able to move our personnel around more. Watt was getting killed by chip blocks all night and we were letting Bud lose every time. We can’t be afraid to constantly be moving personnel and dictating to the offense what we’re going to do. Thats what the good defenses in the league do now. Stop fucking subbing in Alualu and Chick after one series.

I can’t believe Tomlin and crew were arrogant enough to think they could just do what they were doing last year and get away with it. Disgusting lack of self-scouting and demonstrates a complete lack of flexibility.

[K_C_]

But Switzer's our Julian Edelman.

[Lynch]

If you guys honestly think Switzer or Chickillo are what's holding this team back, well, you're even less intelligent than I'd have guessed.

If Tomlin were fired and Haley brought back as HC, we'd be a better team by a factor of ten. I'm not joking.

[K_C_]

If you guys honestly think Switzer or Chickillo are what's holding this team back, well, you're even less intelligent than I'd have guessed.

If Tomlin were fired and Haley brought back as HC, we'd be a better team by a factor of ten. I'm not joking.

But Switzer's our Julian Edelman.

[Steelafan77]

This offense has always sputtered out the gate. It seems to be the expected tradition. Some games they barely get through with a win, and some like last night are embarrassing/humiliating losses. The offense was lost without Antonio Brown last night. Would having him on the field have been enough? We'll never know. We do know that without him last night Smith-Schuster was a non-factor. Switzer and Moncrief have now proven to me why they've both bounced around the NFL like they have. They both are JAG with limitations. I would have benched Moncrief and Switzer for Washington and Johnson. Like you've stated you'd have done.

I beg to differ on the OLine. Feiler got pushed around a lot last night. Got beat like drum in a metal band several times. I don't know that Feiler is the answer at RT going forward. The run game, wait there was no run game. The Patriot defense shut that down early. The Steeler offense had no answer. Just like a Belichick coached team they took away the best assets of their opponent and made the Steelers one dimensional. They took away the run game and they took away the receiving threat [Juju]. Like the champions they are.

The defense? The defense as currently constructed Scares the living shit out of me. It's supposed to be..., this defense scares the living shit out of their opponents. That was not the case last night. The defense [if you want to call them defense] got manhandled and humiliated at every play. They were out matched, outplayed and outsmarted from start to finish. This was a really huge test for the defense. What I saw last night tells me this defense still has many holes and a lot of work to do to catch up with real competitors like the Patriots.

As heartbreaking and mortifying as that game [if we can even call it a game] was to watch for me there's still some hope that this team can still compete at some level. Just not on the same level as the Patriots. Seems like the Steelers will Never, Ever win in Foxboro as long as Tom Brady is quarterbacking and Bill Belichick is coaching that franchise. 33-3 is fortunate. Could have been 63-3. They are the champions for a reason.

[Lynch]

If you guys honestly think Switzer or Chickillo are what's holding this team back, well, you're even less intelligent than I'd have guessed.

If Tomlin were fired and Haley brought back as HC, we'd be a better team by a factor of ten. I'm not joking.

[K_C_]

If you guys honestly think Switzer or Chickillo are what's holding this team back, well, you're even less intelligent than I'd have guessed.

If Tomlin were fired and Haley brought back as HC, we'd be a better team by a factor of ten. I'm not joking.

But Switzer's our Julian Edelman.

[Donnie Brasco]

I don't disagree with any of your suggestions

But none of those are "realistic" when it comes to tomlin's Steelers

Vets get the hat, we're gonna "do what we do" bc we just "need to execute"

Same old thing...

[SteelerDayTrader]

I don't disagree with any of your suggestions

But none of those are "realistic" when it comes to tomlin's Steelers

Vets get the hat, we're gonna "do what we do" bc we just "need to execute"

Same old thing...

Id just point out it was that way under Cowher as well. Its much deeper than whoever the HC is

[steelmann58]

sorry but don't think Switzer did anything bad last night don't see the hate

[Donnie Brasco]

sorry but don't think Switzer did anything bad last night don't see the hate

Right- dude gets shit on constantly here.

It's not his fault that the coaches keep greater talents on the bench

[SteelerDayTrader]

sorry but don't think Switzer did anything bad last night don't see the hate

Right- dude gets shit on constantly here.

It's not his fault that the coaches keep greater talents on the bench

Mr. Two Yards and A Cloud of Ice Cream goes down at first contact on every play. Not good.

[Steelperch]

The Steelers ate a $20 million in cap hit and gave away their best player in exchange for mid round picks because they lack discipline and couldn’t manage him. Now he ends up on their biggest rival and the Steelers offense is void of playmakers. They’re fucked this year. Zero shot at a championship.

The only change I make is give James Washington and Dionte Johnson baptism by fire. Put those two in your top 3 WRs and let them learn or drown. By the end of the year they’ll be good or you’ll know WR is your top priority next offseason.

[SteelerDayTrader]

The Steelers ate a $20 million in cap hit and gave away their best player in exchange for mid round picks because they lack discipline and couldn’t manage him. Now he ends up on their biggest rival and the Steelers offense is void of playmakers. They’re fucked this year. Zero shot at a championship.

The only change I make is give James Washington and Dionte Johnson baptism by fire. Put those two in your top 3 WRs and let them learn or drown. By the end of the year they’ll be good or you’ll know WR is your top priority next offseason.

Agree

[steelmann58]

who did they keep on the bench for Switzer Just curious?
I not saying he world beater? I think we can play Washington more and even Johnson
but think their should be more critic of DM who was terrible last night

[Orangesteel]

who did they keep on the bench for Switzer Just curious?
I not saying he world beater? I think we can play Washington more and even Johnson
but think their should be more critic of DM who was terrible last night

Moncrief saw time over Washington.

Switzer saw time over Johnson.

33-3.

[K_C_]

sorry but don't think Switzer did anything bad last night don't see the hate

[steelmann58]

I agree about Moncrief they went with the Vet but needed to get Washington in more during that blow out.

[K_C_]

The Steelers ate a $20 million in cap hit and gave away their best player in exchange for mid round picks because they lack discipline and couldn’t manage him. Now he ends up on their biggest rival and the Steelers offense is void of playmakers. They’re fucked this year. Zero shot at a championship.

The only change I make is give James Washington and Dionte Johnson baptism by fire. Put those two in your top 3 WRs and let them learn or drown. By the end of the year they’ll be good or you’ll know WR is your top priority next offseason.

I agree with all of what you said except one part.

MC Hammer Jr will ZERO DOUBT cause problems (and soon) in New England.

Why?

They don't need him.

He won't be force fed targets and his end of year stats are going to be beyond unimpressive.

MC Hammer Jr ain't gonna like that and he's going to act out....then he'll be cut.

Nobody can "manage" this fuck. Nobody.

[steelmann58]

I tend to agree AB is not going to like Brady spreading the ball around.

[Kodiak]

...The Steelers have problems. They arent all on Mike Tomlin ..

But....he's the HC - buck stops with him.

Lol. Yeah the buck stops with the HC. That doesnt mean the HC is the root problem or even the biggest problem unreservedly

It means if he doesn't have the answers, then he IS the biggest problem. You can't fix shit if your HC has his head up his ass. Nothing else matters because he's the guy who has to fix it.

[Donnie Brasco]

Mr. Two Yards and A Cloud of Ice Cream goes down at first contact on every play. Not good.

He's truly a "possession receiver". A guy who will catch the ball and knows where the sticks are

That's what he's good at. He's not a speedster, he's not going to break tackles