Heavy formation

[Havoc]

Steelers have been awfully horrible on offense to start games.
Out of sync, pre-snap penalties, illegal formations, burned time-outs, etc.
Outscored 55-19 in first quarter so far.

Speaks to preparation, game planning, personnel and formations, play calling, intensity and execution.
They are not ready to come out of the gates, ready to play winning football.

Has to change in the second half of the season, which is the tuffer half of our season.
Ravens, Panthers, Jags, Chargers, Pats, Saints, Bengals.......

The article below, which the OP later found makes an interesting point:

“Fichtner’s goal appears to be wearing defenses down early so that by the second half, Conner can run all over their front seven. The numbers don’t lie.

Pittsburgh’s yards per carry jumps from 4.4 in the first quarter to a whopping 6.8 in the fourth quarter the last two weeks. Only three of Conner’s nine carries have gained fewer than two yards so from an average and success standpoint, the numbers sharply improve.”

If they clean up a couple of Stosh’s points, this strategy will be super effective with the D playing better. I think the linemen have cleaned up the penalties for one.

I think this strategy can work against the Ravens if the D plays like Sunday.

First half vs Browns...

1st possession... 3 passes, 1 run
2nd possession... 2 passes, 1 run
3rd possession... 1 pass, 2 runs
4th possession... 6 passes, 0 runs
5th possession... 8 passes, 8 runs

[Legacy User]

Steelers have been awfully horrible on offense to start games.
Out of sync, pre-snap penalties, illegal formations, burned time-outs, etc.
Outscored 55-19 in first quarter so far.

Speaks to preparation, game planning, personnel and formations, play calling, intensity and execution.
They are not ready to come out of the gates, ready to play winning football.

Has to change in the second half of the season, which is the tuffer half of our season.
Ravens, Panthers, Jags, Chargers, Pats, Saints, Bengals.......

The article below, which the OP later found makes an interesting point:

“Fichtner’s goal appears to be wearing defenses down early so that by the second half, Conner can run all over their front seven. The numbers don’t lie.

Pittsburgh’s yards per carry jumps from 4.4 in the first quarter to a whopping 6.8 in the fourth quarter the last two weeks. Only three of Conner’s nine carries have gained fewer than two yards so from an average and success standpoint, the numbers sharply improve.”

If they clean up a couple of Stosh’s points, this strategy will be super effective with the D playing better. I think the linemen have cleaned up the penalties for one.

I think this strategy can work against the Ravens if the D plays like Sunday.

First half vs Browns...

1st possession... 3 passes, 1 run
2nd possession... 2 passes, 1 run
3rd possession... 1 pass, 2 runs
4th possession... 6 passes, 0 runs
5th possession... 8 passes, 8 runs

That's because Conner was ready to play in the first quarter and wasn't in synch with the rest of the offense.

[bradshaw2ben]

That's because Conner was ready to play in the first quarter and wasn't in synch with the rest of the offense.

What?

[Stosh-67]

That's because Conner was ready to play in the first quarter and wasn't in synch with the rest of the offense.

What?

It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination....

[COR-TEN]

That's because Conner was ready to play in the first quarter and wasn't in synch with the rest of the offense.

What?

It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination....

Rod Serling nods his dead head.

[Stosh-67]

Lol.
Once again you nailed my referenceable sense of humor

[steelmann58]

Lets hope we don't start the game without starting off with a special teams penality.

[strom detmer]

Conner and company endangering people as they compete with pure malice is becoming this teams identity. Maddened into irrational spasms of carnage and gore by the smell of fresh blood in the second half leads to the oppositions defensive players being carted off. Defenses are finding themselves in a hellish dungeon of pain, rage, and bitter, unending sorrow. Last weeks game ended with our offense behaving like ravenous wolverines fighting over the putrid deer carcass that was once the Browns defense. That is a team my Dog and I can love.. I say MORE. In a game with stupid rules like Goodell has created you need an offense that snarls and spits like saber-toothed tigers digging their fangs into the flank of a stunned woolly mammoth and bringing it to the ground as it thrashes and howls in pain. Fuck 5 wide, Fichtner has destroyed the pathetic non- QB sneaking finesse dog shit Todd Haley degraded our city with and has emerged with a more terrible, potent, and destructive offense than any of us Leveon Bell hesitating loving boneheads could possibly imagine. Soon we will weep with joy and terror as we pummel New England for the first time ever. Disemboweling may become a penalty. Damnit I mixed suboxone with valium and this is all I came up with? Me thinks me needs to add mushrooms. Oh yeah, now I too have un-shackled this weak, decaying sack of skin and blood and can see this drug induced rant can no longer contain Fichtners power in the Heavy. It is unleashed! Cue side two of Highway to Hell and is it Sunday yet? Wait is that really a day? Sun day? weird

[tbsteel]

Conner and company endangering people as they compete with pure malice is becoming this teams identity. Maddened into irrational spasms of carnage and gore by the smell of fresh blood in the second half leads to the oppositions defensive players being carted off. Defenses are finding themselves in a hellish dungeon of pain, rage, and bitter, unending sorrow. Last weeks game ended with our offense behaving like ravenous wolverines fighting over the putrid deer carcass that was once the Browns defense. That is a team my Dog and I can love.. I say MORE. In a game with stupid rules like Goodell has created you need an offense that snarls and spits like saber-toothed tigers digging their fangs into the flank of a stunned woolly mammoth and bringing it to the ground as it thrashes and howls in pain. Fuck 5 wide, Fichtner has destroyed the pathetic non- QB sneaking finesse dog shit Todd Haley degraded our city with and has emerged with a more terrible, potent, and destructive offense than any of us Leveon Bell hesitating loving boneheads could possibly imagine. Soon we will weep with joy and terror as we pummel New England for the first time ever. Disemboweling may become a penalty. Damnit I mixed suboxone with valium and this is all I came up with? Me thinks me needs to add mushrooms. Oh yeah, now I too have un-shackled this weak, decaying sack of skin and blood and can see this drug induced rant can no longer contain Fichtners power in the Heavy. It is unleashed! Cue side two of Highway to Hell and is it Sunday yet? Wait is that really a day? Sun day? weird

I agree 100%.

The Steelers will treat the rest of the league like a prolapsed anus as we playfully suck in and then push out the bloody, meaty flange of sphincter over and over--each successive push drooping lower and lower to the ground. After a few almost sexual, tease-filled minutes we will introduce the main event: the emergence of a hardened, black, unusually thick turd. Perhaps this one had been stowed away for a week, maybe more, patiently awaiting its birthing. The head is clover shaped and immaculate: a treasure trove of fast food over indulgence mixed with a hint of cinnamon and regret. Emerging like the top of a prairie dog from a grassland burrow, the glorious turd in some ways seems to take a moment to acknowledge the bemusement of its creation, carefully pausing for if but a second as it then slips over the edge of the event horizon, and down the slick prolapsed anus towards the ground. The hardened turd, appropriately much like steel, representing the squad we cheer for: the Pittsburgh Steelers. And the bloody, prolapsed anus that represents the rest of the NFL will have no choice but to admire our glorious sight as we slide right over top of them.

[strom detmer]

TB where has this been hiding? MORE!

[Legacy User]

Conner and company endangering people as they compete with pure malice is becoming this teams identity. Maddened into irrational spasms of carnage and gore by the smell of fresh blood in the second half leads to the oppositions defensive players being carted off. Defenses are finding themselves in a hellish dungeon of pain, rage, and bitter, unending sorrow. Last weeks game ended with our offense behaving like ravenous wolverines fighting over the putrid deer carcass that was once the Browns defense. That is a team my Dog and I can love.. I say MORE. In a game with stupid rules like Goodell has created you need an offense that snarls and spits like saber-toothed tigers digging their fangs into the flank of a stunned woolly mammoth and bringing it to the ground as it thrashes and howls in pain. Fuck 5 wide, Fichtner has destroyed the pathetic non- QB sneaking finesse dog shit Todd Haley degraded our city with and has emerged with a more terrible, potent, and destructive offense than any of us Leveon Bell hesitating loving boneheads could possibly imagine. Soon we will weep with joy and terror as we pummel New England for the first time ever. Disemboweling may become a penalty. Damnit I mixed suboxone with valium and this is all I came up with? Me thinks me needs to add mushrooms. Oh yeah, now I too have un-shackled this weak, decaying sack of skin and blood and can see this drug induced rant can no longer contain Fichtners power in the Heavy. It is unleashed! Cue side two of Highway to Hell and is it Sunday yet? Wait is that really a day? Sun day? weird

Dude, this is just awesome. Don't stop being you.

[Legacy User]

Conner and company endangering people as they compete with pure malice is becoming this teams identity. Maddened into irrational spasms of carnage and gore by the smell of fresh blood in the second half leads to the oppositions defensive players being carted off. Defenses are finding themselves in a hellish dungeon of pain, rage, and bitter, unending sorrow. Last weeks game ended with our offense behaving like ravenous wolverines fighting over the putrid deer carcass that was once the Browns defense. That is a team my Dog and I can love.. I say MORE. In a game with stupid rules like Goodell has created you need an offense that snarls and spits like saber-toothed tigers digging their fangs into the flank of a stunned woolly mammoth and bringing it to the ground as it thrashes and howls in pain. Fuck 5 wide, Fichtner has destroyed the pathetic non- QB sneaking finesse dog shit Todd Haley degraded our city with and has emerged with a more terrible, potent, and destructive offense than any of us Leveon Bell hesitating loving boneheads could possibly imagine. Soon we will weep with joy and terror as we pummel New England for the first time ever. Disemboweling may become a penalty. Damnit I mixed suboxone with valium and this is all I came up with? Me thinks me needs to add mushrooms. Oh yeah, now I too have un-shackled this weak, decaying sack of skin and blood and can see this drug induced rant can no longer contain Fichtners power in the Heavy. It is unleashed! Cue side two of Highway to Hell and is it Sunday yet? Wait is that really a day? Sun day? weird

I agree 100%.

The Steelers will treat the rest of the league like a prolapsed anus as we playfully suck in and then push out the bloody, meaty flange of sphincter over and over--each successive push drooping lower and lower to the ground. After a few almost sexual, tease-filled minutes we will introduce the main event: the emergence of a hardened, black, unusually thick turd. Perhaps this one had been stowed away for a week, maybe more, patiently awaiting its birthing. The head is clover shaped and immaculate: a treasure trove of fast food over indulgence mixed with a hint of cinnamon and regret. Emerging like the top of a prairie dog from a grassland burrow, the glorious turd in some ways seems to take a moment to acknowledge the bemusement of its creation, carefully pausing for if but a second as it then slips over the edge of the event horizon, and down the slick prolapsed anus towards the ground. The hardened turd, appropriately much like steel, representing the squad we cheer for: the Pittsburgh Steelers. And the bloody, prolapsed anus that represents the rest of the NFL will have no choice but to admire our glorious sight as we slide right over top of them.

This, on the other hand, is gross.

[Orangesteel]

Its been a long time since I remember seeing the Steelers offense as inept as they did the first game this season against the Rats. That was a prime time disaster.

This Sunday’s game will tell me a lot about hiring Fitchner. The Rats have a way to neutralize Tomlin; it hasn’t worked every time but when the Steelers don’t show up or have an “off” performance against Harbaugh he knows how to take us to the woodshed.

We need Juju and Vance big time in this game. Throw on obvious running downs early to get the Rats on their heels. We cannot waste possessions to get a feel for the game; though I suspect that is exactly what Tomlin will do.

We don’t need to do that; the first game was only 4 weeks ago and that dreadful performance should be fresh in their minds.

Really wish we had a legit 3rd WR right now...

[Legacy User]

That's because Conner was ready to play in the first quarter and wasn't in synch with the rest of the offense.

What?

Not to derail the gore train, but I wanted to jump in and explain myself.

In the previous post, havoc pointed out that there were a total of 4 runs in our first 4 possessions against the stains. A Rushing Over Possession Average, or ROPA, if you will, so that b2b can keep up. With a ROPA of 1, it showed a lack of commitment to the run, scripted or situational.

My point was that Conner showed up ready to play in the first quarter, and since the rest of the offense doesn't wake up until at least the second quarter, he was out of synch with them and therefore garnered a ROPA of 1, or more simply, minimal touches.

Clear as mud now?

[bradshaw2ben]

Yeah, it's clear your posts are predictable and inane.

And I couldn't help but notice when the ridiculousness of your arguments about statistics was blown out of the water in the 1st Q Point Differential thread that you were strangely absent.

Carry on.

[Legacy User]

Yeah, it's clear your posts are predictable and inane.

And I couldn't help but notice when the ridiculousness of your arguments about statistics was blown out of the water in the 1st Q Point Differential thread that you were strangely absent.

Carry on.

And you call me the troll. Kettle, meet pot. You're black.

[Legacy User]

Conner and company endangering people as they compete with pure malice is becoming this teams identity. Maddened into irrational spasms of carnage and gore by the smell of fresh blood in the second half leads to the oppositions defensive players being carted off. Defenses are finding themselves in a hellish dungeon of pain, rage, and bitter, unending sorrow. Last weeks game ended with our offense behaving like ravenous wolverines fighting over the putrid deer carcass that was once the Browns defense. That is a team my Dog and I can love.. I say MORE. In a game with stupid rules like Goodell has created you need an offense that snarls and spits like saber-toothed tigers digging their fangs into the flank of a stunned woolly mammoth and bringing it to the ground as it thrashes and howls in pain. Fuck 5 wide, Fichtner has destroyed the pathetic non- QB sneaking finesse dog shit Todd Haley degraded our city with and has emerged with a more terrible, potent, and destructive offense than any of us Leveon Bell hesitating loving boneheads could possibly imagine. Soon we will weep with joy and terror as we pummel New England for the first time ever. Disemboweling may become a penalty. Damnit I mixed suboxone with valium and this is all I came up with? Me thinks me needs to add mushrooms. Oh yeah, now I too have un-shackled this weak, decaying sack of skin and blood and can see this drug induced rant can no longer contain Fichtners power in the Heavy. It is unleashed! Cue side two of Highway to Hell and is it Sunday yet? Wait is that really a day? Sun day? weird

I agree 100%.

The Steelers will treat the rest of the league like a prolapsed anus as we playfully suck in and then push out the bloody, meaty flange of sphincter over and over--each successive push drooping lower and lower to the ground. After a few almost sexual, tease-filled minutes we will introduce the main event: the emergence of a hardened, black, unusually thick turd. Perhaps this one had been stowed away for a week, maybe more, patiently awaiting its birthing. The head is clover shaped and immaculate: a treasure trove of fast food over indulgence mixed with a hint of cinnamon and regret. Emerging like the top of a prairie dog from a grassland burrow, the glorious turd in some ways seems to take a moment to acknowledge the bemusement of its creation, carefully pausing for if but a second as it then slips over the edge of the event horizon, and down the slick prolapsed anus towards the ground. The hardened turd, appropriately much like steel, representing the squad we cheer for: the Pittsburgh Steelers. And the bloody, prolapsed anus that represents the rest of the NFL will have no choice but to admire our glorious sight as we slide right over top of them.

I dont know if it was the lady bug I swallowed by mistake this afternoon but my mind now feels like this dude with the classic mental orgasm after visually trying to follow along

https://youtu.be/OQSNhk5ICTI

[Havoc]

First half vs Browns...

1st possession... 3 passes, 1 run
2nd possession... 2 passes, 1 run
3rd possession... 1 pass, 2 runs
4th possession... 6 passes, 0 runs
5th possession... 8 passes, 8 runs

Adding more info...

First possession, (1 series) Heavy package until the 3rd and 11 give up on the possession designed throw.

Second possession, (1 series) No heavy packages

3rd possession, (1 series) heavy package on the first 2 downs

4th possession, No heavy packages (6 play TD drive)

[LakecrestSteeler]

That's because Conner was ready to play in the first quarter and wasn't in synch with the rest of the offense.

What?

Not to derail the gore train, but I wanted to jump in and explain myself.

In the previous post, havoc pointed out that there were a total of 4 runs in our first 4 possessions against the stains. A Rushing Over Possession Average, or ROPA, if you will, so that b2b can keep up. With a ROPA of 1, it showed a lack of commitment to the run, scripted or situational.

My point was that Conner showed up ready to play in the first quarter, and since the rest of the offense doesn't wake up until at least the second quarter, he was out of synch with them and therefore garnered a ROPA of 1, or more simply, minimal touches.

Clear as mud now?

I think Fichtner has admitted as much too, which is a good sign. He thought he probably got away from the run too quickly, they did get down by 2 TDS quick and early. I am paraphrasing, but he felt like he probably could have tried to engage the run philosophy or at the very least not let the abandonment carry over to red zone situations.

I can’t wait for the game to see what they do. It feels like they are ready to present to the world the best 2018 Steeler game yet.

[Thrillsseeker]

Conner and company endangering people as they compete with pure malice is becoming this teams identity. Maddened into irrational spasms of carnage and gore by the smell of fresh blood in the second half leads to the oppositions defensive players being carted off. Defenses are finding themselves in a hellish dungeon of pain, rage, and bitter, unending sorrow. Last weeks game ended with our offense behaving like ravenous wolverines fighting over the putrid deer carcass that was once the Browns defense. That is a team my Dog and I can love.. I say MORE. In a game with stupid rules like Goodell has created you need an offense that snarls and spits like saber-toothed tigers digging their fangs into the flank of a stunned woolly mammoth and bringing it to the ground as it thrashes and howls in pain. Fuck 5 wide, Fichtner has destroyed the pathetic non- QB sneaking finesse dog shit Todd Haley degraded our city with and has emerged with a more terrible, potent, and destructive offense than any of us Leveon Bell hesitating loving boneheads could possibly imagine. Soon we will weep with joy and terror as we pummel New England for the first time ever. Disemboweling may become a penalty. Damnit I mixed suboxone with valium and this is all I came up with? Me thinks me needs to add mushrooms. Oh yeah, now I too have un-shackled this weak, decaying sack of skin and blood and can see this drug induced rant can no longer contain Fichtners power in the Heavy. It is unleashed! Cue side two of Highway to Hell and is it Sunday yet? Wait is that really a day? Sun day? weird

I agree 100%.

The Steelers will treat the rest of the league like a prolapsed anus as we playfully suck in and then push out the bloody, meaty flange of sphincter over and over--each successive push drooping lower and lower to the ground. After a few almost sexual, tease-filled minutes we will introduce the main event: the emergence of a hardened, black, unusually thick turd. Perhaps this one had been stowed away for a week, maybe more, patiently awaiting its birthing. The head is clover shaped and immaculate: a treasure trove of fast food over indulgence mixed with a hint of cinnamon and regret. Emerging like the top of a prairie dog from a grassland burrow, the glorious turd in some ways seems to take a moment to acknowledge the bemusement of its creation, carefully pausing for if but a second as it then slips over the edge of the event horizon, and down the slick prolapsed anus towards the ground. The hardened turd, appropriately much like steel, representing the squad we cheer for: the Pittsburgh Steelers. And the bloody, prolapsed anus that represents the rest of the NFL will have no choice but to admire our glorious sight as we slide right over top of them.

LMMFAO.

I'll have what he's having!

Props to both of these posts. I'd love to know what Strom does for work in the real world and if he has aliases here.

[Obviously]

Lets hope we don't start the game without starting off with a special teams penality.

It's nearly guaranteed. Danny Smith has pictures on Mike Tomlin. I can't think of any other reason why he's employed.

[Legacy User]

Lets hope we don't start the game without starting off with a special teams penality.

It's nearly guaranteed. Danny Smith has pictures on Mike Tomlin. I can't think of any other reason why he's employed.

Steelmann58, you're saying you hope that we start the game with a ST penalty. I assume that is not what you meant to say.

Obvisouly, I assume you do not think it is guaranteed that the Steelers avoid a ST penalty.