How is This Not an Illegal Contract?

[LakecrestSteeler]

The NFL is the WWE if this trade is not voided.

AB was not traded to the Pats you say? Well he was traded from the Steelers to the Raiders, and he defaulted and defrauded the Raiders out of a 3rd and 5th round pick. This is just flagrant fraud and it will potentially cost people their jobs, income, merchandising revenue and the list goes on. When you throw in public monies for stadium financing, this gets serious.

The Raiders should file an injunction to prevent AB from playing, to prevent the invalidation of future contracts, to prevent an onslaught of fraud in the NFL with contracts, and to get their draft picks back.

The Patriots should be fined severely for tampering.

The Steelers should have the rights to Brown returned to their ownership.

Brown should be suspended for one year.

This is a serious violation of contract law and is so obviously fraudulent. How this is not taken more serious is beyond my comprehension. If I was the Raiders organization I would immediately take this to court.

[955876]

Raiders fucked up by releasing him vs suspending him.

Had they done the latter they would have voided the guaranteed money and yet retained his rights.

Teams keep caving to these punk ass bitches.

[LakecrestSteeler]

They could still sue for fraud. The release of AB is just due to the pressures of the contract language, which are all written based on perpetrating a fraud. Take the sports agency to court! And the NFl should be footing the bill.

[SteelerDayTrader]

All totally legal

Ethical it is not.

The NFL doesnt care. Their darling Cheats team has things set up for them yet again. Why ??

BY FAR the largest TV audience viewing team. The NFL is ALL ABOUT TV money. The ENTIRE population west of NY can claim New England fandom as well as frontrunning bandwagoners elsewhere.

Fait accompli

[SteelerDayTrader]

Raiders fucked up by releasing him vs suspending him.

Had they done the latter they would have voided the guaranteed money and yet retained his rights.

Teams keep caving to these punk ass bitches.

Yep

[LakecrestSteeler]

I disagree. The NFL is in a PR nightmare right now. Need proof?

New York Post Headlines:
https://nypost.com/2019/09/07/patriots-deserve-hell-for-shameful-antonio-brown-scheme/amp/

Patriots deserve hell for shameful Antonio Brown scheme

[ToddHaleysNineIron]

Everyone knows what this was.

I want to know what contact his agent had with the Patriots beforehand.

No player does this without a landing spot.

No agent stays with a player who does this without a landing spot.

This isn't the first time players have seemed to purposely walked out on a team knowing the team can't afford the wasted roster spot only to turn around and sign with the Patriots.

What did Rosenhaus know and when did he know it?

[Kodiak]

If there's any justice in the world, he's going to fail multiple drug tests.

[LakecrestSteeler]

All totally legal

Ethical it is not.

The NFL doesnt care. Their darling Cheats team has things set up for them yet again. Why ??

BY FAR the largest TV audience viewing team. The NFL is ALL ABOUT TV money. The ENTIRE population west of NY can claim New England fandom as well as frontrunning bandwagoners elsewhere.

Fait accompli

It is not all totally legal. The intent was to defraud the Raiders to at least get to the open market and possibly to just the Patriots. It is fraud no matter how you slice it. Take it to court and start suing for records and email and you will quickly see the premeditation.

And if it is unethical, the NFL can step in for that too, which quickly gets into contract law too. I hope to god the public outrage forces some hands.

And do it to add stress to Rosenhaus and Brown and to mess with his bliss for games.

[Alibe]

Fraud is fraud...whenThe Raiders released him. The Pats could not have signed him and therefore completed the fraud if the Raiders had not released him. The Pats were in on it, I suggest. The NFL should call this tampering and fraud and conspiracy and a few other things. It reaches the level of fraud only after the Raiders released him. Hence fraud! And compels all NFL teams to demand action in the form of AB being suspended for 1 year. And the Pats to forfeit 4 games and allow the Raiders to poach 2 players from them as compensation. The Pats have pulled this stunt a number of times. This is a dirty rotten move by them. And it needs to be addressed! Both AB and the Pats should pay heavily for this fraud.

[chippedhamsandwich]

Raiders waste a 3rd and 5th round pick...

Steelers saddled with $21 million in dead money.

Fucking bullshit all around

[Steelersfan]

STD said it best. Unethical as hell, but when did the Patriots EVER care about ethics. It all started by the NFL sweeping the cheating under the rug & letting them off the hook for blatant, proven cheating to gain advantage. Everyone knows they should of been stripped of their first 3 titles. The NFL brought this on themselves. This doesn't even involve shit like the bullshit "Tuck Rule", Jesse James catch or deflatgate. I'm talking the blatant serious rule breaking & scrupulous acts to degrade the shield.

Nobody is even talking about the Dolphins bullshit. Tanking and selling off their best players. The Patriots have NEVER had any competition in the time Brady & shady Belichek have been together. NONE! The biggest competition they EVER had was one & an a half years of Mark Sanchez & Rex Ryan. Think about that, Sanchez ONLY! Meanwhile every other team in the NFL gets beat up playing their division rivals and the Patriots for 20 years coast to have to win two games at the end of the year to win the Super Bowl.

The Dolphins should be heavily fined. And I know we can't go back in time now, BUT the Patriots should have been stripped of titles back then. The NFL is letting the inmates run the asylum and its hurting viewership.

If they let this swindling Rosenhaus chess match (lets face it AB isn't smart enough) go through, it will be a HUGE black eye to the NFL in my mind. The NFL management needs to take a stand or be FIRED. If this goes through, the rest of the NFL (good guy) management, needs to take a stand. Brady is fair game to break in half, in my mind. Bring back "The Bounty".

[ToddHaleysNineIron]

The proof of this will come when AB is a model teammate. You watch - the guy will be a saint. Say all the right things.

It's part of the deal.

This was all a show.

Ab gets 9 mil guaranteed, a year with Tom Brady, and becomes a free agent again hoping to get the biggest WR contract.

That's the way he thinks - that's the way his agent thinks.

This was orchestrated - and no doubt NE was in on it.

I hope he tears all possible ligaments in both legs. That's justice.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Raiders waste a 3rd and 5th round pick...

Steelers saddled with $21 million in dead money.

Fucking bullshit all around

Not bullshit. Contract fraud. Everyone is playing by the rules and trying to do what is best for AB as a human, meanwhile AB and DR are playing to subvert the laws, ethics and spirit of contract law. It is illegal plain and simple.

I can’t believe how much my tune has changed from 11:00am to 4:30PM. Please someone take this to court! How about one of these Casinos that will have no headliners for next year bankroll a legitimate lawsuit!

[Legacy User]

There is something seriously wrong with players being able to agitate their way off of teams that legally hold their rights. There needs to be some remedy for this. Don't like the team you're playing for? Play out your contract and join another team in free agency. No more of this getting out of contracts with bad behavior.

[Alibe]

No wonder Robert Kraft and an Individual #1 are close friends! Cheating, collusion, rule of law trashed, fuck the rules, do what you can get away with and destroy the game. It thoroughly disgusts me. There is no rule he won’t break or law he won’t skirt. People are too timid to call either on it. Shame on this league and this country!

[955876]

No wonder Robert Kraft and an Individual #1 are close friends! Cheating, collusion, rule of law trashed, fuck the rules, do what you can get away with and destroy the game. It thoroughly disgusts me. There is no rule he won’t break or law he won’t skirt. People are too timid to call either on it. Shame on this league and this country!

[ToddHaleysNineIron]

No wonder Robert Kraft and an Individual #1 are close friends! Cheating, collusion, rule of law trashed, fuck the rules, do what you can get away with and destroy the game. It thoroughly disgusts me. There is no rule he won’t break or law he won’t skirt. People are too timid to call either on it. Shame on this league and this country!

post count checks out....

If the NFL destroyed evidence for Kraft, no "tampering" investigation is getting off the ground. Sad part is this will probably happen again when Tom Brady turns 43. While others have done the same, AB and the Patriots just made this type of move mainstream.

[Kodiak]

What are the chances some pissed-off DA in California is a Raiders fan? Because an illegal recording is subject to up to a year in prison!

Gotta be a way to screw with AB on this.

[ToddHaleysNineIron]

What are the chances some pissed-off DA in California is a Raiders fan? Because an illegal recording is subject to up to a year in prison!

Gotta be a way to screw with AB on this.

That poor DA will have to get in line to deal with AB's lawyers, considering how many people are suing him.

[Alibe]

Todd, do you think discussing a question of legality that underpins this questionable tactic of defrauding teams has only to do with football? That there are no overtones that make this permissible and to discuss larger issues, especially after a NFL owner of that questionable team has been recently arrested? There are sleazy connections and this AB signing has sleazy connotations to it that need investigations. To refuse to acknowledge this reeks of indifference to major corruptions within this game. It is a strange thing to suspend players who smoke a joint but turn a blind eye to owners and coaches and players and agents who conspire to defraud 2 teams of millions of dollars in value. It is all rolled into the milieu of pervasive corruption from the top down.

[COR-TEN]

Bah. I suppose since lying and cheating has become de rigueur, this kind of fraud should be expected and tolerated. We've tolerated much worse.

But it's too soon to tell if anybody is going to investigate this. I'm not sure the NFL really cares all that much. The flurry of articles and clicks and reportage is a marketing dream for the NFL. My news app already has four or five articles in the first two scrolls, and not all from espn. The washington post, slate, etc. It's been going on like that for a week and a half. Way past the typical news cycle.

NE is now the super team. Edleman, Gordon, and brown as WR. Marsha as qb, and belichick as HC.

Fuck me.

[BethlehemSteel]

cant you fucktards follow the god dam fucking rules and keep the politics out of the board!!!

For christ sake, shut it down

[LakecrestSteeler]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... urday/amp/

”Suspicions grow that Antonio Brown to the Patriots didn’t happen out of the blue on Saturday”

No shit! If pressure keeps building...who knows. It is a long shot.

[bradshaw2ben]

C'mon guys. You are wasting my time. Correction: you are wasting a shitload of my time. I should institute a rule: it costs you $10 every time I have to delete all or part of your post because it contains politics. $5 of it goes to making SteelerFury better for everyone else who will be here after you get banned, and the other $5 goes to the political candidate/cause that is the most opposite of yours. What do you say?

[stillthere]

C'mon guys. You are wasting my time. Correction: you are wasting a shitload of my time. I should institute a rule: it costs you $10 every time I have to delete all or part of your post because it contains politics. $5 of it goes to making SteelerFury better for everyone else who will be here after you get banned, and the other $5 goes to the political candidate/cause that is the most opposite of yours. What do you say?

I support this or you got my vote whatever best fits.

[COR-TEN]

C'mon guys. You are wasting my time. Correction: you are wasting a shitload of my time. I should institute a rule: it costs you $10 every time I have to delete all or part of your post because it contains politics. $5 of it goes to making SteelerFury better for everyone else who will be here after you get banned, and the other $5 goes to the political candidate/cause that is the most opposite of yours. What do you say?

Can't blame me!!!

[955876]

Alibe is likely an alias you created...

I kid.

Yes B2B do that. You pay your $10 you get a warning. Don't pay the $10 you get banned. You decide how many warnings you want to give and how much money you want to collect.

[Kodiak]

C'mon guys. You are wasting my time. Correction: you are wasting a shitload of my time. I should institute a rule: it costs you $10 every time I have to delete all or part of your post because it contains politics. $5 of it goes to making SteelerFury better for everyone else who will be here after you get banned, and the other $5 goes to the political candidate/cause that is the most opposite of yours. What do you say?

That's awesome

[Drummer Boy]

Fair enough.